Please report harassment and bullying in game - it's AGAINST the EULA

[lenna]

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NPC in-game behaviours and activities are generally irrelevant to the overall issues surrounding the legitimacy of accusations of harassment/bullying of players by other players.

It does not matter if you think it is or not, overall the principle does apply in the context of on-line games. Even in real world combat the armed forces and governments are expected to abide by the Geneva Convention. In ED, the EULA is comparable to that.

 

[Enderby]

No one cares about the EULA!

 

[Sole Hunter]

http://i.imgsafe.org/d3187b697c.jpg

Careful, your nose will be longer than my Anaconda at this rate.

Seriously though, I thought you'd be delighted with a post which is exhorting players to refrain from combat logging if they feel they're being targeted? Wow this PVP is complicated stuff.

I just think it's a silly thread... what is it supposed to accomplish? we've been discussing combat logging for nearly 2 years! He's trying to start a debate on the subject or create more polymic? or maybe OP got a warning from frontier for combat logging and he's trying to educate us?

also the rules are on the frontpage....

 

[Cryptic God]

H e is right if u dont like being ganked by players or npcs play in solo play .

 

[tony123]

No one cares about the EULA!

Lol, too true, I broken so many EULA rules over the year`s, the EULA police still haven`t come knocking on my door :-D

 

[Kir Nalto]

Rootsrat I fully agree with you, but writing in this forum is really pointless...

PS. I can't give you rep anymore

 

[lenna]

No one cares about the EULA!

Whether individuals care about it or not, if a given player falls foul of it FD can hold them accountable.

I would expect FD to warn the accused in at least some first offence instances (if found guilty), but they would be well with-in their rights to shadow ban the accused (presumably making them "invisibly" play Solo mode even if they chose Open) even if it is the first offence (presumably only if the offence is deemed severe enough though).

 

[Enderby]

Haven't you got better things to worry about?

 

[Heavenly-Hammer]

in the context of a game like Elite KOS (Kill On Sight) behaviour with no legitimate in-game cause to do so could be construed as a form of harassment or bullying.

LOL, show me the receipts dude.

Your existence is an in-game cause. The question should be not whether a player can kill you, but whether it is worth it for him to do so. The problem in the game is we have no C&P so there is no consequence for his decision. That is the problem; not one's ability to kill another. And it certainly isn't a ToS issue. Get a grip. You saying it "for ages" doesn't make it more correct. It just means you continue to hold onto poorly conceived ideals about the game.

Again, unless someone is actually following you around from system to system and killing you (specifically you) or are going above and beyond in comms, you're not being bullied or harassed. If you keep jumping into a system trying to get to a port and you keep getting interdicted, you're not being bullied or harassed. Maybe you need to stop running head-long into that brick wall. Find a way around it, wait them out (come back later) or go to any of the other thousand ports you can dock in.

 

[lenna]

Haven't you got better things to worry about?

Haven't you?

 

[Enderby]

Nice one.

 

[Lateralus]

Remember commanders, the free giveaway with every unnecessary report submitted:

[video=youtube_share;W7Ne9q2nbpM]https://youtu.be/W7Ne9q2nbpM[/video]

 

[lenna]

Your existence is an in-game cause.

Ermm... not a good enough reason (regardless of who the "You" in your post is referring to).

 

[vrseven]

H e is right if u dont like being ganked by players or npcs play in solo play .

I dont think we are playing the same Elite Dangerous game? I think you meant to say CQC mode, there are no players or NPCs there.

 

[Heavenly-Hammer]

Ermm... not a good enough reason (regardless of who the "You" in your post is referring to).

It most certainly is. The burden of proof is on you to prove it isn't, given it has been a thing for years.

 

[JetsonRING]

"Harassment" is defined as behavior that is both repeated and unwanted.

Nobody wants their barely-there cargo-fitted ship to get "blowed up" by some super-powered tween-er in a fully engineered, A-rated, dedicated-combat fitted ship BUT! It's going to happen, repeatedly, because they can and FDev isn't doing anything obvious about it.

But most are probably not getting blown up over and over again by the same CMDR, which would constitute harassment. I do not think I have ever been griefed, ganked, or blown up in honest combat by the same CMDR twice in the 6 months I have been playing ED so IMO your point about harassment is probably for the most part, invalid.

 

[Windscreen Smudge]

Ermm... not a good enough reason (regardless of who the "You" in your post is referring to).

Sorry, but he's right. If you log in, you're a target.

That's your purpose in the game, whether it's for the players or the NPC's, you are there to be attacked. The game is heavily combat oriented no matter what illusions you have painted for yourself.

Every entity in the ED universe is there to be shot at for various reasons.

 

[Heavenly-Hammer]

"Harassment" is defined as behavior that is both repeated and unwanted.

Nobody wants their barely-there cargo-fitted ship to get "blowed up" by some super-powered tween-er in a fully engineered, A-rated, dedicated-combat fitted ship BUT! It's going to happen, repeatedly, because they can and FDev isn't doing anything obvious about it.

But most are probably not getting blown up over and over again by the same CMDR, which would constitute harassment. I do not think I have ever been griefed, ganked, or blown up in honest combat by the same CMDR twice in the 6 months I have been playing ED so IMO your point about harassment is probably for the most part, invalid.

Here, have some rep for common sense and perspective.

 

[vrseven]

"Harassment" is defined as behavior that is both repeated and unwanted.

Nobody wants their barely-there cargo-fitted ship to get "blowed up" by some super-powered tween-er in a fully engineered, A-rated, dedicated-combat fitted ship BUT! It's going to happen, repeatedly, because they can and FDev isn't doing anything obvious about it.

But most are probably not getting blown up over and over again by the same CMDR, which would constitute harassment. I do not think I have ever been griefed, ganked, or blown up in honest combat by the same CMDR twice in the 6 months I have been playing ED so IMO your point about harassment is probably for the most part, invalid.

And when a NPC repeatedly chases you from system to system and it is an unwanted pursuit, what then? These threads are ridiculous and childish, beyond childish.

 

[jasonbarron]

LOL, show me the receipts dude.

Your existence is an in-game cause. The question should be not whether a player can kill you, but whether it is worth it for him to do so. The problem in the game is we have no C&P so there is no consequence for his decision. That is the problem; not one's ability to kill another. And it certainly isn't a ToS issue. Get a grip. You saying it "for ages" doesn't make it more correct. It just means you continue to hold onto poorly conceived ideals about the game.

Again, unless someone is actually following you around from system to system and killing you (specifically you) or are going above and beyond in comms, you're not being bullied or harassed. If you keep jumping into a system trying to get to a port and you keep getting interdicted, you're not being bullied or harassed. Maybe you need to stop running head-long into that brick wall. Find a way around it, wait them out (come back later) or go to any of the other thousand ports you can dock in.

You just said it better than I could. If you are being followed from system to system, I'll buy that as a possible act of griefing. If you're coming into a CG and being blown up repeatedly, well, thems the breaks. CG's are well known choke points, as are engineering bases and get rich quick systems, and player death squads have every legitimate reason to operate there and to send you back to the rebuy screen as many times as you're willing to keep sticking your head up. Just admiring the pretty sparkly lights of your explosion is more than a good enough reason.

What I would give for some leadership on this forum that didn't actually perpetuate the delicate flower mentality. Also, less delicate flower mentality on this forum would be nice, too.