Lmao what does that tell you truly?
I bet if all the people playing in groups had open pve to play in no one would spend hours relogging to meet due to "bad instancing".
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Frontier. Please make a PVE mode to this game.
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Lmao what does that tell you truly?
I bet if all the people playing in groups had open pve to play in no one would spend hours relogging to meet due to "bad instancing".
Open doesn't place you in a pool of 20k players and only ever allow you to meet that group of players. That it the limitation which is being referred to, not the general issues with instancing.
You seem to be suffering difficulties in reading comprehension, the current state of PvP is the way it is because of the lack of attention FDev gave on the subject, now that they are changing and hopefully putting out a sensible crime and punishment system, PvP will have more appeal.
If you want to gauge everything strictly by money, then we might as well focus all dev attention on a singular most popular mechanic in the game and shut everything else down. That should do well for profit margins (sarcasm).
Lol, just 20k? Goodness, we relloged for an hour that night and barely saw 10 different commanders in a busy CG system, now I want to join Mobius group, better luck meeting commanders maybe
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I'd say it's hard even in CGs sometimes..
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Lol, this is probably not the time to point out we recorded making 1bln in 5 hours today
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My reading comprehension is fine, yours however is mostly just skewed to how you want to force others to play because you know I am right.
I will even go one step further and say even FDEV, metrics anyone, know what I say is true which is why there is some resistance right now to an open pve mode or them making group sizes "unlimited".
You keep saying the current state of pvp is "insert strawman here" when it's really the way it is because no one ever wanted "Eve in cockpits" when they backed this game.
Right now I could claim the current state of pve is bleh but should I blame those of you that like pvp?
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Lol, just 20k? Goodness, we relloged for an hour that night and barely saw 10 different commanders in a busy CG system, now I want to join Mobius group, better luck meeting commanders maybe
Want to swap then? Open becomes PvE only, and everybody who wants PvP can get together in a private group.
You probably won't even need more than one group, so there's another plus
Well, this made me laugh, so I'll give you credits for the humor. You do realize that sentence can be directly typed back to you, right? I hope so.
There is little resistance to anything, Fdevs are infamous of doing whatever they like, unless you haven't been following what they're doing.
I'm certain that you cannot speak for everyone. As for why the state of PvP is the way it is today, unless you've been blind to the development process of this game and its changes through the years, it's blatantly obvious that it lacked thorough functionality and feature just as much as PvE lacked certain important features, and both are being reinforced currently under the developers' supervision, there is no denying that. There is also no question that PvP lacked more important features than PvE did, because it has a higher demand of complexity.
I don't know why would you want to claim that but the implication of that question is somehow you assume I blame PvE development for the lack of PvP features, which is, when simply put, Asinine
I've stated from the very beginning that this is a sandbox, so stop ostracizing, and I stand by that.
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How else will you guys know that you're wrong then?
We're yet to be.convinced.
Mate go learn some of the common mechanics of the game as you clearly don't know enough to have any kind of input that could be considered intelligent.
Maybe then I will consider replying more to you.
Which common mechanics? I covered a bunch of them on my ED education YT channel, feel free to subscribe
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Everyones already passed that, busy enjoying a wonderful game, and stuff, you should try it sometimes
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You're right it's a sandbox that should stop ostracizing people that want to pve and putting them in a small "prison space" but I digress...
I said that because it's pretty clear in almost every pvp thread you guys blame pvers for the lack of "decent pvp" or "pvp mechanics", you guys are the one's trying to ostracize a certain group and then have the gall to try and claim we are doing that.
As I have said before and will repeat...we have no need to do that to you pvpers thus my strawman comment.
Asinine indeed, glad you can see it!
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You're right it's a sandbox that should stop ostracizing people that want to pve and putting them in a small "prison space" but I digress...
No actually, that is not digressing, that is strawman, unless you can prove that I ostracized people that want to PvE.
Ah, broad brush Wednesday, how lovely. Has it dawned on you that stereotyping is a terrible idea? Now that you ran out of arguments, is sterotyping the only thing left that you can pull? Pathetic.
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...-an-Analysis-on-Professions-and-Modes-of-Play
Now this is called digressing, or rather red herring.
You cannot speak for all PvE players, and you are imagining things that aren't there to fill in your hollow argument.
For everything you accuse me of here I can turn right around and say to you, see how that goes?
You can't speak your opinions in a certain way then tell someone else they can't reply or speak to you in the same way simply because their opinion is different!
Your verbal gymnastic are boring and you fool no one with them...well maybe a few here are impressed...lol
Nice try though.
Oh you finally caught on? Time to start to look at evidence finally instead of empty words? Good good.
Say something substantial or don't say it at all, anyone can appeal to freedom of speech, well, most can.
Oh please, just admit you have no further valid arguments and move on, it's apparent that you're getting desperate.
I didn't have to catch on to anything, it's one of your goto's and so very very obvious.
I have been, you just haven't been liking what I have to say so have been trying to use verbal gymnastics to make yourself look good while trying to make my opinions which are based in evidence as much as yours are look bad/silly etc.
Again... do the same yourself.
You need to get a refund on your crystal ball, it's defective and not reading my moods at all!
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Well, then start using reason and evidence instead of ad hominem, maybe that will work better.
I have been, you just haven't been liking what I have to say so have been trying to use verbal gymnastics to make yourself look good while trying to make my opinions which are based in evidence as much as yours are.
Oh please, another set of empty sentence, try something new.
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Fyi, I'm on vacation currently and bored out of my mind while reading a textbook, your comments are quite amusing to read, so please stay up as long as you can, I certainly don't mind the distraction.
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To be completely honest I think that there should be a PvE mode.
Or could be, to be more precise, theoretically.
A big problem is that ED's population is not large enough to support 5 modes.
One might argue that it can barely support 1 mode.
But the biggest problem hands down is the whining, and badgering, and lack of reason these people provide.
99% of the time it boils down to "i just started playing the game, have no idea where to go or what to do, whats this i got attacked? THE WORLD MUST CHANGE, TO ACCOMODATE MEEEEEEE. Whats that? I should learn to defend myself by studying the game and its mechanics? Pfffff no lol
Or could be, to be more precise, theoretically.
A big problem is that ED's population is not large enough to support 5 modes.
One might argue that it can barely support 1 mode.
But the biggest problem hands down is the whining, and badgering, and lack of reason these people provide.
99% of the time it boils down to "i just started playing the game, have no idea where to go or what to do, whats this i got attacked? THE WORLD MUST CHANGE, TO ACCOMODATE MEEEEEEE. Whats that? I should learn to defend myself by studying the game and its mechanics? Pfffff no lol
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Anyway, the way I look at it, like the proposal I wrote, I want to see Open morphed into a space that accommodates both PvP and PvE reasonably that mixes in crime and punishment to further balance out the two. It's largely due to the fact that I understand ED's population isn't as massive as other MMOs.
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