Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 9 - The Canonn

[GingerHuntsman]

Just noticed something crazy.


Edited the lighting to show clarity:
http://i.imgur.com/ObsYebF.png


I was sitting at 1 and looking towards 2. Using 2 and 3 as cross-hairs like a gun (or orbital gun) the moon and directly in the center.


http://i.imgur.com/sKTgQs6.jpg

Deedrix,

Is the moon in the same orientation every time it comes around? If the moon is tidally locked then we may find something on the moon at that longitude. That would make sense if the ruins are indeed a communications hub. I would be open to travel this longitude from pole to pole if anyone wants to join me on a road trip.

For those of you asking for my spreadsheet, you can find it here: https://goo.gl/OVldYU

Thanks and keep up the investigation everyone,

CMDR Ginger Huntsman

 

[Da-Nee]

Yesterday i had a message after a scan " data fulll storage " and after that seem that combination of codes does'n work anymore, seems i'm stucked now, Is this happen to someone else?

 

[tatjam]

More context:
- I started at an outpust in the bubble (not sure which one, but not very populated)
- Went to Meene directly
- Started to travel to the ruins system
- Went to refuel at an star off the course (What's up with Synuefe being full of T Tauri?)
- Arrived at the Ruins system and scanned the planets
- Approached the ruins, it took a while to get out of hyperdrive, longer than usual (There were about 10 commanders in the area, that may be)

-- Will send a ticket

 

[walaykin]

Yesterday i had a message after a scan " data fulll storage " and after that seem that combination of codes does'n work anymore, seems i'm stucked now, Is this happen to someone else?

That's normal. Look in your right hand panel under Inventory, Data, and discard some of the useless junk e.g. the grade 1/2 stuff that's easy to reacquire

 

[McNemisis]

In solo, I've tried going through the entire ruins and recording active obelisks. Then I purposefully scanned an obelisk with the incorrect artifact for that group (that triggers the message from Ram). I then immediately went back through the entire ruins and no new obelisks were activated.

I've also tried scanning successfully (didn't get a new decoding, but didn't get the Ram message so I used the right artifact for that group), and it also did NOT activate a new obelisk.

So I've concluded that they are not tied to one another, and if another CMDR could confirm in the same method I did, I would appreciate it!

I'm interested in learning what the alpha + gamma (or any combination) we receive from a scan means. Why get two sets of data? I feel like this means something as well.

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Ooooh, now that would be amazing!

I Can confirm the same, I took one object scanned all active obolisk corret or incorrect and checked the remain going round clockwise from the bottom of the site,
I've done this for all items so far and not seen any change infact i didn't get much data either until i went into open,

i'm starting to think that placement is the key and that in solo the mass scanning / movement is affecting the results,

on a side note i can't help but think it might be bugged as well, when you scan the incorrect combo on an obolisk in Open you can't rescan the same obolisk again due already scanning it.


in solo you always end up at a point where all of them shutdown and only a relog will reset it.

 

[GingerHuntsman]

Great job Zieman. These are very clear and easy to read.

Thanks,

CMDR GingerHuntsman

 

[Deedrix]

Deedrix,

Is the moon in the same orientation every time it comes around? If the moon is tidally locked then we may find something on the moon at that longitude. That would make sense if the ruins are indeed a communications hub. I would be open to travel this longitude from pole to pole if anyone wants to join me on a road trip.

For those of you asking for my spreadsheet, you can find it here: https://goo.gl/OVldYU

Thanks and keep up the investigation everyone,

CMDR Ginger Huntsman

Yes it is locked, and another commander said a few pages back that when coming up from the opposite side of the plant it rises up from the small pad.

Edit:

The moon always sets there. If you don't move it will rise over the small pad, in a few hours.

 

[Pumabear8]

On mound F, there is a very low volume modulated repeating audio, I'm passing this on for anyone who wants to record and analyze, almost like a high pitch modulated buzz.


Forgot details, I can only hear it when in my ship, not in SRV

 

[CMDR MRMAURICE]

I don't believe this is the first time this has happened (always prepared to be wrong though ). I'm sure I remember it being a bug that a few encountered a while ago, but I can't find the reference to it. I'd definitely recommend filing a report and sticking in a ticket.

Merope 5 c had a similar bug. Where CMDRs would randomly get module damage just flying around(happened to me). It was when the whole planet was one instance for pretty much everyone. If that rings a bell to what you're referring to

 

[tatjam]

Oh, indeed there were a lot of commanders in the area. Possibly more than 10

 

[Leo3ABP]

Greetings Commanders!

In an attempt to make obelisk data more easily readable and somewhat less cluttered, I made my own data sheet in google docs and I need your help to populate it for further reference and aggregation. For the most accurate results I recommend doing all scans in solo mode to avoid interference from simultaneous scans from other players in regards of decrypted data.

I used this map from the first page as a numerical reference to obelisks.
Here is the link to a public sheet, in it you will also find instructions on proper data format: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1bLswiqR3BEPqtGpmw7AT__hor7c5B-daOyUV1cUP9EQ/edit?usp=sharing


/CMDR Leo3ABP

 

[Deedrix]

Did anyone else figure out what was the stepping stones to obtaining the location of the current ruins?

We essentially skipped a few steps when the content was released and a commander used the stars in the sky to locate the ruin instead of the intended way FD wanted.

 

[nico-izo]

Sorry if my question was already answered here, but why everyone so sure about two-items combinations? It was answered somewhere by the devs or something? Why not three or four?

 

[Windscreen Smudge]

Deedrix,

Is the moon in the same orientation every time it comes around? If the moon is tidally locked then we may find something on the moon at that longitude. That would make sense if the ruins are indeed a communications hub. I would be open to travel this longitude from pole to pole if anyone wants to join me on a road trip.

For those of you asking for my spreadsheet, you can find it here: https://goo.gl/OVldYU

Thanks and keep up the investigation everyone,

CMDR Ginger Huntsman

Dead end. The second moon is tidally locked, and I already checked the area. It was easy. It's also very small, and very rough terrain. I was able to cover a large area by flying upside down from 5km up and looking for anything that was unusually flat or straight. If there was anything there it would've been immediately noticeable.

 

[Profaned Profanity]

Sorry if my question was already answered here, but why everyone so sure about two-items combinations? It was answered somewhere by the devs or something? Why not three or four?

Someone will probably answer this before a moderator approves my message, but it's because SRVs can only hold two items at a time.

 

[nico-izo]

Someone will probably answer this before a moderator approves my message, but it's because SRVs can only hold two items at a time.

So why exactly ancient civilization should encode sequences with two-items keys, only because of some civilization in the future, that could not fit three or more in the cargo bay?

 

[Leo3ABP]

So why exactly ancient civilization should encode sequences with two-items keys, only because of some civilization in the future, that could not fit three or more in the cargo bay?

Maybe because they used binary numerical system?

Better question is - why each key has to weight and fill exactly 1 tonne of space in ships of some civilization in the future

BTW how long does it usually takes to get a post approved by moderators here?

 

[-Denali-]

So why exactly ancient civilization should encode sequences with two-items keys, only because of some civilization in the future, that could not fit three or more in the cargo bay?

If you feel it necessary, you can believe that 4 would give you something unique. Only being able to fit two doesn't preclude the possibility. It just makes talking about it pointless atm.

 

[DippyNikki]

My partner and I have acquired 13 data points from PG.
After seeing this threads comments about other points not reported on GingerHuntsmans search results,https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1lURLEmaznAYqYhsAHT3bLfvRdyLnF7VF4lMVpbMG0qY/edit#gid=608079533 we tested the following:

H16 = Casket+Relic ( By scanning all obelisks in "casket" area seen on "multiple artifact" tab map via above link)
H13 = Casket+Totem (By scanning all obelisks in "casket" area seen on "multiple artifacts" tab map via above link)
L10 = Tablet + Totem (By scanning all obelisks in "tablet" AND "casket" area seen on "multiple artifacts" tab map via above link)
L11 = Tablet + Urn (By scanning all obelisks in "tablet" AND "urn" area seen on "multiple artifacts" tab map via above link)
C11 = Totem(yet to test if actually Orb) + Relic (Scanning everything on the site)

We tested the above in a PG and we could only confirm H16 worked for both of us.
We switched to open play and the strangest thing happened.

L11 = Confirmed by myself
L10 = Confirmed by my partner

We were in the same open play instance but we didn't get each others data point. So my partner did the same as i did for L11 and it didn't work. I then did the same as he did for L10 and it didn't work. This leads me to believe that the "special" obelisks may have a pick up limit on them somehow.
I've relogged so many times and tried H13, L10 and C11 (with totem not orb) over and over, but still I get nothing.
We've even tried the most recent theory of "activating the relic beacons" but this doesn't change anything. This leads me to believe that maybe the "special obelisks" data points at limited to 2 per day. I'll try them again tomorrow to see if I can pick up any more, but a few things are clear:

1. some obelisks are only obtainable in open play, for whatever reason
2. special obelisks can't all be obtained in one go
3. culture obelisks combinations are pure by pure luck so far with reports of them being collected only by camping the site in open play with others doing the SRV scanning. There haven't been any posts with replicable evidence that culture data points are being collected from obelisks

I hope this helps give everyone a baseline for where we're currently at with confirmed combinations:

13 in private or solo games with up to 17-18 confirmed with evidence from SRV scanning and not site camping.
The max I've seen from a player site camping is 34

I'd love to know if anyone has more info on the Culture combinations

 

[Da-Nee]

That's normal. Look in your right hand panel under Inventory, Data, and discard some of the useless junk e.g. the grade 1/2 stuff that's easy to reacquire

Ok thanks