It's broken in a new and innovative way - never before attempted by any other game. They had to invent new technology to break it so fidelitously.
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It's broken in a new and innovative way - never before attempted by any other game. They had to invent new technology to break it so fidelitously.
Viajero
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You mean iterative development is more productive than the 'big bang' approach. Huh. Who knew...
Yeh, 'big bang', parallel development etc, that is all part of the BDSSE sales pitch. And a good support to excuse delays quantified in multiple years too at that. But the reality seems to be that SC's development is being as iterative, sequential and as subject to prioritized allocation of finite resources as anyone elses.
It´s either that or everyone is doing parallel development aswell.
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Lovely video from Mr. and Miss. SausageFingers enjoying the Verse in another adorable adventure in the Verse!
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Have fun Citizens!
I really really hope CIG do go down that route, simply because there are few things that could make them look as ridiculous as suggesting that Derek Smart has somehow been responsible for causing a game with close to $150m in funding, being developed by a company with over 300 staff spread across four separate development teams, collapse and implode by posting a few blogs.
With no offence intended to Derek, it would be one of the most patently ludicrous things in the history of gaming. 'Yeah we completely blew up on developing our game because err, blog posts and goons and something'
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Well, they're already rolling down that hill.
First it was croberts diatribe about myself and The Escapist.
Then /r/ds happened (under the guise of "archiving").
It's only going to continue downhill from there. As I've said before, having them all corralled at /r/ds is great because then, when the final collapse comes, there are two primary places where they will converge - both controlled by the stalwarts. That being /r/ds and /r/starcitizen. All the other comment sections in news items, or over at places (e.g. mmorpg) which have dedicated SC forums, will be immaterial.
Remember that time when they accused me of stalking, harassment, doxxing etc - all of which were false, and which led to my legal action? It's going to be exactly like that. They will find every reason to blame me, and everyone else that's not them.
What's going to make seem even more egregious, is that, just as I wrote yesterday about how CIG just makes stuff up, backers are going to be asking :
1) for how long has croberts known they were going to run out of money
2) what happened to him stating that they would still have money to finish the game is funding dried up.
And much like all the stuff they do, and which backers can't question or affect, this too will be an issue whereby they [backers] will be ignored. And croberts will write up a lengthy post blaming everything on "challenges", "mistakes" etc. He will never answer direct questions because neither backers, nor media, will be able to get him to answer them.
And what's going to be remarkably hilarious is that, even after he stated that he manages the project based on monthly funding, as well as recently saying that there may not be enough money to finish SC, but that SQ42 sales would be sufficient, backers are going to be in for a rude awakening when he goes back and refers to those very statements which backers seemingly ignored.
At the end of the day, the ones to blame will always be those who kept giving them money. It's their money to lose. All we can do at the end of the day, is laugh; because it's not like they didn't see it coming.
The collapse is coming. I know things. Just wait. It's not something that anyone would have suspected could happen. All we can do now is wait and see what comes next (it's glorious).
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And it will have so many more fidels too of course
Oooh! That would make us in-fidels. Much is clear now!
I think they already have, blame shifting and scapegoating is what they do. They have a special abusive term for staff members who've moved on "leavers", they have special abusive term for people who question the vision "doubters", they even have a special term for fact based doubts "FUD". Then you've got the frankly insane customer tags on top of that. It's all about vilifying and discrediting people.
Look at the kerfuffle over the video Derek posted a couple of pages back. Derek was right (again), CIG didn't complete their own self imposed deadline (again). But the response was "Ha Derek is wrong on the internet he typed in an incorrect date for that video" even though the correct date didn't change anything about CIG having failed. It's a desperate attempt at shifting focus to avoid the massive glaring issue that CIG never keep deadlines.
The same as "you don't understand game development" is an attempt to belittle without engaging with whats said.
But given the woeful state of the game it really is all they've got.
Yeah, If CIG is lucky with this sale, this month won't be their worst February in funding since 2014.
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Intriguing. OK, I place my bet on Chris departing citing health problems and Erin taking over for just long enough for some new and unforeseeable technical issues require a new engine, for which the funds are lacking, followed by a closed Web site.
Any other suggestions?
I'd say rumors of staff not being paid, followed by a snowballing of damning revelations about the state of the company's finances and cash flow, resulting in total collapse and a rush for private jets to Panama.
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It's going to get progressively worse (e.g. see the latest Valentine's Day sales metrics. A sale which, hilariously, is going to be live until Feb 28th) because most of the early whales are gone, the funding chart doesn't take refunds into account, the game is getting killed (evidenced by the utter failure that is the current free fly) in gaming circles where it's the laughing stock now.
And to top it off, aside from the hardcore who are firmly stuck in Sunk Cost Fallacy and who grudgingly admit (by continuing to give CIG/RSI money) that without their on-going funding the whole Ponzi scheme will collapse, there is no more financial growth. And 2017 has only just started. There is absolutely nothing - nothing - that they can do with this project now to regain any backer's confidence. So, like all those F2P games which rely on 5 whales to pay for a 1000 freeloaders, the project is now in that realm whereby a handful of whales are responsible for propping it up. Problem is, with all these studios and all these people - and a game that's not even 15% completed yet, there is simply no way that this project survives to the release of a completed Star Citizen or SQ42.
I dont think that the project will go supernova due to funding issues personally. That's not at all to defend the project but rather they'll release some mess that sort of goes towards fulfilling the most basic aspects Crobbler has preached about. The whole MVP thing etc. Personally as soon as heard him Crobbling about an MVP I ditched the project as a backer...that and the 2.4 agreement changes.
So glad I got out. But sad also as it could have been amazing if he were honest from the start and not let it snowball into this rubbish.
So glad I got out. But sad also as it could have been amazing if he were honest from the start and not let it snowball into this rubbish.
As much as I'd like to think that, I don't believe that they will "run".
What I see happening is that, since it's crowd-funding, unless and until they actually 1) get sued by one whale - who can also seek class action status 2) they get investigated/sued by either the attorney general in CA or the FTC, they will get away with it.
Remember, it's not illegal for a business to fail. In fact, most startups have a pretty high failure rate; and in 2017, CIG is right on the cusp of that. So unless and until they get sued by either backer(s), State, or Feds, and malfeasance and/or fraud are uncovered, they won't have done anything wrong in continuing to raise funds. Even if they lied about the financial state of the project. This is what whales aren't paying attention to, and which they should.
LOL!! Serious? So you have to keep at least one?
They cannot be split up. Total madness, or greed, or both.
Today is the anniversary of the Star Citizen and Squadron 42 split into two products sold separately
http://www.polygon.com/2016/2/15/10997622/star-citizen-made-a-big-change-in-how-its-sold
http://www.polygon.com/2016/2/15/10997622/star-citizen-made-a-big-change-in-how-its-sold
Re the two ships thing.
Imagine if the love of your life (for whom you have bought his 'n hers, or his 'n his, or hers n' hers) chariots runs off with another commando.
But not just any commando. AN ED COMMANDO!!!!
Now whenever you visit your hanger, and see those two love chariots side by side, you will forever be reminded that a fool and his money are soon parted. [downcast]
Imagine if the love of your life (for whom you have bought his 'n hers, or his 'n his, or hers n' hers) chariots runs off with another commando.
But not just any commando. AN ED COMMANDO!!!!
Now whenever you visit your hanger, and see those two love chariots side by side, you will forever be reminded that a fool and his money are soon parted. [downcast]
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