THE FORMIDINE RIFT MYSTERY (Part 4)

Quick correction. The ELW that the Sidewinder pilot tried to reach was not necessarily in the same system that she deployed the beacon in. She signaled her support ship and, after receiving no response, flew back to discover nothing but debris. The ELW would have been in whatever system the support ship had been in. It could be that they were both in the same system at the time ... but that isn't a guarantee.

She does say "flew" and not "jumped" back though...
Just sayin'
 
Going on Drew saying we missed some galnet stuff...please read the galnet article on 19th nov 3302....meta drive audit complete...
It says that some exodus documents were missing and then a ex employee stole a ship and crashed in the alioth system...
Did he have on board information related like locations?
Has anyone followed this up before ?

OMG how did we miss that? So now we need to find Raan Corsen's ship, which crashed "somewhere in the Alioth system".

You know what drives me mental about trying to research things on Galnet? Like absolutely tree-climbing psychotic ranting spare? The lack of a SEARCH facility on the Galnet website. I mean...come on FD, this the future people.

Edit: Another Galnet post with more details about Raan Corsen.
 
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OMG how did we miss that? So now we need to find Raan Corsen's ship, which crashed "somewhere in the Alioth system".

You know what drives me mental about trying to research things on Galnet? Like absolutely tree-climbing psychotic ranting spare? The lack of a SEARCH facility on the Galnet website. I mean...come on FD, this the future people.

It's the future, but we also forgot how to equip air/space to ground radar/lasers to map planetary surfaces apparently as well. ;)
 
OMG how did we miss that? So now we need to find Raan Corsen's ship, which crashed "somewhere in the Alioth system".

You know what drives me mental about trying to research things on Galnet? Like absolutely tree-climbing psychotic ranting spare? The lack of a SEARCH facility on the Galnet website. I mean...come on FD, this the future people.
Maybe , maybe not as pointed out this article might have just given us the exodus word at the time...it's hard sometimes if something is solved before a clue is given..I can't always keep up.
I use http://ed.frank-heinrich.net/index.php?title=Galnet_Archive to check galnet.
 
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OMG how did we miss that? So now we need to find Raan Corsen's ship, which crashed "somewhere in the Alioth system".

You know what drives me mental about trying to research things on Galnet? Like absolutely tree-climbing psychotic ranting spare? The lack of a SEARCH facility on the Galnet website. I mean...come on FD, this the future people.

Edit: Another Galnet post with more details about Raan Corsen.

Galnet News Searchable

scroll down a bit its on the left
 
The ex-Employee was Raan Corsen. The only person in Alioth to witness Corsen's crash was CMDR Ashley Wilkinson. I participated in the event vicariously as I was winged up with CMDR Ashley Wilkinson, CMDR Moonweb and Raan Corsen but I was at Jaques at the time. Everything I know about Corsen's last moments before the crash comes from monitoring the even over The Earth Defense Fleet's Teamspeak. Corsen never chatted to the wing so we only have Wilkinson's reports to tell us what was said and seen.

Wilkinson reported his take on the events in the Oct 12, 2016 edition of Lave Radio.

The only clue that the Corsen investigation gave, iirc, was the "Exodus" code word used to unlock the message of the beacons (though I think someone worked out the code word by brute force prior to it being published in Galnet). It does present possibilities that there is a connection between Metadrive, Sirius Corporation and the settlements in the Rift, Conflux and Gap.

Sirius Corporation is also a prime candidate for involvement in those weird "private data beacon" wrecks that have been turning up. Some of the logs from those wrecks a) point to experiments with FSD technology b) suggest that some kind of problem has been found with FSDs and c) suggest that "agents" will be after the people who discovered it. The logs also mention sightings of unknown ships and imply that ship systems can be hacked into and taken over remotely - possibly as a consequence of installing firmware / malware.

I've got a write up at home, I'll post tonight.
 
OMG how did we miss that? So now we need to find Raan Corsen's ship, which crashed "somewhere in the Alioth system".

You know what drives me mental about trying to research things on Galnet? Like absolutely tree-climbing psychotic ranting spare? The lack of a SEARCH facility on the Galnet website. I mean...come on FD, this the future people.

Edit: Another Galnet post with more details about Raan Corsen.

A very simple way to search the official Frontier Development Galnet Archive is to use a custom google search parameter as follows:

site:https://community.elitedangerous.com/en/galnet thargoid

This search string yields 23 results for the word thargoid. It can be customized by simply using any keyword you want to search for by replacing thargoid with anything you want.
 
The ex-Employee was Raan Corsen. The only person in Alioth to witness Corsen's crash was CMDR Ashley Wilkinson. I participated in the event vicariously as I was winged up with CMDR Ashley Wilkinson, CMDR Moonweb and Raan Corsen but I was at Jaques at the time. Everything I know about Corsen's last moments before the crash comes from monitoring the even over The Earth Defense Fleet's Teamspeak. Corsen never chatted to the wing so we only have Wilkinson's reports to tell us what was said and seen.

Wilkinson reported his take on the events in the Oct 12, 2016 edition of Lave Radio.

The only clue that the Corsen investigation gave, iirc, was the "Exodus" code word used to unlock the message of the beacons (though I think someone worked out the code word by brute force prior to it being published in Galnet). It does present possibilities that there is a connection between Metadrive, Sirius Corporation and the settlements in the Rift, Conflux and Gap.

I think those documents are in the hands of the Alliance now. More specifically the Turner group.

Turner research and Turner Metallics, will have access to those Exodus documents.


Edit: By the way, Raan is fine: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXjeguVeiNw
 
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Are those videos part of the "official" storyline, or did someone just pick up the name and run with it? I am wondering if this is another Salome-style advanced NPC or not.

It is another 'acted' NPC. It's official.

Not sure how official the video is, but I expect to hear more from Raan Corsen.
 
Exactly this. I understand thinking it would be a way to direct people and keep them from running over equipment but that would imply tracks going THROUGH and that doesnt seem to be the case.

Once through your gate, people are still free to drive anywhere they want, in between buildings and over equipment. I don't think that argument holds water, I'm afraid - especially if Drew is suggesting we look beyond 'gate'.

to be fair, it could be where the ships land and once inside the compound your past the sensative equipment? i dont want to say the explenation makes no sense, it just doesnt fit all the questions.


All this discussion about the gates, maybe ya all have couch potatoed too long ;) When I was young and we build bigger tent camps with the scouts, we always build a gate, because a camp needs a gate, because, we just could .. :eek: didn't have any meaning, we still entered from all sides and ran about all our equipment, but a camp just needs a gate. Similar symbolic like flag poles (which I miss very much in Elite).

Aside from this, congratulation to you you all! Have been watching and reading this for long time and really impressed how you brute forced all that locations so quick, and it is pretty funny how the surface scanner was "invented" with loading times, I think Frontier could now just add it this way ingame (on the other hand, if brute forcing planets is not the intended way here neither for the ancient ruins, that is not really needed).

I just started playing around Christmas and still catching up to get some base equipment to join the exploration fun here, what is still hard for me to understand is how this all started.. there were the Galnet Articles and CG about Salome which pointed at these three sectors, then people scouted them and found the beacons (and later the settlements after Frontier fixed these), right?

So as one beacon could be still missing, how do you find them exactly? Just jump into the system, honk, and look for the beacon in navigation tab, exploring each unidentified body, or have to scout around the whole system, or how did this work?

Thanks!
 
My theory about experiments and experimental tech gone awry could still fit?

***Tin foil hat time***

Sirius Corp (Funded by The Imps and Feds) were joint field testing with prototype meta-drives based on alien tech (discovered UA's or UP's). Maybe beacons were set up in 3 far away regions (conflux/gap/rift) for these prototype drives to lock onto for initial testing (see if they can jump that far?). Once the drives were charged and jump initiated, something went horribly wrong.

Ships with these prototypes in the bubble went "missing", and the exit point at the other end (in the rift/conflux/gap) opened up but something else came out (aliens, lurking evil etc.) causing equipment malfunctions and general shenanigans for hundreds of light years around these exit points, eventually costing everyone their lives. Since then they have tried to cover it all up. whatever came out the other side might also be what the old woman was afraid of in the rift.

Fast forward to more recently and Kahina has now learned the truth (holofac docs and also what she saw herself in the rift) and is being hunted/persecuted by the Imps/Feds to silence her.

The alliance also got wind of these experiments and are trying to either reproduce, or produce their own version. This is why the Alliance has such an interest in regions where meta-alloys and UA/UP are found (Hence Mic Turner Base way out in the California nebula). Raan Corsen came across these secret archived reports of what happened 30 years ago while an employee of Sirius Corp, dug deeper, and discovered the Alliance's secret project regarding Meta-drives. Horrieid by the events of what happened before, and determined not to let it happen again, he stole the docs and the new prototype ship the Alliance had and attempted to flee, crashing somewhere in Alioth system.

Since honking UP's disables ships, fits that equipment malfunctions in these regions where tech based on said alien technology was being deployed.

Since the Alliance has started up these experiments again, and this alien based technology is active again after 30 years. these aliens have returned looking for their technology (hyperdictions) in an ever expanding area. Also explains the hyperspace interdictions, weird lights, etc from the data logs 30 years ago.

Some realms in space and time we are simply not meant to visit, and these Aliens/thargoids are meant to keep us in our own dimension, by force if necessary. (explains previous wars maybe? how long have we been experimenting and using frame shifting drives? where exactly is "hyperspace" when we are between folds in space? seeing as FSD works by folding space in front of the ship, and uses thrusters to "hop" from one fold to the next moving forward.

Sorry for the rant...

This is my attempt to tie everything together...
Wouldn't mind some feedback... not sure if I'm close or way off base..
There's A LOT of details and story-lines to keep track of...
 
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Yea, Drew mentioned we missed clues to figuring this out, and the brute force method was circumventing using the in game mechanics/clues...so take that for what it's worth.

Well, if we miss the clues what other method is there?
Perhaps we need an author's "Dummies guide to the Formidine Rift" ?

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Searched & nada?



I wonder what the clues are?

Maybe we'll find them in the next book

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Sorry to quote myself... but to clarify: I don't necessarily believe this - i am just throwing out ideas.

To add something to the pot - one of the characters in Lave: Revolution is a blue haired Imp girl from a wealthy Imp family. Albeit she ran away, but the co-incidence is intriguing.

Don't think the timescale is right for Kahina/Salome

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Which leads back to the Thoth message from last week. A reminder that there was a way to find Jaques. We just didn't find the clues until after.

Perhaps if someone cracked that code? It was ignored after Jaques was located.
 
It's extremely tinfoily. But Ed and Dav's stream from last week had a message at the end that led to a crashed T9 with the call sign Bravo Gamma Sierra (BGS). Dav is a BGS/server guy. Here's the really tinfoily part, the ship was carrying 419 copies of a book on simulating the background. Someone (I don't remember who) looked on pg 419 of Elite: Tales from the Frontier and the system mentioned, Wendigo had a news article in the station that could've led us to Jaques.

That article at Wendigo had a coded message, but it was never deciphered as somebody located Jaques via the Galmap a few days later.

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Yea agreed, I think must be quite obscure though!

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Bood? Was that an accidental typo by you or a deliberate 1 by Drew?

Typo, now corrected.
Swear my fingers are swelling, or this ipad is shrinking

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I never thought of like that.. good point! You would think though assuming she knows what happened to the crew that she would be a tad more.. hmm shall we say, crazy? I mean eighteen days stranded on your own, knowing what happened to the crew. I think anyone would go batty [wacko] or does she know what happened to the crew? too many questions, too little answers. All we are going off are these scraps of story that we have found. Finding this ELW is harder than what i thought it would be.

Sorry about my derpy quote. Still getting my head around forums :p

She's of sterner stuff -the old lady was Elite!
 
Ywas M Brookes who said Nebula were good places to hide things.

Also, it might just be me, but wouldn't the person be in a Cobra if we were supposed to be *sure* that it was the OW? I mean, I think she was on the expedition, but I am not sure it matters which bit she was on.

The Cobra was much later, presumably after (if she was the old lady from Reclamation) she must have made it back to the bubble somehow at which point had her mind wiped by the shadowy organisation behind this expedition. Then later she lost someone & in her grief went exploring-she didn't realise that she'd already been there years before, then possibly she had her mind wiped again on return? I'm getting confused, perhaps I typed this ages ago and someone wiped my memory? Who am I?

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I am thinking its local GalNet

Use of local Galnet is a poor way to give us clues. It requirs someone to check each time they dock, dock at the right station, realise there's a clue and disseminate it; they are not recorded, like the main Galnet articles are, for posterity so imposisble to retrieve once overwritten.

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I don't think this is accurate. I think @jorki said this the other day, and then when we looked at the quote it said she looked sad and then said 'I had some spare time' or words to that effect. Could easily be a loss, but could be anything really. I don't believe there is a quote where she expressly suggests there was a death - but I would happily be proven wrong.

Part of the quote in my previous was exactly this, fifth line, re-quoting...
“Don’t tell no one, but I got as far as the Formidine Rift, not many folks can say that! No one has gone past it and lived to tell the tale.’
‘The Formid …?’
‘Edge of the galactic arm. Take a line from Reorte to Riedquat to the edge of the arm and … keep going.’ The woman grimaced. ‘Stars thin out, you can see the whole galaxy just hanging there. I took a fancy to going exploring after I lost …’ she paused, a sadness creeping across her face, ‘… had some time to spare. Quiet for the most part, until …’
‘Until what?’
‘Let’s just say there was some serious out there, stuff you wouldn’t believe. No really –”

Excerpt From: Wagar, Drew. “Elite: Reclamation.” Fantastic Books Publishing, 2014-05-29T23:00:00+00:00. iBooks.
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