A Final Plea to Frontier for Longer Hairstyles

[Kyokushin]

Technical constraints are technical constraints, alas. We should be appreciative of the direct answer.

Cheers,

Drew.

But we are enough aware what is real techincal issue and what is lazy explanation. There are grown up peoples who are working as programmers or SI engineers

 

[vrseven]

Thank god, a straight up answer about a feature that isn't boat-anchored and keelhauled by some fairy nonsense like Telepresence.

Speaking of which could you please revise that statement about multicrew to be more technical and redact any mentioning of Telepresence? It's done nothing but castrate any real conversation surrounding the topic.

Im shocked too wow Ed. I guess Ed is the "Neo" of the FD Matrix, the anomaly. lol Still, if Ed said this in the live stream, it would not have prevented Hairgate. But A+ for a direct answer and quick response. I am sorry for Momoka and Darkfyre, tho. I hope they dont quit playing, but this thread has been very revealing for me. I would not want to continue liking or +repping people that would be outright disrespectful to FD, trivialize the time and effort FD put into developing this uniquely awesome game, over something so minuscule, but if FD did listen to them and add it, it would have delayed the updates, releases even further. And that would be very selfish.

 

[Cmdr Cheese Wedge]

Gamers.
We're an odd bunch.

 

[Aewarin Jameson]

Liqua, I love to argue with you but this is .

I am taking the michael out of you - that's your MO - claim things will be added later when you have no clue.

Ed just responded - due to "technical" (*cough* *laugh*) constraints they can't do long hair ... so no, it's not going to be added.

 

[Trinity Star]

It's unfortunate Elite can't be modded, character creators in other games 'get' the hairstyles people want regardless of the default selection that are offered by the developers. As somebody who spends much time fussing over my character's appearance ingame I regard hairstyles as one of the most important parts of the character's look.

 

[vrseven]

But we are enough aware what is real techincal issue and what is lazy explanation. There are grown up peoples who are working as programmers or SI engineers

You should stop being disrespectful to the team. Its enough.

 

[hunvagy]

"Growing old" avatars are vanity feature most likely used very rarely so I don't care.

Anyway, Michael confirmed on another thread that it is still hologram you see, not "real you". So they reserve actual you to look different if they want.

Actually what he confirmed is that indeed, the creator itself is a mirror that you look at with seeing yourself as a hologram, not your model being one. Only the other crewmembers who are summoned to your bridge will be holograms. You yourself are real.

 

[DNA-Decay]

It's also a disservice to so many of our Commanders.
Marra is a long hair.
Thunda is a long hair.
Momoka is a long hair.

 

[Aewarin Jameson]

You should stop being disrespectful to the team. Its enough.

The irony

 

[StiTch]

Shelving long hair as "too hard" is a disservice to astronauts from Valentina Tereshkova to Peggy Whitson.

I am pretty sure neither care about the technical limitations of a non-realistic space game.

Already said previously I am a long haired male that would love long hair in game, but I appreciate that it's not my game and if the devs make a decision, that's not my decision to complain about. If we need to have short hair for now instead of removing another part of the update such as the vastly improved camera system, then sorry mate but the term "deal with it" come to mind.

I also have respect for deceased equine mammals...

Frontier generally do well on gender.

They can do better here.

Ah of course, I forgot only females can have long hair.

Pot, kettle....tom-eh-to, tom-ah-to

 

[Kyokushin]

You should stop being disrespectful to the team. Its enough.

I wrote Fdev are AAA high class programmers. Is that discrespectful?
Go home, take a life and get off from me.


I Wrote how it looks, nothing disrespectfull. People suggested explanation for longer hairs and everyone here know its not too hard to implement.

 

[h347h]

If they did add long hair you wouldn't ever see it in ships. It would just be stupid to wear it un netted in zero G. However having it change as soon as you dock and get off the ship would be cool. Perhaps that could come with a role playing patch that also added missions you could acquire at in station locals. And even add civilian clothes.

 

[Trafalgar Law]

Somewhat disappointing that we're not getting longer hairstyles. Like the op I feel that it's quite important for female characters and I also feel it isn't necessary to create ultra realistic hair that would behave like it's in zero g etc. I consider that level of detail to be completely pointless in a computer game. I'd much rather have more customisation options and live with the issues such as clipping or not moving realistically.

I do hope that there will be plenty of tied up, coiled braids and various types of buns or that these will be added fairly quickly to at least give the illusion that the character would have longer hair if they were to let their hair down.

I also hope that once we get walking around on spacestations and planets that this request won't be forgotten.

 

[Becky]

Also I am curious how it ties into future content. I understand dress up changes, or hairdos. But changing your appearance on the fly all the time feels not very ....persistent for you as character. How it impacts commander when it walks around?

Do you really want to restart your character and loose all your credits/ship/ranks/etc just because frontier add in new hairstyles, tattoos or decide you really don't like that "wicked witch of the west" nose style? If you ask these questions that's what you'll end up with.

After a long successful time; WoW added in transmog and hairdressers etc because people like some variance; looking at the same character for 5 years can seem a bit dull, with these little vanity changes it can bring life back in to the game.
Personally from a longevity player base point of view I think it's a good idea to always have it available.
Also it allows people to gradually age/harden their characters over time for lore purposes.
Get ganked one too many times? add a few scars.
Punched in the face? add a cyborg eye and change the skull shape a little, maybe a broken nose?

There's lots of lore reasons to keep it open.

But you're of the mindset your character shouldn't change in appearance ever; then set it once and don't change it.
Do you look exactly the same as you did 20 years ago? and in 20 years time will you look the same as you do now? The answer is always no.

Some things will stay the same; example> your skin pigment is unlikely to change... unless you're Michael Jackson and your gender is unlikely to change, unless you're Lana Wachowski.
There are always exceptions and if people want to go crazy tbh that's for them to justify for themselves.

 

[Cmdr Eagleboy]

I am taking the michael out of you - that's your MO - claim things will be added later when you have no clue.

Ed just responded - due to "technical" (*cough* *laugh*) constraints they can't do long hair ... so no, it's not going to be added.

They can't do long free floating hair. They can do hairdos who feel long enough to meet half way for those who want them.

Also I never claimed that they *will* come. I just gave indication what might happen. Considering FD has always kept improving game, I doubt they won't add some new hairdos there and here for longer hair considering people seem to be very passionate about it.

 

[vrseven]

The irony

I didnt pay you or any other forum posters to develop ED. No, irony. You are not the FD team, no matter how many suggestive posts you and others make.

 

[Winterwalker]

Technical constraints are technical constraints, alas. We should be appreciative of the direct answer. Many thanks to Ed.

Cheers,

Drew.

Technical Constraints though don't necessarily preclude all technical solutions I'd suggest?

2.3 doesn't support longer hair. That's understood. However the question would be, if FD put us a custom flight suit in the store (asap.) if enough people buy it, would FD be able to forward more custom variations, and maybe find a solution that works around current constraints for a future update longterm? I could suggest a couple of technical ideas for Frontier (not that they need me to probably) but meanwhile any longer hair braids eg. falling over the face that fit inside the helmet model, would be in scope short term? Given enough resources .......

I'd buy a spacesuit right now, or in the weeks that run up to the beta, having already had the good experience of pre-ordering ED and having had that investment already repaid in spades, if it helps FD to resource making this VERY cool feature even more awesome.

 

[vrseven]

I wrote Fdev are AAA high class programmers. Is that discrespectful?
Go home, take a life and get off from me.


I Wrote how it looks, nothing disrespectfull. People suggested explanation for longer hairs and everyone here know its not too hard to implement.

Yeah lazy excuses? You should be grateful you got a response and in such a quick manor. That is not the FD way.

 

[Aewarin Jameson]

They can't do long free floating hair. They can do hairdos who feel long enough to meet half way for those who want them

.. and that to me is a fantastic compromise

...

I can see my comment went wayyy over your head.

*chuckles*

 

[-VR- Max Factor]

My problem with this is that almost without exception astronauts have long hair.
(If you discard the blokes)

Big hair in space is normal.
Of the few dozen women in space you find only a couple of short hairs.

You worked out how to handle mammary glands.

I say: no long hair = no beards.
Good for the goose, good for the gander.

The problem with this, is that you are talking about astrounouts of today, with massive great big helmets and suits that can fit long hair in them. What we have in ED with the remlock helmets and suits are completelt different to now. Long hair may not be feasable with them. Either way if its roleplay purposes, just roleplay that your character/avatar got a hair cut or different style.

No real problem to be honest. It is such a minor thing.

I am a male with long hair, but I can see the issues with having long hair in a remlock helm/suit would have. So my avatar will have a slightly different look to me.

And for those who will stop playing because you can't get long hair, you may need to get some help. I am not being horrible about it, just genuinely concerned if it really effects you that much. At the end of the day, it is a game, not real life.