Frontier. Please make a PVE mode to this game.

What are you talking about , OPEN mode has similar limits, thats why you see 10 ships near the alien derelict and not 7000 or whatever.

Also if you actually played open u'd know how bad instancing is in open, we were hunting griefers few nights ago in CG , and spend hours reloging before we even got matched with any in SC, lol

Lmao what does that tell you truly?

I bet if all the people playing in groups had open pve to play in no one would spend hours relogging to meet due to "bad instancing".
 
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What are you talking about , OPEN mode has similar limits, thats why you see 10 ships near the alien derelict and not 7000 or whatever.

Also if you actually played open u'd know how bad instancing is in open, we were hunting griefers few nights ago in CG , and spend hours reloging before we even got matched with any in SC, lol

Open doesn't place you in a pool of 20k players and only ever allow you to meet that group of players. That it the limitation which is being referred to, not the general issues with instancing.
 
First of all, not every PvP player beelines for another player. Second of all, it makes perfect sense for a pilots' federation pilot to go specifically after another one if it is intended by the aggressor due to profit difference or challenge difference. It's that it isn't checked properly by crime and punishment that's leaving a bad taste in most people's mouth when they are targeted, which is reasonable.

*gasp!* a voice of reason!

Quick, get the holy water!


:D
 
Where is all this pvp as in constant harrassment you are talking about happening? I'm almost always looking for pvp but hardly ever even find another cmdr outside of CGs...
 
Hogwash.

You and I both know Fdev can't live with only pvp players, you are just too few. Which is why you and your few have the agenda of trying to force people not interested in pvp, to force people that want a open pve mode to rather play by your vision.

We don't need to ostracize anyone, you all can do that yourselves.

I challenge FDEV to make an open pve, hell I would even be okay if it was on different servers so the moaning about affecting the BGS would be shut up, and let it run in competition to the open pvp we presently have.

Let them take metrics then and see where the money and true population lies and then let them give accordingly.

You seem to be suffering difficulties in reading comprehension, the current state of PvP is the way it is because of the lack of attention FDev gave on the subject, now that they are changing and hopefully putting out a sensible crime and punishment system, PvP will have more appeal.

If you want to gauge everything strictly by money, then we might as well focus all dev attention on a singular most popular mechanic in the game and shut everything else down. That should do well for profit margins (sarcasm).
 
Open doesn't place you in a pool of 20k players and only ever allow you to meet that group of players. That it the limitation which is being referred to, not the general issues with instancing.

Lol, just 20k? Goodness, we relloged for an hour that night and barely saw 10 different commanders in a busy CG system, now I want to join Mobius group, better luck meeting commanders maybe :D

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Where is all this pvp as in constant harrassment you are talking about happening? I'm almost always looking for pvp but hardly ever even find another cmdr outside of CGs...

I'd say it's hard even in CGs sometimes..

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You seem to be suffering difficulties in reading comprehension, the current state of PvP is the way it is because of the lack of attention FDev gave on the subject, now that they are changing and hopefully putting out a sensible crime and punishment system, PvP will have more appeal.

If you want to gauge everything strictly by money, then we might as well focus all dev attention on a singular most popular mechanic in the game and shut everything else down. That should do well for profit margins (sarcasm).

Lol, this is probably not the time to point out we recorded making 1bln in 5 hours today :D
 
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You seem to be suffering difficulties in reading comprehension, the current state of PvP is the way it is because of the lack of attention FDev gave on the subject, now that they are changing and hopefully putting out a sensible crime and punishment system, PvP will have more appeal.

If you want to gauge everything strictly by money, then we might as well focus all dev attention on a singular most popular mechanic in the game and shut everything else down. That should do well for profit margins (sarcasm).

My reading comprehension is fine, yours however is mostly just skewed to how you want to force others to play because you know I am right.

I will even go one step further and say even FDEV, metrics anyone, know what I say is true which is why there is some resistance right now to an open pve mode or them making group sizes "unlimited".

You keep saying the current state of pvp is "insert strawman here" when it's really the way it is because no one ever wanted "Eve in cockpits" when they backed this game.

Right now I could claim the current state of pve is bleh but should I blame those of you that like pvp?
 
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My reading comprehension is fine, yours however is mostly just skewed to how you want to force others to play because you know I am right.

Well, this made me laugh, so I'll give you credits for the humor. You do realize that sentence can be directly typed back to you, right? I hope so.

I will even go one step further and say even FDEV, metrics anyone, know what I say is true which is why there is some resistance right now to an open pve mode or them making group sizes "unlimited".

There is little resistance to anything, Fdevs are infamous of doing whatever they like, unless you haven't been following what they're doing.

You keep saying the current state of pvp is "insert strawman here" when it's really the way it is because no one ever wanted "Eve in cockpits" when they backed this game.

I'm certain that you cannot speak for everyone. As for why the state of PvP is the way it is today, unless you've been blind to the development process of this game and its changes through the years, it's blatantly obvious that it lacked thorough functionality and feature just as much as PvE lacked certain important features, and both are being reinforced currently under the developers' supervision, there is no denying that. There is also no question that PvP lacked more important features than PvE did, because it has a higher demand of complexity.

Right now I could claim the current state of pve is bleh but should I blame those of you that like pvp?
I don't know why would you want to claim that but the implication of that question is somehow you assume I blame PvE development for the lack of PvP features, which is, when simply put, Asinine

I've stated from the very beginning that this is a sandbox, so stop ostracizing, and I stand by that.
 
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Mate go learn some of the common mechanics of the game as you clearly don't know enough to have any kind of input that could be considered intelligent.

Maybe then I will consider replying more to you. ;)

Which common mechanics? I covered a bunch of them on my ED education YT channel, feel free to subscribe

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We're yet to be.convinced.

Everyones already passed that, busy enjoying a wonderful game, and stuff, you should try it sometimes
 
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I don't know why would you want to claim that but the implication of that question is somehow you assume I blame PvE development for the lack of PvP features, which is, when simply put, Asinine

I've stated from the very beginning that this is a sandbox, so stop ostracizing, and I stand by that.

You're right it's a sandbox that should stop ostracizing people that want to pve and putting them in a small "prison space" but I digress... ;)

I said that because it's pretty clear in almost every pvp thread you guys blame pvers for the lack of "decent pvp" or "pvp mechanics", you guys are the one's trying to ostracize a certain group and then have the gall to try and claim we are doing that.

As I have said before and will repeat...we have no need to do that to you pvpers thus my strawman comment.

Asinine indeed, glad you can see it! ;)
 
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You're right it's a sandbox that should stop ostracizing people that want to pve and putting them in a small "prison space" but I digress... ;)

No actually, that is not digressing, that is strawman, unless you can prove that I ostracized people that want to PvE.

I said that because it's pretty clear in almost every pvp thread you guys blame pvers for the lack of "decent pvp" or "pvp mechanics", you guys are the one trying to ostracize a certain group and then have the gall to try and claim we are doing that.

Ah, broad brush Wednesday, how lovely. Has it dawned on you that stereotyping is a terrible idea? Now that you ran out of arguments, is sterotyping the only thing left that you can pull? Pathetic.

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...-an-Analysis-on-Professions-and-Modes-of-Play

As I have said before and will repeat...we have no need to do that to you pvpers thus my strawman comment.

Now this is called digressing, or rather red herring.

You cannot speak for all PvE players, and you are imagining things that aren't there to fill in your hollow argument.
 
No actually, that is not digressing, that is strawman, unless you can prove that I ostracized people that want to PvE.



Ah, broad brush Wednesday, how lovely. Has it dawned on you that stereotyping is a terrible idea? Now that you ran out of arguments, is sterotyping the only thing left that you can pull? Pathetic.

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...-an-Analysis-on-Professions-and-Modes-of-Play



Now this is called digressing, or rather red herring.

You cannot speak for all PvE players, and you are imagining things that aren't there to fill in your hollow argument.

For everything you accuse me of here I can turn right around and say to you, see how that goes?

You can't speak your opinions in a certain way then tell someone else they can't reply or speak to you in the same way simply because their opinion is different!

Your verbal gymnastic are boring and you fool no one with them...well maybe a few here are impressed...lol

Nice try though.
 
For everything you accuse me of here I can turn right around and say to you, see how that goes?

Oh you finally caught on? Time to start to look at evidence finally instead of empty words? Good good.

You can't speak your opinions in a certain way then tell someone else they can't reply or speak to you in the same way simply because their opinion is different!

Say something substantial or don't say it at all, anyone can appeal to freedom of speech, well, most can.

Your verbal gymnastic are boring and you fool no one with them...well maybe a few here are impressed...lol

Nice try though.

Oh please, just admit you have no further valid arguments and move on, it's apparent that you're getting desperate.
 
Oh you finally caught on? Time to start to look at evidence finally instead of empty words? Good good.



Say something substantial or don't say it at all, anyone can appeal to freedom of speech, well, most can.



Oh please, just admit you have no further valid arguments and move on, it's apparent that you're getting desperate.

I didn't have to catch on to anything, it's one of your goto's and so very very obvious.

I have been, you just haven't been liking what I have to say so have been trying to use verbal gymnastics to make yourself look good while trying to make my opinions which are based in evidence as much as yours are look bad/silly etc. ;)

Again... do the same yourself.

You need to get a refund on your crystal ball, it's defective and not reading my moods at all!
 
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I didn't have to catch on to anything, it's one of your goto's and so very very obvious.

Well, then start using reason and evidence instead of ad hominem, maybe that will work better.

I have been, you just haven't been liking what I have to say so have been trying to use verbal gymnastics to make yourself look good while trying to make my opinions which are based in evidence as much as yours are. ;)

Oh please, another set of empty sentence, try something new.

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Fyi, I'm on vacation currently and bored out of my mind while reading a textbook, your comments are quite amusing to read, so please stay up as long as you can, I certainly don't mind the distraction.
 
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To be completely honest I think that there should be a PvE mode.

Or could be, to be more precise, theoretically.

A big problem is that ED's population is not large enough to support 5 modes.

One might argue that it can barely support 1 mode.

But the biggest problem hands down is the whining, and badgering, and lack of reason these people provide.

99% of the time it boils down to "i just started playing the game, have no idea where to go or what to do, whats this i got attacked? THE WORLD MUST CHANGE, TO ACCOMODATE MEEEEEEE. Whats that? I should learn to defend myself by studying the game and its mechanics? Pfffff no lol
 
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To be completely honest I think that there should be a PvE mode.

Or couls be, to be more precise, theoretically.

A big problem is that ED's population is not large enough to support 5 modes.

One might argue that it can barely support 1 mode.

But the biggest problem hands down is the whining, and badgering, and lack of reason these people provide.

99% of the time it boils down to "i just started playing the game, have no idea where to go or what to do, whats this i got attacked? THE WORLD MUST CHANGE, TO ACCOMODATE MEEEEEEE. Whats that? I should learn to defend myself by studying the game and its mechanics? Pffff, fk that, stop oppresing me!"



Anyway, the way I look at it, like the proposal I wrote, I want to see Open morphed into a space that accommodates both PvP and PvE reasonably that mixes in crime and punishment to further balance out the two. It's largely due to the fact that I understand ED's population isn't as massive as other MMOs.
 
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