The Star Citizen Thread v5

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Ok lets for give the delays. One thing I cannot forgive is the boring as hell mechanics. Bugs will get squashed, Alpha and all that, we know and can live with them till release. The basic things are yawn worthy. one thing Ed had from the get go was it was fun to just fly about. SC is a sleep aid in that respect.
 
Well CR did release their internal development schedule to answer the management concerns. I think you are running away with my previous post about the unknown scope of how big the game will be, perhaps thats my fault. The fact is that CIG has a plan for what they want to achieve but they are also learning as they go and they get better with each update, that doesnt mean that progress is not being made (see my previous 2012 vs 2016 video), its just not being made at the speed of the minority wants and funding for each ships sell proves that the majority wants only the best from the game. Only time will tell that story tho.

The schedule was released on November 18th this year (IIRC), with the claimed release of 2.6 at 8th of December, 18 days. Current schedule claims 2.6 will be released on 22th of December, so the development time doubled, and that's when the original estimate was on scale of a little more than two weeks. Do you believe that developers whose estimates are so inaccurate are competent enough to pull off what they have promised?
 
The schedule was released on November 18th this year (IIRC), with the claimed release of 2.6 at 8th of December, 18 days. Current schedule claims 2.6 will be released on 22th of December, so the development time doubled, and that's when the original estimate was on scale of a little more than two weeks. Do you believe that developers whose estimates are so inaccurate are competent enough to pull off what they have promised?

I think the game that I have played up to this point shows me that what CR originally pitch is very very close. As far as development schedule slips, game delays happen with many many AAA games, enough so that Sony plans to take a stance against delays on their system starting sometime in 2017. I dont work in game development so I honestly dont know, but I have never seen the internal schedeule for a AAA game either, maybe someone with that knowledge would be better suited to answer that question?

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And two years and a hundred million dollars later - there is still nothing :D

Alpha 2.6?
 
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And just how much fun are you having with that ;)

Its really good, I love the improved UI and new charcater models. The animations are greatly improved but grenades are a bit OP right now. The graphics have been upgraded and level design keeps getting better. lighting in the game is much better. The new flight model causes more close range engagement but missiles are supper OP.
 
Wall of honest text and my normal bracket abuse, sorry.

I see these people going on about "scope", "AAA" and all I see are buzzwords being used constantly during the entirety of the life of the SC project as excuses for failure.

Alpha 2.6 adds a barebones and very uninteresting, even generic but without as many features/mechanics, first person shooter single arena 'mode' where you have to manually restart the client after every match, but the flying around bit has to be disabled to use it (these things are supposed to work concurrently no?). That is not worth a single pat on the back nor an utterance of praise as it's easily the least technically demanding thing they could've made within the constraints of Cryengine (it's literally purpose built for fps creation). Still no S42 footage? Well they were 'days away' from having what was described as a decent segment of it ready to show off at the last event they had, but all of a sudden they state that it was cancelled? That effort if there actually was any is now wasted, along with the money spent making it (staff wages/office expenses/production costs), that's technically misappropriation of public funds and should be dealt with accordingly.

140 million dollars and still need more? It's a good job they don't have a publisher as the management would have changed hands a good while before now even without yesterdays 'just another ship sale', but the stream and content within made it quite clear that this is now no longer about making a game and more about squeezing as much money as possible from people before the inevitable happens. It's gone well beyond being a going concern in my eyes as a businessman and now looks all kinds of scummy. I personally feel that people who are still trying to gain traction with missplaced hype (seriously, after yesterday it's insulting) and faux excitement need to take a step back and gain some wider perspective other than "anything CR touches is perfect and I must make sure everyone else thinks the same, squueeeee!!".

Saw all this coming a few years ago, got jeered and shouted down on the rsi forums for even thinking about the possibility that what they were doing was technically too expensive (both in money and in dev time) and complicated, one person even suggested I buy another ship so that I would somehow suddenly not have doubts (join us in our sunk cost fallacy bath). I'm glad I didn't.
 
Its really good, I love the improved UI and new charcater models. The animations are greatly improved but grenades are a bit OP right now. The graphics have been upgraded and level design keeps getting better. lighting in the game is much better. The new flight model causes more close range engagement but missiles are supper OP.

All these flashy ships are just like lures to catch the fish. They sell the promise of a tasty meal but instead the fish is devoured itself. You just fell for the oldest con job, practiced since the dawn of civilisation just dressed in new clothing. No different than offering shiny trinkets to the natives while screwing them backwards.
 
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Well being that the ships play the biggest part in the game, everytime they finish a new ship its always bigger and better then its concept. Since thats plays such a big part in the game I guess you can say its growing all the time.
Sorry but the ship means nothing if you have nothing to do. They can add 500 ships, it wouldn't matter at all. Unless they add the basic gameplay mechanics, there is no need for more ships. The gameplay, if we can call it that, in the PU will be exactly the same.

There is no point whatsoever in adding more ships without any game mechanics for it.

Simple as that, more ships are not a sign of progress. Not in this moment, not in this stage of development.
 
The schedule was released on November 18th this year (IIRC), with the claimed release of 2.6 at 8th of December, 18 days. Current schedule claims 2.6 will be released on 22th of December, so the development time doubled, and that's when the original estimate was on scale of a little more than two weeks. Do you believe that developers whose estimates are so inaccurate are competent enough to pull off what they have promised?

That was even the updated timeline following the presentation a bit earlier. At that time it was expected to be in within few weeks max. They missed their schedule by 100% after missing their schedule by another 100+%, which came after missing their schedule by more than a year. And thats just SM. But I am sure that if they get it right now, some whales will see it as a success of some kind...
 
Sorry but the ship means nothing if you have nothing to do. They can add 500 ships, it wouldn't matter at all. Unless they add the basic gameplay mechanics, there is no need for more ships. The gameplay, if we can call it that, in the PU will be exactly the same.

There is no point whatsoever in adding more ships without any game mechanics for it.

Simple as that, more ships are not a sign of progress. Not in this moment, not in this stage of development.

I'll have to just +1 Rep you in text as "you must spread some rep around before giving it to Rolan again". :)

I really ought to log in more here.
 
That was even the updated timeline following the presentation a bit earlier. At that time it was expected to be in within few weeks max. They missed their schedule by 100% after missing their schedule by another 100+%, which came after missing their schedule by more than a year. And thats just SM. But I am sure that if they get it right now, some whales will see it as a success of some kind...

I guess purchasing a Vanduul blade today was for in the sake of progress, 2.6 and onward.
 
I guess purchasing a Vanduul blade today was for in the sake of progress, 2.6 and onward.

Where in the RSI store did you buy it from?

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Oops - that's not a Blade - sorry - but that doesn't show up in the store either.
 
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