Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 9 - The Canonn

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Neil_Trayce

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Fliposide said:
Looking at he ruins map, what if the circular mounds are not representing Planetary systems but actually Atomic descriptions?

Maybe the outer wall represents a connection of a Molecule/Compound?
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I tend to think same way. The whole thing could represent crystaline structure. I've been comparing the given 4 systems with the materials that "trees" drop. Here's my updated list of "chemical suspects", ranging top to bottom as higher to lesser chances of finding.
IC 2391 Sector GW-V b2-4
A2 B4
A4
B2

IC 2391 Sector ZE-A d101
C3A C3
C8
C7 B3 B4
C9 B2

Synuefe XO-P c22-17
D2
D10e D10f D10g
AB2 AB3 AB3a ABC1a D1 D5 D10a

Synuefe ZL-J d10-119
7d 11a 16b
7a 11d
3 5 7e 9c 9d 15b
 
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Brakhir

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SpaceGoblin said:
I believe he's refering to this one (took more than 'a couple' of clicks to get there,mind).

Post #8767, in response to #8766 (this thread).

If so, it is not *quite* as cut and dried as Octanoz states, but certainly has implications.
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Thank you very much :)

So actualy MB said about the ruins quest : https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...9-The-Canonn?p=4870863&viewfull=1#post4870863

That confirms my thoughts. This quest is a mission given to a large part of the community, which is not the case of the other mysteries. We should all keep that in mind.

The common sense implies that the missing clues are reachable by most of us, not only the smarters. Then maybe some theories here are a little bit too complicated for the usual ED gamers so that we can assume they are not the way intended by FD to resolve this part of the quest.

I'm not saying that these theories are useless. They are very brilliant some times and the effort of all of you is amazing. But I'm sure a simpler way is here somewhere.

I'm going to focus on that idea, on my way back to the alpha site, checking the facts one by one. If something smashes my head, I'll investigate and share if I think it's relevant.

Again the work and effort made by the community so far is just incredible. This is a part of this game, and it's one of the reasons that make it so unique.
Keep the good work commanders ! o7
 

MacFly

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o7 CMDR´s
This is my first post here and i don´t know if this is the right place for it.
Have been searching for ruins for 4 straight days now. i didn´t find any ruins but what i found i think is interisting in another way. i´m currently in IC 2391 SECTOR ZE-A D101 at C3
19.8912 / 128.2168.
There is a Crater thats approximately 400Km diameter and is like 1/3 of the Planets surface.

Further i´ve noticed that the Planet C3 has 300K just like the one the "alpha" Ruins are located and it has about the same Gravitational force (0.22G). is the temperatur and gravitation important for the search for new Ruins?
Don´t know if this is interisting for anyone but me. just wanted to let you guys know.

sry for my bad English. And Keep up the good Work.
 

SpaceGoblin

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Brakhir said:
Thank you very much :)
This quest is a mission given to a large part of the community, which is not the case of the other mysteries. We should all keep that in mind.

The common sense implies that the missing clues are reachable by most of us, not only the smarters. Then maybe some theories here are a little bit too complicated for the usual ED gamers so that we can assume they are not the way intended by FD to resolve this part of the quest.

But I'm sure a simpler way is here somewhere.

I'm going to focus on that idea...
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Yes, I keep coming back to this in my meta-game thinking, too.

The mission from Ram Tah signs off with:

"Please explore as many ancient sites as you can find. If you can find all the data entries, there will be a bonus in it for you".

To me this, along with the attached 4 week deadline and displayed 100Mcr bonus, strongly implies that its all out there for us to find, if we can just figure it out, and has been since the mission went live.

It could just as easily be a 4 week cycle of CG's - but I believe the mission was available before the CG came along (please let me know if mistaken on that front), which to me only adds to the implication that the solution is there for us already, if we can just un-pick it.
 
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rashkaindaspace

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chuci said:
D4A is a very pretty place (largely pink surface with attractive green canyons) but it's cold here (50K) and not alot apparently going on...
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Yeah. It's cold. But the main question of science - why not? [alien]

CMDR Hellakitty said:
There's a simple elegance to this that keeps me coming back to it. Once I've got the Sirius permit later today I think I'll have a trundle out there and have a scout around.
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Fly safe commander! o7
 

Justicar_Thorn

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SpaceGoblin said:
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Yes, I keep coming back to this in my meta-game thinking, too.

The mission from Ram Tah signs off with:

"Please explore as many ancient sites as you can find. If you can find all the data entries, there will be a bonus in it for you".

To me this, along with the attached 4 week deadline and displayed 100Mcr bonus, strongly implies that its all out there for us to find, if we can just figure it out, and has been since the mission went live.

It could just as easily be a 4 week cycle of CG's - but I believe the mission was available before the CG came along (please let me know if mistaken on that front), which to me only adds to the implication that the solution is there for us already, if we can just un-pick it.
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Can verify, mission was live before first CG
 

Rennard

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Just found this on "IC 2391 Sector GW-V B2-4 D. I assume its just a random POI but just posting it for reference.

http://imgur.com/a/1PxKF

I found it while driving around in the SRV so no idea if it came with a blue circle.

Edit: Logged out and back in and its gone, so random POI I guess.
 
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street

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Based_Belial said:
That's why I asked. Calm down. It's widely used in other games so I figured it was worth asking. Thanks for the replies
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As you said "Data Mining" I've realized the following: I think that the obelisk should contain much more information than few lines of text. What if those informations are within the pattern that the obelisk enlight when close enough? I mean those exagons composed by small triangles. Might be that the pillars have written on their basis the key to read them?
 

AdmlAdama

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Factabulous said:
Nice work CMDR!

Can I just confirm that the idea is that we see multiple (system local) objects that seem aligned to the sites, so finding the intersection point may work and allow us to predict lat/long on new locations? (I think that's the aim - you're not trying to find the new target systems - are you?). This means that even if this method works (I am hopeful) then there is still the mystery of how the 'next system(s)' are encoded in the current site (though we could skip that for now as a lat/long is more useful).

I had a quick look in the spreadsheet and it looks like just numbers - it's a shame we haven't got working calculations in the spreadsheet as it's difficult to find what is wrong (especially of you're using a modified version of the linked website)
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Ideally we can work towards a set of coordinates.

However, with the measurements captured that way, if we can calculate the proper great circle we can at least give a set of waypoints and bearings to actually track an orbit in such a way that we can do a single circumnavigation of the ground track of simple objects like a moon or parent star.

So for the moon if we can outline its actual path with minimal deviation. In the case of this planet we'd hit the ruins.

Not sure about the parent star but the main star "I think" does the same thing and so having a way to get a set of waypoints and bearings means we still have a lot of ground to cover but a lot less.

I'm going to try and see if I can do that for the moon at least from the other side of the planet and will I get a path close enougb to run into the ruins within audio range.

If so we can focus on landable bodies with moons and try it out.
 

Jorki Rasalas

Jorki Rasalas
Apologies for bumping my own post, but I have tried to compare the photo of the internal view of a relic posted by Cmdr Megacrafter above with the one that Cmdr Thatchinho posted the pther day & which I found I had saved on my ipad. I believe the internal glyphs are different between the two, but comparison is a bit tricky with the different lighting and view angles, & I can't see how to reduce cyan level on my ipad.

So would really welcome more hires pix of the internal views of ALL the relics, preferably with the same orientation, to explore this hypothesis.
 
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JJ12880

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Ive been following for a bit, but really don't know how to contribute. My ADHD wont let me do surface searches very well. What I DO have, is a bit of experience in programming and encoding, including binary and hex. SO, if there is anything in particular that I could work on, point me in the right direction. Also, I can make calculator or combination brute forcing programs, if I know what i'm trying to accomplish. I don't know if that falls into the no-no category or not, if so no worries, just a resource I can bring to the table if its wanted.
 

Scaarab

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Jorki Rasalas said:
Apologies for bumping my own post, but I have tried to compare the photo of the internal view of a relic posted by Cmdr megacrafter above with the one that Cmdr Thatchinho Iposted the pther day & which I found I had saved on my ipad. I believe the internal glyphs are different between the two, but comparison is a bit tricky with the different lighting and view angles, & I can't see how to reduce cyan level on my ipad.

So would really welcome more hires pix of the internal views of ALL the relics, preferably with the same orientation, to explore this hypothesis.
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Even better anyone made a spectograph of the sound the relic towers emit with the relics inside? If I remember correctly they were distinctively different. But I have no tools and I was preoccupied with the relic combos and now im 500 ly away.... Pretty plox?
 

wodthing

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SpaceGoblin said:
He could. Or he could also mean "we'll put the clues in, and if they don't find them in a timely manner, do a CG to kickstart things, and some more to keep things moving, as we decide is neccessary". As may already have happened.

A whole lot of coulda, sorta, maybe.

We can sit here and second guess MB's/FD's intent, or try to brute force it*, or take what we've got and try to figure it out*, or leave it until further developments occur one way or another, and go do something else instead (in ED or otherwise). Of course, flip-flopping histrionically from one to the other is also an option ;D

*warning, may not actually be do-able, so if you don't enjoy it regardless of outcome, stick to more satisfying activities!
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If this CG was FD's way to "kick-start" things, then they seriously lack imagination. Let's just assume, there are clues embedded in the original ruins, that will not only point us to the right system, but also to the exact coordinates on the right planet to find the next set of ruins. Why then, after the first CG, would they have Ram Tah give a list of four systems, instead of hinting on a possible significance of a certain aspect of the ruins (layout, artifact, relic, lines, correlation to stars, etc.) to nudge the community in the right direction. As it stands right now, FD gave us a puzzle with a bunch of variables, but no apparent constant, and if we don't have at least one value assigned to one of the variables, the attempt to solve it is rather futile.
 
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