That's pretty new!
Never seen a settlement like this before!
Well done CMDR!
Indeed. Me neither. Never hyperdicted so far but not that many jumps.
Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 9 - The Canonn
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That's pretty new!
Never seen a settlement like this before!
Well done CMDR!
Indeed. Me neither. Never hyperdicted so far but not that many jumps.
Ok, so I've been meaning to bring this up for a while and have never bothered but it seems pertinent again now, particularly given the box in the ships cockpit and its man-made appearance,, and possible connections between the winterdictions and the UAs.
Given the fact that the UAs send message using morse code there are only 3 basic possibilities:
All the UA stuff happened well before I started playing so this may have all been sorted out at the time, but it generally seems to be that the UAs are considered Alien which would mean option 3 wrt the morse code. Has option 3 ever been confirmed as being the case?
If not, then surely the most likely origins for the UAs are human/human heritage.
Given the fact that the UAs send message using morse code there are only 3 basic possibilities:
- They are built by humans
- They are built by something non-human that has either human heritage or has had human contact, and has specifically designed something to communicate in a way easily interpretable by humans (It's a trap!?)
- The use of morse was purely something that FD used as part of a puzzle and they didn't think through what the implications of it were for the subject of the puzzle and the ongoing plot of the game
All the UA stuff happened well before I started playing so this may have all been sorted out at the time, but it generally seems to be that the UAs are considered Alien which would mean option 3 wrt the morse code. Has option 3 ever been confirmed as being the case?
If not, then surely the most likely origins for the UAs are human/human heritage.
If 3 were the case, FD are unlikely to come out and "confirm" it imo. Though I do anticipate 3, with the reason explained away by something like 2.
It's just the hyperspace clouds left by the Frontier and FFE hyperspace drives - they were sloooooooow so very unlikely these more advanced beings used that.
As mentioned by some recently the ship clearly shoots out a green/yellow beam that splits into three and opens the rift until it passes through, it's all very different stuff and much more wormholey than frameshifting/warp as we know it at all.
Spotted something else before getting to that point.
The light when the ship scans you doesn't come from the centre of the ship/main part of the cockpit, it comes from here:
See these side by side stills from as close in time as I could get them:
(The bigger rectangle is just to show that the ship is aligned and on the same level across the two constitutent images. The smaller rectangle is taken from the light on the right hand image and dragged across to show where it's located on the image of the ship without the light.)
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I noticed that also but wastn sure if it was just my eyes, also is it just me or is that top hat wearing figure in that part also on the botton of the docking/wall sections of the ancient ruins only blurry?
I think we should consider some sort of Earth defense fleet. We cannot allow the cradle of humanity to fall should they become hostile
This maybe nothing because there is a fair amount of distortion,
tho maybe interesting... The first audio we here (before the scan) during the Alien ship encounter, sounds like it is almost talking at certain points in an unknown language,
Just as a little experiment I slowed this audio down by 90%
right at the end of the first audio sequence,
I think I can just make out a voice that can be understood....
Like I said this could be nothing, just hearing things in the sounds from the original audio recording.
I will uploaded the video however... the portion of audio I was interested in cycles 3 times, then on the 4th time I have written in subtitles what I think I can hear.
What do you think? Nothing, or maybe something?
[video=youtube;nE0Gnp8HkSs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nE0Gnp8HkSs&feature=youtu.be[/video]
tho maybe interesting... The first audio we here (before the scan) during the Alien ship encounter, sounds like it is almost talking at certain points in an unknown language,
Just as a little experiment I slowed this audio down by 90%
right at the end of the first audio sequence,
I think I can just make out a voice that can be understood....
Like I said this could be nothing, just hearing things in the sounds from the original audio recording.
I will uploaded the video however... the portion of audio I was interested in cycles 3 times, then on the 4th time I have written in subtitles what I think I can hear.
What do you think? Nothing, or maybe something?
[video=youtube;nE0Gnp8HkSs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nE0Gnp8HkSs&feature=youtu.be[/video]
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Also the top bowl is the exact same image thats on the neolitic bowl inside newgrange!!!!
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http://imgur.com/kfuDuPS
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Should i add that bowl inside newgrange is part of the sirius mystery and was taught an alien deity would come and sit on it during winter soltace for offerings
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Should i add that bowl inside newgrange is part of the sirius mystery and was taught an alien deity would come and sit on it during winter soltace for offerings
Other drawings of weird flower shaped images are scattered accross rocks that look very similar to the ship also
http://imgur.com/6jmc58B
http://imgur.com/6jmc58B
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I'm uploading right now also my Video footage of my encounter. Youtube takes some minutes but i will post it in this thread as soon as it finished 
It happened right at the second jump after grabbing an UP.
I've honked the Ship but nothing happened. I had some....problems using the wake scanner but i made it. I'm still waiting for an second encounter to try dropping the UP and honking before the ship leaves but 50 jumps later within the UA shell no further encounter
It happened right at the second jump after grabbing an UP.
I've honked the Ship but nothing happened. I had some....problems using the wake scanner
but i made it. I'm still waiting for an second encounter to try dropping the UP and honking before the ship leaves but 50 jumps later within the UA shell no further encounter 
i wonder if a UP will shut one of these down?
have you also noticed the morse signal in the lighting before the scan happens? I have reduced the speed to x0.2 to see that it can be some morse signal. I have only a screenshot from the moment because youtube still needs some minutes.
I have not enough knowledge to decode it if it is morse.
I have not enough knowledge to decode it if it is morse.
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These are not thargoids! Or at least the kind were used to. I think there Oresians from Drews lore page "Thargoids are divided into more than one group. We know of the Oresians and the Klaxians." I dont remember where I read it but i heard the Oresians are Red. BUT!
The one in the trailer is green. the one we have seen is red. and it makes sense that its not shot at us because according to Drews lore... "There was also another race mentioned in “The Dark Wheel”, known as the Oresrians. These were portrayed as a peaceful offset of the Thargoids, but very similar in overall appearance, albeit with a warning to Commanders to “Check the thorax markings and the shape of the fourth joint on each hind leg before jumping to conclusions.” so... these are friendly they gotta be
EDIT: ADD ON TO THAT! UNKNOWN ARTIFACT IS THREAT LEVEL FOUR! UNKNOWN PROBE (Which is also red) IS THREAT LEVEL 2
EDIT: ADD ON TO THAT! UNKNOWN ARTIFACT IS THREAT LEVEL FOUR! UNKNOWN PROBE (Which is also red) IS THREAT LEVEL 2
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You know, honestly, once the second and third crash site was found, these UA's were scattered all over the place. If these ships weren't the ones seeding them in various locations, it's possible that they scooped them up and fell victim to the same issues that cause our own ships (and stations) to eventually malfunction. Only a theory mind you, but I agree that if these things aren't the owners of those UA's there's a very good chance that the UA's caused them to crash, so I quite agree with your theory.
Okay Youtube finally finished the upload
check out these lightnings from the wings at 1:05, i think it can be something like a visual morse signal. Someone around that can decode it maybe IF it is morse?
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sadly i didn't captured my cargo hold but i was carrying an UP
[video=youtube_share;YqEXiBPuTXw]https://youtu.be/YqEXiBPuTXw[/video]
check out these lightnings from the wings at 1:05, i think it can be something like a visual morse signal. Someone around that can decode it maybe IF it is morse?
Oh edit:
sadly i didn't captured my cargo hold but i was carrying an UP
[video=youtube_share;YqEXiBPuTXw]https://youtu.be/YqEXiBPuTXw[/video]
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:faceplant: Dude.. x) " Or at least the kind were used to. I think there Oresians from Drews lore page "Thargoids are divided into more than one group."
Oresians Are thargoid and so are Klaxians !
Both of these groups are thargoid race ><
http://www.drewwagar.com/progress-report/elite-dangerous-lore-the-thargoids/
And Okay I can understand , in a in-game perspective you can say its not thargoid I agree with that, BUT in a lore perspective the first thargoid encounter was the same exact WAY as we have now in game !
And, can you imagine Frontier create another race than Thargoid with the fact that we Know thargoid are now Human enemies since we beat them in the first war (Again Lore perspective ! )
Anyway
Everyone has a different point of view, for me its thargoid so I will say Thargoid ! have a great day.
EDIT : I want to say for your edit that you are correct, we dont know if UP or UA are from same races, we dont know what they are.
At this right moment we dont even know if UA or UP are the reason of these interdictions!
We are assuming too much.
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I agree, the centre of the crashed ships compared to these ships are different:
Crash Site Example:
First Contact Example:
These are both clearly different... (and I'm sure if we all analyze the 8 wings hard enough, we will see subtle differences in shape and colour).
I think these are both Thargoid (as a race, but one (I think) is Klaxian, and the other is Oresian - these will be Ethnically different (Caucasian, Asian; for a more 'human' example).
This also raises another possibility;
If the Crash Sites are Klaxian, then they must be related somehow to the Unknown Artefacts. After all, one Crash Site has 3 or 4 Unknown Artefacts scattered around (right next to) the crashed alien ship...
So I propose this hypothesis;
Klaxian technology is related to the Unknown Artefacts.
Oresian technology is related to the Unknown Probes.
This could be vice-versa, of course, but considering the Unknown Artefacts are scattered around the subtly different looking (and only green-glowing) crashed alien ship, and not probes, it must mean we are dealing with two ethnically different types of Thargoids.
Both the Unknown Probes and the new alien ship encounter disable us in exactly the same way - they power down our ships (or at least disable our cockpits, because shields are never lost nor need to reboot - this in itself means disabling our means of control is more of a way of pacifying us just for the short term - it is not an aggressive act, albeit, even if we see it that way).
Both the Artefacts and Probes look very different;
Probe:
Artefact:
Pay close attention to the colouring! Now compare the colours of the probes to that of the Crash Sites and then the one being seen during the Hyperdiction!
I believe the Unknown Probes are Oresian with the latest Hyperdictions and are related to those alien vessels (the reddish and murky brown colours are consistent with one another) - this may explain why no one is being Hyperdicted when carrying an Unknown Probe, even if they are also carrying an Unknown Artefact. This could be a huge hint.
Now look at the Unknown Artefact - then check out the colours and glows of green on both the Artefact and that of the alien wreckage...
They match.
The Barnacles? I also think they are related to the Unknown Probes and the living ships Hyperdicting everyone - they specifically HEAL space stations with Meta-Alloys that they produce, and may in fact be something the Oresians use to protect themselves against the Klaxians... who could be returning, and the "good" aliens know they are coming...
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:faceplant: Dude.. x) " Or at least the kind were used to. I think there Oresians from Drews lore page "Thargoids are divided into more than one group."
Oresians Are thargoid and so are Klaxians !
Both of these groups are thargoid race ><
http://www.drewwagar.com/progress-report/elite-dangerous-lore-the-thargoids/
And Okay I can understand , in a in-game perspective you can say its not thargoid I agree with that, BUT in a lore perspective the first thargoid encounter was the same exact WAY as we have now in game !
And, can you imagine Frontier create another race than Thargoid with the fact that we Know thargoid are now Human enemies since we beat them in the first war (Again Lore perspective ! )
Anyway
have a great day.
EDIT : I want to say for your edit that you are correct, we dont know if UP or UA are from same races, we dont know what they are.
At this right moment we dont even know if UA or UP are the reason of these interdictions!
We are assuming too much.
From my memory of the Dark Wheel by Robert Holdstock the Oresrians just looked like them. Didn;t say they were peaceful Thargoids. They had physical differences (slight differences) from memory it was their knees or something. Similar looking but not the same race.
EDIT: Found it..
" Alex stepped away, heart beating, blood rushing to his head. Compound eyes, jointed limbs, head
antennae, double cutting jaws . . .
Thargoids!
Here, on a space station!
Thargoids were deadly. Thargoid spacers had their fear-glands removed, and were considered to
be the most effective and potent of humankind's enemies. The bounty for killing a Thargoid was
huge, and for capturing and delivering the juvenile form, the Tharglet, to any Space Navy research
centre, even greater.
What were they doing here?
The Thargoids chatted together and watched Alex coldly. Alex noticed that each had an appendage
resting on its thoracic plate, where they holstered their hand-lasers.
'Back off,' a voice whispered, and Alex turned. McGreavy stood there blinking through his
deformities. Alex had not grasped how short the man was; he only came up as far as Alex's chest.
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'Thargoids . . .' he whispered.
'Bull,' McGreavy said, and dragged Alex away. 'They're Oresrians, and the one thing that can
make an Oresrian deadly is being confused the way you've just confused them, with their deadly
enemies the Thargoids. Check the thorax markings and the shape of the fourth joint on each hind
leg before you jump to conclusions again . . .'
Alex followed McGreavy gratefully, away from the whispering insects."
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