Yup. It's the same.
Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 9 - The Canonn
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Yup. It's the same.
Thank you Jman
That's not what you did, which is the problem. You claimed it was all obvious, all a key, that you'd solved it and ascertained all kinds of facts and patterns that could be relied on based on measurements that now after being asked several times you've failed to give any justification for.
You could have disproven it all for yourself with one trip to the ruins to say "oh, no i was wrong you can't even see the ruins from the location I said they were actually in after claiming the rest was just meaningless rounding errors." Other people did that though - and were ignored.
Anyway - let's move on. Let's find out if this ruin is meant to be identical or it's yet another headline feature bug
Careful now!
Hope you recover from the migraine soon. Caused by too many hours of searching? ...
Happy Birthday, and well done CMDR. 1 down, n to go...
Hope you recover from the migraine soon. Caused by too many hours of searching? ...
Happy Birthday, and well done CMDR. 1 down, n to go...
Commanders, kindly direct your attention over here...
http://i.imgur.com/LhAYBXl.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/8bLbPy6.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/YSrX6IT.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/laPl9KJ.jpg
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Right, me job's doneI'm having a pesky migraine, so excuse me if I'm not available for questioning. Also it's my birthday today, so kind of a neat present for me, no?
Have fun!
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A compass and a protractor. Bear in mind the image of the ruins from this image is tilted at an angle, because the person who took the screenshot wasn't directly overhead of the central part where I took the measurements - that's why I allowed for margin of error.
(also, this is an old image - not the one I've been posting lately)
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Have you gone and checked the ruins ingame length tho? Its likely that from the picture length they'd be wildly off to the ingame ones, this would also progress into cords and etc, admittingly Lengths ingame would be pretty large But it would be better to use them and divide them into more usable numbers
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Unfortunately, unless it is 100.1% correct, people in this thread dismiss hypothesis
Not everyone. I'm afraid I've not been taken by any of the geometric/map theories so haven't paid close attention to many of them. Mainly because I think none have been properly explained. The newly found ruins may be identical to the first, which I think could either be a bug (yes, FD do occasionally make some [sarcasm mode off!] - I think it would be helpful if JManis raises his bug report and we really need an MB comment on this asap), or it could be intentional in which case the compass overlay type theory might gain some weight - if there are differences in moon orbits etc between the two sites.
My own hypothesis of differences in the internal markings of the relics as an indicator of site location has not yet been fully laid to rest but seems to be weakened by various pictures posted; I'm looking forward to seeing relic pictures from this new site.
I'm not so sure that the sites have to have different data sets. IFF this is the library of the Guardians attached to their comms network then it might be logical for them all to contain the same replicated data, or subsets of the data to be replicated across two or three sites for safety if one site became damaged. I still suspect there may be a way to get more data in solo mode from the first site, & that might be expected to also apply to any other site; if open/pg modes are getting more data from one site than solo mode then why? It is logical to infer that the open/pg extra results are because of some happenstance triggering of the mechanism that should work in solo to switch to a different subset of the data.
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Well, added my 40c to the bug report (thanks Hironichu for opening it), now going back to the bubble til this debacle sorts itself out.
On the plus side, part of my testing now means I have a fresh 4 weeks on the mission...
Me neither. None of this stuff has actually proven anything to-date.
On the plus side, part of my testing now means I have a fresh 4 weeks on the mission...
Me neither. None of this stuff has actually proven anything to-date.
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I never claimed anything - I've always said it was a hypothesis. Fact.
It is just better to start with facts not with assumptions.
Similarities so far:
- orbiting body is a dwarf star
- planet has a moon
- rare element is Tellurium
- ruins are around -30 degrees latitude
We could start with this, but it could be just coincidences.
So far, withj testing done by CMDR Melsom it would appear that the solo results for data being discovered is the same on this planet as it is on the original. If that's the case then I'm going to jump to the conclusion that this site is bugged too if solo was supposedly working as intended to solve the combination puzzle elements of the Ram Tah mission.
It should be the case that each site would give off new results in solo even iff the open results are bugged if solo is working as intended. Apparently ity isn't.
So far these are attainable in solo on both planets at both ruin sites.
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more testing going on but I think this points to the same solo data (which should be working as intended) being present on both sites so we could be stuck at this point until a patch or server side update fixes things if this is a buug which it seems to be.
It should be the case that each site would give off new results in solo even iff the open results are bugged if solo is working as intended. Apparently ity isn't.
So far these are attainable in solo on both planets at both ruin sites.
Tech 7
History 8
more testing going on but I think this points to the same solo data (which should be working as intended) being present on both sites so we could be stuck at this point until a patch or server side update fixes things if this is a buug which it seems to be.
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What bothers me the most is the total lack of ingame tools to assist in the search for anything ingame.
I hope Fdev take a good look at the amount of complaints brought up during this and the formidine searches and get some work done on the other aspects of the game and leave combat alone for now.
I hope Fdev take a good look at the amount of complaints brought up during this and the formidine searches and get some work done on the other aspects of the game and leave combat alone for now.
Well, nothing screams "game" more than finding two identical sites, with the same exact collapsed walls/crumbled pillars.
There's no way to suspend disbelief on this one. The sites are copy/paste identical.
I think we have to accept that what we were hoping for, and what we got, are two very different things.
All that wasted tin-foil.
There's no way to suspend disbelief on this one. The sites are copy/paste identical.
I think we have to accept that what we were hoping for, and what we got, are two very different things.
All that wasted tin-foil.
Assumptions/hypothesis is all anyone had to go by until today.
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Thanks Cmdr, these pix will be useful to those examing the pillar glyphs at the new site for any commonality/differences, but I am only interested in pictures of the internal glyphs shown in the relics themselves.
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Hear bloody hear.
This stuff gets into national and international news, it gets covered by the gaming press worldwide and gives substantial bumps to player numbers.
So why in all of creation is more dev time being spent on more combat additions with military slots and balance passes after balance passes on combat upgrades that have terminally imbalanced the game for those who don't want to "play their way"?
Imagine if all that time had been spent on making this puzzle work correctly? On making 4 different and individually interesting ruins?
Nah. Healing lasers. Sorry to sound a little embittered but this has been a kick in the face for my love of this game and I'm now firmly in the "I'm not sure the lead devs know what they're doing" camp.
Yeah and today you should rethink your theory and not just increase error ranges.
What is your response to the prime meridian argument?
Come on you lot, quit it.
We don't have to agree with anyone's theories, we are all quite capable of deciding for ourselves if following up any one hypothesis over the others is a waste of our time.
If we decide any particular theory is a waste of our time, we don't have to come and crap all over it in here, it adds nothing.
Just focus on the one(s) you find relevant, or spam F5 waiting for site 3 to show up, or go farm bounties at Nav Beacons, whatever you feel is a good use for your time.
Also - has anyone collated a list of brain tree locations? Any near the new ruins? (I'm wwaiting for moonrise to take pics).
We don't have to agree with anyone's theories, we are all quite capable of deciding for ourselves if following up any one hypothesis over the others is a waste of our time.
If we decide any particular theory is a waste of our time, we don't have to come and crap all over it in here, it adds nothing.
Just focus on the one(s) you find relevant, or spam F5 waiting for site 3 to show up, or go farm bounties at Nav Beacons, whatever you feel is a good use for your time.
Also - has anyone collated a list of brain tree locations? Any near the new ruins? (I'm wwaiting for moonrise to take pics).
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could you get a screenshot of the planet details please???
I want to know the differences between this new planet and the old one!
p.s. thanks for the inside ruins co-ords
I don't think I was far off in my drawing it is almost 32 by 32
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This a joke?
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Can you not see the straight red line in my image?
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