Exactly, forward planning is awesome. I wish I had used forward planning when I decided to go on the exploration trip (for the Exploration CG), because now we're having our bathroom done RL, and I won't get any gaming time at all until after the CG finishes. Doh!
SHIP TRANSFER - Way too expensive / Jumping for hours = WASTE of time
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Exactly, forward planning is awesome. I wish I had used forward planning when I decided to go on the exploration trip (for the Exploration CG), because now we're having our bathroom done RL, and I won't get any gaming time at all until after the CG finishes. Doh!
This is exactly what I do with module transfer, and would do with ship transfer.
That said 18mil is ridiculously steep for any ship transfer, costs should be much, much lower AND based on hull cost rather than include the modules. Anything more than a million though is just daft. The delay I think is ok, although would love to be able to move ships without being at the source or destination!
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The travel mechanics are pretty pants though. You just click the same button 400times and watch a 30second loading screen for an hour to get to a system that MIGHT give you something to do. It's not exactly enthralling.
The transfer times are fine because you can always plan for them. But I agree that the costs are way too high. While I can afford to shuttle my lower range ships around within a few hundred light years, I had always looked at ship transfers as a viable way to get a personal fleet out to a distant location like Colonia.
With the current costs, that is simply not possible for most players. The cost of the transfers often exceeds the full value of the ship being moved. And I'm talking about fully upgraded ships! Not the base price for something like a Corvette.
So... I agree with the OP regarding costs. Simply because the most useful application for this feature is stuck behind a HUGE PAY WALL. So much for helping to increase the population out at Jaques.
I had planned to move out there, but once I saw the costs to transfer my fleet, that was the end of that idea.
With the current costs, that is simply not possible for most players. The cost of the transfers often exceeds the full value of the ship being moved. And I'm talking about fully upgraded ships! Not the base price for something like a Corvette.
So... I agree with the OP regarding costs. Simply because the most useful application for this feature is stuck behind a HUGE PAY WALL. So much for helping to increase the population out at Jaques.
I had planned to move out there, but once I saw the costs to transfer my fleet, that was the end of that idea.
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You know what breaks my immersion?? The thought that someone somewhere gets paid 10 millions for a trip that I would need 30 minutes for, while I have to grind half a day for that sum. (not using exploits)
Who does the numbers in elite??? Why not make transfer price jump range/fuel cost dependent? (Bigger ships, bigger fuel consumption, bigger cost, BUT reasonable!).
I really don't get it... They wanted to make ship transfer an awesome gameplay improvement, but noooo for 60mil+ ships the price doesn't justify what you get anymore.
I am really really really disappointed.
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I never thought that the ship transfer mechanic was for some quick action gameplay, I always thought of it as a way to consolidate my fleet to a particular area, well that's what I use it for anyways and the current model works perfectly, I don't see a need for changing it.
The funny thing is, when FD initially said it would be instant, Michael was saying that it was supposed to let us get doing faster. But that has fallen away since Sandro said they reconsidered.
So yes, it is now only for mass fleet relocation (and the odd time when you might want to pull a ship over and don't mind waiting for it).
I've not used it yet. I've used module transfer a couple times. That's been useful (and pretty much essential due to the need to use different systems to upgrade or change modules). But ship transfer is a fringe use feature.
To be fair, engineers has reduced the need for transferring slower ships about. But the current delay definitely prevents the feature from allowing us to get doing faster. Because that is obviously now FD's intent.
Stop us doing faster.
I recently needed to swap my Cutter's 8 class shield for class 6 one to get a room for class 8 cargo rack. I was in 109 Piscium, and my class 8 cargo rack was in CK Arietes, 44Ly away. It would have taken 12 minutes to get the cargo rack over at the station. Instead of waiting, I naturally flew over for my cargo rack.
As it currently is, I haven't used ship or module transfer even once and I don't feel like I will at these rates.
As it currently is, I haven't used ship or module transfer even once and I don't feel like I will at these rates.
Thing I found curious was the 2 mill missions to deliver stiff from colonia, yet the 100 mill cost to move a ship. How do i get in on those prices!
And yeah yeah ship is bigger, but if some one is taking stuff we could lend them our ship.
Or even better we could send the crew who are sitting drinking coffee unless we pew pew
And yeah yeah ship is bigger, but if some one is taking stuff we could lend them our ship.
Or even better we could send the crew who are sitting drinking coffee unless we pew pew
Unfortunately ship transfer is a great feature that has been implemented very poorly. It should help to have more fun in the game, but penalises you with huge costs and wait time simultaneously thereby negating its purpose. They do this with lots of features.
Games have these things called lore and canon which explain in-game mechanics and processes. Amazingly enough your ship is not in fact being transferred by 'the computer' it is supposedly being shipped to your location in a bulk carrier.
See I can also almost always travel to a location faster by flying my ship there than I could using ship transfer. That's why I fly my ship there instead of using ship transfer, thereby removing the 'problem' of how long ship transfers take.
As for jumping for 'hours', if we assume that OP is using the plural form in the usual way, he means a minimum of 120 jumps since that's what you can do in two hours. I'd love to know what journeys he regularly make that require 120+ jumps. Most of my journeys around the bubble are 250-300LY tops, which will be between 8 and 20 jumps depending on the ship I'm in. So about 20 minutes maximum.
However when I moved my home base and had to consolidate 16 ships from three separate locations around the bubble to a single location, the entire process took about 30 minutes. Useful ship transfer is useful.
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It cost me just over 5mill to move a Trutter half way across the bubble, doubt I'll be using this again for anything larger than a Asp. I really thought when the voter's went for a delay that it would be cheaper than this.
How long does it take you to make 5 mill in a Cutter? With all of the credit faucets in the game I don't understand why people complain about the cost.
