I'm creeping at 93 with gear down for topographic map.
Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 9 - The Canonn
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I'm creeping at 93 with gear down for topographic map.
I got bored im of to do something else.
This is true in a vacuum. But the speed of light travelling through a medium does vary by frequency (eg. splitting of light by prism).
If there are other ruins on the same moon, and the raising towers are for communication, and the communication technology requires line of sight, then measuring the height of the towers could help to reduce the search area: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Line-of-sight_propagation
I have like 7 pages more to catch up so forgive if someone already mention that.
If we will make assumption that the site was part of data storage/communication relay it has to be able to work in every direction of space at any given time.
I'm not sure what is the exact number of installations that are required to be placed on sphere (planet) in order to cover whole sky with their "LoS". Are 3 enough or do You need 4 or even 5?
Under this assumption we can try to extrapolate positions of sites using existing one.
Although I'm still convinced that there are other planets in another systems that have ruins.
Edit: Although it would give us only range at the beginning until we actually find at least one more site.
If we will make assumption that the site was part of data storage/communication relay it has to be able to work in every direction of space at any given time.
I'm not sure what is the exact number of installations that are required to be placed on sphere (planet) in order to cover whole sky with their "LoS". Are 3 enough or do You need 4 or even 5?
Under this assumption we can try to extrapolate positions of sites using existing one.
Although I'm still convinced that there are other planets in another systems that have ruins.
Edit: Although it would give us only range at the beginning until we actually find at least one more site.
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Have we been specific with the relics we've used.
For instance my thinking is that since each beacon gives you a data scan then that relic is tied to that data and so we need to match each individual relic with the proper object at each obelisk and not just have one relic used for everything
I've tried to keep up so I'm not sure if this has been mentioned yet
if so move along I guess.
For instance my thinking is that since each beacon gives you a data scan then that relic is tied to that data and so we need to match each individual relic with the proper object at each obelisk and not just have one relic used for everything
I've tried to keep up so I'm not sure if this has been mentioned yet
if so move along I guess.
And in those cases light still travels at the same speed. It just takes longer to get through the medium as it bounces about interactive with the matter in it.
I brute-forced all the Solo obelisks with all combos of ancient things, if that's what you mean.
Perhaps,
Maybe this is a bit more clear.
Each beacon has a relic, each scan of the beacon gives you alpha, beta...so on data correct.
I'm asking if when we use the relic as another scan object are we just using the same relic or have we tried a relic from each beacon with an object.
So alpha relic with urn, tablet, etc
beta relic, with urn, tablet, etc
and so on with each beacon?
If you've done that then I guess that answers my theory?
I feel like all we've done is grab one of the relics and call it good...
Of course, if the beacons only give the same data when scanned then I guess it doesn't matter. I'll have to go back to the site and scan them again....
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Right, I get what you mean now.
Honestly, because relics stack in your inventory, I don't think there's a difference between the different relics. Question being if they were different, and they stack, how do you know which ones you just jettisoned?
Agreed, also just realized there isn't a specific scan for the beacon relic, it just says you have a relic, so that kind of sours my theory
You could however use one relic form the beacon, use available objects to scan the obelisks, then eject that relic and get the next beacons relic and repeat the process
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I can load my spreadsheet to googledocs but now even i don't understant that is there...
36 is a interesting number... it like 10 or something like this - too many combinations and preconditions.
1. I don't think that Guardians (that seams not so hi-tech civilization) will use so big "pointers".
2. Difference between old and new ruins is one pillar and it is close to obelisks group A. So if this pillar point us to this planet then to what object point us pillars in old ruins?
Long time I want to determine the latitude of the ruins according to moon rising. Maybe this evening i will see moon in zenith
2d has moon? I think moons orbit is keystone of all ruins.I second that
Currently surveying SYNEFE XR-H d11-102 2d, the area round +(45 to 55) / (-130 to -140)
pops significantly more POI´s then the rest of the planet. Additionally its astronomically oriented in same way like Beta site on 1a (thats how I found it, day before yesterday at Beta site SMC, Center of Barnards loop and D11-102 1 were just touching the horizon, I looked for same area on 2d).
BTW I call 1a site the Beta site, as it contains set 2 (~8-15) of messages....
I like your idea to call this known ruin - ruin site Beta or something close to it.
PS: 10 pages left to read...
I'm assuming all the data that can be mined has already been mined from the Synuefe site - according to here, which hasn't been updated in a couple of days: http://remlok-industries.fr/1030/the-guardians-lore/?lang=en
Technology:
1-6 - Not Discovered.
7-13 - Discovered.
14-20 - Not Discovered.
Lore:
1-7 - Not Discovered.
8-16 - Discovered.
17-21 - Not Discovered.
Language:
1-7 - Not Discovered
8-14 - Discovered
15-21 - Not discovered
Biology:
1-6 - Not Discovered.
7-12 - Discovered.
13-19 - Not Discovered.
Culture:
1-6 - Not Discovered.
7-13 - Discovered.
14-20 - Not Discovered.
How odd is it that all the entries discovered are found within the medium ranges of the potential data?
Doesn't that suggest two other ruins to be found? One that can fill in 1-7 (etc), and one that can fill in 13-21 (etc)???
Unless the entire mission and site is completely bugged, I don't see this as a co-incidence - surely we are missing two other ancient ruins that are somewhere else, so completing the rest of the data is, at this point, impossible at Synuefe (edit: at least this site in Synuefe - there could be more ruins on the other nearby moons for all we know). Frontier haven't said anything on it (aside from admitting to looking if there are bugs)...
Technology:
1-6 - Not Discovered.
7-13 - Discovered.
14-20 - Not Discovered.
Lore:
1-7 - Not Discovered.
8-16 - Discovered.
17-21 - Not Discovered.
Language:
1-7 - Not Discovered
8-14 - Discovered
15-21 - Not discovered
Biology:
1-6 - Not Discovered.
7-12 - Discovered.
13-19 - Not Discovered.
Culture:
1-6 - Not Discovered.
7-13 - Discovered.
14-20 - Not Discovered.
How odd is it that all the entries discovered are found within the medium ranges of the potential data?
Doesn't that suggest two other ruins to be found? One that can fill in 1-7 (etc), and one that can fill in 13-21 (etc)???
Unless the entire mission and site is completely bugged, I don't see this as a co-incidence - surely we are missing two other ancient ruins that are somewhere else, so completing the rest of the data is, at this point, impossible at Synuefe (edit: at least this site in Synuefe - there could be more ruins on the other nearby moons for all we know). Frontier haven't said anything on it (aside from admitting to looking if there are bugs)...
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ive been saying all along 2 other sites with 1/3 of the data exists, what those triangulating the next points is to find 2 sites that perhaps are the same distance apart and the same angle for an even sided triangle. The map anaysis of the ruins perhaps isnt a way forward, but it could be, hearld newsstories, undiscovered unregistered comm beacons close to the bubble and other ways forward could be the key
The sirius corporation UF research program is another CG that may have ways forward, so keep an eye on procyon and other sirius corporation systems
The way the rows are spaced out, there should be some overlap between the rows. its not perfect, but I dont want to add more space, because the thing is enormous as it is.
I think that moon is important. So i will use moon celestial coordinate system (moon celestial equator as planet equator and go on) and i will look another ruins on this specific latitude.
Thanks for this great work, i will update my map set on weekend with this information.
Wow...that community goal finished already? Apparently was done five hours after it started, lucky I chucked a couple of bits of data at it last night I guess :/
Lots of details here. Good work
Or there may be more than three sites with shared layouts. In other words there may be a site looking completely different or just like the one we found but with a different set of obelisks available for activation and scanning.
To find an equilateral triangle's vertices' coordinates in 3d, we need to establish a 3d plane first. Or make some assumptions like that we know where the centre of the triangle is.
I did some simulations in GeoGebra and came to a conclusion we havent got enough data to triangulate anything out of it.
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