Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 9 - The Canonn

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*Tin foil hat on*

Just a thought, what if FD made witchspace like how things would be like when you teleported something?

Atomize on one end and you're put back together at the other. Of course following the laws of relativity, your ship would still look like your ship, since space and time are relative to you. However, everything else would look fragmented, or ... look like clouds
 
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Guys! I've solved it!

The Guardians are Golgafrinchams. They were on Ark A, and Ark B presumably arrived on Earth thounsands of years in the past!

I know this thread moves fast, but cough ahem cough:

OK, reading a couple of the data blurbs, I couldn't help thinking:

"Having not yet developed FTL technology, the Guardians constructed three large arks for their first interstellar colonies. Much like the Generation ships in our own history"

Three arks. I wonder whether they sent the B Ark off first....?

This would fit with Rizal's acnestor theory :p

:D

Edit: great minds and all that. I do struggle to believe FD didn't have the Golgafrinchams in mind when they decided there were 3 arks, not that I'm complaining.
 
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Just tell us the 14th. The remaining 13 are already transcribed here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...3tODwHQdEnxLoVIj4ceGrpGQ8/edit#gid=1850242339

I only see 6 in that sheet, I'm not trying to be awkward, but I have to switch between my game and notepad or that spread sheet for each message, I want to help other commanders with the info I've got, but would rather a more convenient way to copy the messages. since they're in my inbox, is there a chance they're stored locally somewhere on my hard drive?
 

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I only see 6 in that sheet, I'm not trying to be awkward, but I have to switch between my game and notepad or that spread sheet for each message, I want to help other commanders with the info I've got, but would rather a more convenient way to copy the messages. since they're in my inbox, is there a chance they're stored locally somewhere on my hard drive?
Take a screenshot using F10. Then you can use the snipping tool, or something similar, to just include the messages. Finally, you can upload those images to something like imgur.com and post the bbcode for the album here (please inside
tags).
EDIT; note that some messages are too long to be included in one screenshot (needs to be scrolled), so make sure you take two pictures of those and just label them accordingly.
 
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Take a screenshot using F10. Then you can use the snipping tool, or something similar, to just include the messages. Finally, you can upload those images to something like imgur.com and post the bbcode for the album here (please inside
tags).
Could also load the images into something like FineReader.
 
i posted about that earlier with a screeny of the system, no one seemed interested, i was in that system last night having a quick gander at the first planet and moon and the 3rd planet, the whole system looks very interesting.

top post on this page

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...d-other-mysteries-Thread-9-The-Canonn/page793

Yeah, possibly everyone was busy searching the first site, I know I was, but I'm heading out there now, going to be a long day me thinks.
 
I only see 6 in that sheet, I'm not trying to be awkward, but I have to switch between my game and notepad or that spread sheet for each message, I want to help other commanders with the info I've got, but would rather a more convenient way to copy the messages. since they're in my inbox, is there a chance they're stored locally somewhere on my hard drive?

There are tabs at the bottom of the sheet. You were probably looking at History messages (6 so far). Switch between categories to see the rest of them.
 
I'll just want to throw another theorie into space:

Can there be a connection between the patterns on the obelisks and the necessary artefacts to decrypt their signal?

On the obelisk, there is a pattern of three hexes, which are shown below, which "flashes" at different frequencies.

http://i.imgur.com/bt5vBgx.jpg

Here is a nice animation for further analysis:
https://ixalon.github.io/elitedangerous/

The hexes are thereby divided in the center, which results in 6 different fields.
We will find 6 different artefacts in the ruins, which are necessary individually or in a combination of two to decrypt the data.

Is there a link between the displayed patterns and the required artifacts (6 and 6)?
 
Good morning everybody!

I know there is an error in the map but I'm waiting someone to update it. However you can find the map in the spreadsheet as well.

NOW THE IMPORTANT THINGS:
I strongly think that, reading carefully through all the data we found, we already have hints about how to find the other Ruins.

What I take from the data is that this civilization is very similar to us, or perhaps even less advanced, though they have reached other achievements in other aspects of technology, they were not so advanced in terms of interstellar travels.

So my conclusion is that THE OTHER RUINS MUST BE VERY CLOSE TO THE ONE WE ALREADY FOUND. A near star system, OR EVEN THE SAME ONE: EVEN THE SAME PLANET!
Another reason for me to think this, is that the mission has a time limit. And we know that a time limit not goes well with the size of the galaxy.

No need to go to the other side of the galaxy, like some are suggesting, being very wrong IMHO. ;)

Be careful.

Thank you for validating my ideas :)
 
This is currently the most Accurate list of Results from the Ruin.
http://i.imgur.com/B38mkGj.png

The Ruin does seem to be slightly buggy. Theres a chance that Repeating it will gain you some of the Information.

In my brief time scanning with single objects last night, I got 2 hits:
Casket @ #2 - Hist 8/21
Tablet @ #11 - Lang 8/21

The chart you linked shows these as Relic + Casket/Tablet, so maybe the Relic has no effect on the scan?

Almost 1/3 of my scans resulted in a missing message.
 
In my brief time scanning with single objects last night, I got 2 hits:
Casket @ #2 - Hist 8/21
Tablet @ #11 - Lang 8/21

The chart you linked shows these as Relic + Casket/Tablet, so maybe the Relic has no effect on the scan?

Almost 1/3 of my scans resulted in a missing message.

Yeah I experienced pretty much the same thing.
http://www.screencast.com/t/au0r6Fb9n5Ia

I started to get a bit Bored towards the end and stuck around the first 4 obelisks constantly relogging and scanning.
I had already claimed 11 known before I started logging the singles.
 
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In my brief time scanning with single objects last night, I got 2 hits:
Casket @ #2 - Hist 8/21
Tablet @ #11 - Lang 8/21

The chart you linked shows these as Relic + Casket/Tablet, so maybe the Relic has no effect on the scan?

Almost 1/3 of my scans resulted in a missing message.
I just tried 11 with just Tablet, no data.
 
"With rocket technology deemed environmentally unfriendly, they developed vast launchers that used electro-magnetic propulsion to catapult ships into space. Breathable gel cocoons helped pilots and passengers withstand the huge G-forces experienced on launch, and served as hibernation pods during long journeys. Having not yet developed faster-than-light technology, the Guardians constructed three large arks for their first interstellar colonies. Much like the Generation ships in our own history."

This would indeed indicate that the colonies are nearby, if we assume these attempts were successful.

I agree, the use of the word “interstellar” implies they traveled to other stars, so very nearby systems only from the sound of it seeing how they were sublight too. However, that barely narrows anything down for us as the ruins themselves are extremely hard to find without guidance. We could have a fleet of commanders searching by their mark one eyeballs for months and still not find anything even if it was right under our noses. We just don’t have the tools to make such a search practical without further clues or information to greatly narrow the search zone down.

Either we are missing something, or this will be nigh impossible.
 
I agree, the use of the word “interstellar” implies they traveled to other stars, so very nearby systems only from the sound of it seeing how they were sublight too. However, that barely narrows anything down for us as the ruins themselves are extremely hard to find without guidance. We could have a fleet of commanders searching by their mark one eyeballs for months and still not find anything even if it was right under our noses. We just don’t have the tools to make such a search practical without further clues or information to greatly narrow the search zone down.

Either we are missing something, or this will be nigh impossible.

I mentioned Earlier about the possibility of the CG in Rift / Conflux etc probably being this.
We were originally looking for a Generation Ship we thought was launched from Earth.
It could turn out to be the Guardians and those Probes were the Initial Probes they sent out and made a Rally out of before Launching a Sleeper ship full of people on a Sub-Light Journey they knew would take a Long Time
 
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I agree, the use of the word “interstellar” implies they traveled to other stars, so very nearby systems only from the sound of it seeing how they were sublight too. However, that barely narrows anything down for us as the ruins themselves are extremely hard to find without guidance. We could have a fleet of commanders searching by their mark one eyeballs for months and still not find anything even if it was right under our noses. We just don’t have the tools to make such a search practical without further clues or information to greatly narrow the search zone down.

Either we are missing something, or this will be nigh impossible.

I absolutely agree on the subject of interstellar and I don't think the planet of the first ruin was their home planet, so I don't expect to find another ruin there. The term "continent" implies that their home planet had oceans and an atmosphere. But don't agree we have to search in the nearby systems, only because they had only sublight travel capability. You have to think about the timescales. It could be thousands of years when the arks launched, so I really expect the other ruins to be connected with the missing beacons in the rift the like.
 
"With rocket technology deemed enviromentally unfriendly, they developed vast launchers that used electro-magnectic propulsion to catapult ships into space. Breathable gel cocoons helped pilots and passengers withstand the huge G-forces experienced on launch, and served as hibernation pods during long journeys.Having not yet developed faster-than-light technology, the Guardians constructed three large arks for their first interstellar colonies. Much like the Generation ships in our own history."This would indeed indicate that the colonies are nearby, if we assume these attempts were successful.

If we want to establish a search area we need, at least, a time variable. If we cannot date when these ruins were active, it is simply impossible to determine where any arch ship may be located.

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I absolutely agree on the subject of interstellar and I don't think the planet of the first ruin was their home planet, so I don't expect to find another ruin there. The term "continent" implies that their home planet had oceans and an atmosphere. But don't agree we have to search in the nearby systems, only because they had only sublight travel capability. You have to think about the timescales. It could be thousands of years when the arks launched, so I really expect the other ruins to be connected with the missing beacons in the rift the like.

However, if these beacons are or were really connected, this indicates that this civilization did effectively act as an space-capable one. That is, they were a whole and not just a bunch of disseminated outposts or colonies.

If we assume that they managed to reach some habitable planet (for them, earth like?), it may be a good idea to search for what nearby potential systems they aimed for. Maybe new ruins may be found in ELW's moons? Just a wild guess.
 
I absolutely agree on the subject of interstellar and I don't think the planet of the first ruin was their home planet, so I don't expect to find another ruin there. The term "continent" implies that their home planet had oceans and an atmosphere. But don't agree we have to search in the nearby systems, only because they had only sublight travel capability. You have to think about the timescales. It could be thousands of years when the arks launched, so I really expect the other ruins to be connected with the missing beacons in the rift the like.

Thing is, how long are you thinking in terms of timescales? Remember the Rift/Conflux/Gap are around 8-10,000LY from the Bubble. Exactly how many thousands of years would it take them at a fraction of c to get out there? Exactly how ancient are the Guardians?
 
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