The Star Citizen Thread v5

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Viajero

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Wow. I think it is the first time since I follow Star Citizen that I have seen its subreddit first page practically full top to bottom of negative threads.
 
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Poor devs caught up in that, they don't deserve the embarrassment of suffering Robert's hubris and idiocy. If they've got any sense however they'll be handing out CVs on Monday morning and putting 'Travelling holiday' where it reads 'Star Citizen'.

Good Devs can shrug off mismanagement without too much trouble :)
 
Maybe people are starting to realize there are some... ehm issues with the development?

I guess some are slower than others.
However there's always going to be people still supportive of CIG no matter what.
hey some people even responded to backers saying they won't buy any more ships by saying they'll buy even more to make up for the people not buying anymore :D

Thankfully special people like this exist so hopefully we'll get lots more moments of gaming development brilliance from CIG during the next years :)
 
I guess some are slower than others.
However there's always going to be people still supportive of CIG no matter what.
hey some people even responded to backers saying they won't buy any more ships by saying they'll buy even more to make up for the people not buying anymore :D

Thankfully special people like this exist so hopefully we'll get lots more moments of gaming development brilliance from CIG during the next years :)

Looking at Reddit right now it's interesting that the negative stuff seems to hugely outweigh the everything is normal/good crowd.

But then it's hardly surprising given the no show earlier in the year followed by three very public non events.
 

That is a beautiful edit.

Considering how many years CIG have had to refine their broadcasting skills, all of the live events and marketing videos, hours of Chris Roberts talking about what's going to be in the game all of those next great star-ship episodes...this is very strange.

I've organised a few live stream events myself, it is tricky and it does take planning but it's generally non-expensive. It doesn't need a massive budget. I can see that organizing footage of two teams playing a network game in two separate countries can easily go very wrong - but YouTube & Twitch are crammed with such events daily and often streamed on shoe-string budgets while still looking fairly solid in production value.

I wonder if they have lost some key talent responsible for putting together previous streams, or if they are now in such a confusing development stream they simply don't have the time to put something like this together anymore.

Isn't this just what happened last Christmas when we watched CR playing his own game?
 
I guess some are slower than others.

That is undoubtedly the case, but also not everyone follows Star Citizen since 2012. If you've been drawn in a year ago by tales of the seemless first person universe alpha of Star Citizen, with the unprecedented scope and whatnot (CIG can sell by means of fancy screenshots or short tech demo videos!), see their webpage with all the glamorous ships and hear tales of not yet delusioned frieds who are backers? You're perspective will be a totally different one compared to people who've been hoping to see Star Marine more than a year ago, hoped for the flight model to be nailed after Arnea Commander's release or hoped that Squadron 42 was in full production and polish mode after the "Morrow Tour" was shown and some talking actor heads implied production of the cutscenes was going well.

Some people won't get suspicious unless they've experienced the full extend of CIG's and Roberts' eyewash first hand (Edit: or one too many times, while also being milked for dough).
 
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OMG I feel so sorry for them. People with no intention to earn money do their streams better than this. Ouch.

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I guess some are slower than others.
However there's always going to be people still supportive of CIG no matter what.
hey some people even responded to backers saying they won't buy any more ships by saying they'll buy even more to make up for the people not buying anymore :D

Thankfully special people like this exist so hopefully we'll get lots more moments of gaming development brilliance from CIG during the next years :)

You will have to watch how SC represents their videos on Youtube to understand why people still give them money and why they are slow to catch up.

Because those videos are edited/labeled/propped up by grey market army which is just colossal snake oil fire sale. And they keep luring in newbies. Pyramid Chris style.
 
I didn't expect a crappy stream to be the event that turned so many backers against the game, but it appears that might be the case.

Check out the funding graph - they've made less than $200,000 from this one and I think that is what we can only call a catastrophic collapse.....

The tide has turned.

Most spectacularly this thread retrieved from the Google Webcache with the title "Announcing New Ships to Buy Shouldn't Be Celebrated" and 4589 upvotes has magically disappeared which is just full of people who've had enough.

Fun week in the office at RSI/CIG i think.
 
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They changed the TOS from what those who pledged early, so that they no longer mentioned if the game is not presented within 18 months they will refund your pledge. I applied earlier this year but they refused. Apparently by law they needed to abide by the TOS that was in operation when I pledged. So the threat of a small claims court action got them rethinking their legal obligations so now they are refunding my pledge.

You have to do what is right for you but an increasing number of pledgers are asking for refunds so it could be time to pull the plug if they let you.

I personally don't think the game with ever be complete enough to make it to the market. Oh yes and they are sitting at $138,000,000 pledged.It is in the top four costs of game development and is about to overtake GTA5
 
They changed the TOS from what those who pledged early, so that they no longer mentioned if the game is not presented within 18 months they will refund your pledge. I applied earlier this year but they refused. Apparently by law they needed to abide by the TOS that was in operation when I pledged. So the threat of a small claims court action got them rethinking their legal obligations so now they are refunding my pledge.

You have to do what is right for you but an increasing number of pledgers are asking for refunds so it could be time to pull the plug if they let you.

I personally don't think the game with ever be complete enough to make it to the market. Oh yes and they are sitting at $138,000,000 pledged.It is in the top four costs of game development and is about to overtake GTA5

That does seem to be the position on pre ToS change accounts - they will still try and guilt you into staying but if you push it they cough up.
 
I love the reddit comments: "This makes CIG look incompetent!" Pssst!...That's because they are!

The tide has turned.

Naw, you underestimate the resilience of SC backers. After the Citizencon disaster the usual suspects faded from this forum to lick their wounds. It took less than a month for them to be back big talking about the imminent 2.6 release and how great it would be when the Dec stream rolled around. They're easily impressed.
 
Is anyone actually playing whatever it is that they have or haven't just released?

Now CR has said they aren't going to be doing "a slick demo/vertical slice" that would seem to herald a period of further prolonged waffle about progress and speculation with not much going on.

It really does look like they are much further behind than even the pessimists believed.

With the latest funding drive tanking somewhat - what next?
 
I love the reddit comments: "This makes CIG look incompetent!" Pssst!...That's because they are!



Naw, you underestimate the resilience of SC backers. After the Citizencon disaster the usual suspects faded from this forum to lick their wounds. It took less than a month for them to be back big talking about the imminent 2.6 release and how great it would be when the Dec stream rolled around. They're easily impressed.

Yes - I think it's still too early to call a full turn of the tide - but I'd say it looks nearer to that point of no return than it ever has done so far.

Of course the die hard supporters will always remain but if it carries on like this they will simply be washed away by the masses.

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The best comments are the backers fuming that CIG gave DS fuel for months of more ranting.
They're obsessed over him :D

Yes - never mind what the state of the project is - the worst possible thing is that Derek gets to point and laugh even more and more people start to think he's right!

:D
 
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