The Star Citizen Thread v5

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Don't worry. CR will announce in the next few days that character customization is lined up for the next patch.

I wouldn't be at all surprised. Take one or two of their less embarrassing scanned head models, get an artist to whip up a few morph targets, attach some sliders, package it up as a completely separate module (so they don't have to worry about pesky details like polygon budgets or fiddly integration into the actual game), add a limited time concept sale*, ker-ching! Watch as the gullible cheerleaders claim that CIG has revolutionised character customisation. I don't know why it took Frontier so long (sarcasm).

* new money only, ship not eligible for melting or CCU
 
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ATV will feature a man um erring for 20 minutes about a "procedural freckle system with unprecedented fidelity."
 
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I'm liking how the "day" in "Valentines Day" or "V-Day" sale has been refactored to mean 14 days.

If 1 day in SC land is equal to 14 days in real world land this could go some way to explaining the continually messed up delivery estimates!
 
I'm liking how the "day" in "Valentines Day" or "V-Day" sale has been refactored to mean 14 days.

If 1 day in SC land is equal to 14 days in real world land this could go some way to explaining the continually messed up delivery estimates!

Oh man. That means the original delivery date is sometime around 2028 and they're well ahead of schedule

We've been played fellas!
 
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"...Following a review of your request, we have decided at our discretion to refund your account. When this is complete, your account will be closed...."

Credit where credit is due... it was quick and painless. I made the point that I subscribed to the project because of the VR hype, which never materialised. They tried to dissuade me, I politely requested a refund again and they gave it.
Hope it works out for them, but I feel like I was more than patient. As I'm concierge, the cash will also come in handy!
 
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I'm liking how the "day" in "Valentines Day" or "V-Day" sale has been refactored to mean 14 days.

If 1 day in SC land is equal to 14 days in real world land this could go some way to explaining the continually messed up delivery estimates!

Games usually celebrate holidays by putting an event into their workings. Most of the time these events last longer then a single day but we are talking about ingame activities here, not sales. The only reason for CiG to put up a SALE for 2 weeks is to milk the poor bovine dry. Honestly I dont think that will work out. Sadly Star Citizen doesnt really offer anything special for V day but its an alpha and new stuff is hard to come by on a regular development schedule as it seems.
 
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"...Following a review of your request, we have decided at our discretion to refund your account. When this is complete, your account will be closed...."

Credit where credit is due... it was quick and painless. I made the point that I subscribed to the project because of the VR hype, which never materialised. They tried to dissuade me, I politely requested a refund again and they gave it.
Hope it works out for them, but I feel like I was more than patient. As I'm concierge, the cash will also come in handy!

Welcome back concierge "brother" :)
 
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"...Following a review of your request, we have decided at our discretion to refund your account. When this is complete, your account will be closed...."

Credit where credit is due... it was quick and painless. I made the point that I subscribed to the project because of the VR hype, which never materialised. They tried to dissuade me, I politely requested a refund again and they gave it.
Hope it works out for them, but I feel like I was more than patient. As I'm concierge, the cash will also come in handy!

Good for you, good to know that you can still get your money back. How much was you in if I may ask?
 
Don't worry. CR will announce in the next few days that character customization is lined up for the next patch.


Here's a vid that discussed customized characters back in September. Perhaps you missed it... but that sort of feature has been in development, and announced.

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I've heard of people getting gifted items refunded too when they really pushed, but my memory may be failing me

I believe gifted items are normally credited back to the original gifter (who CIG paid for it), not the recipient (who paid a 3rd party.) Which makes perfect sense, as CIG cannot be expected to keep track of 3rd party PayPal transactions.
 
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Here's a vid that discussed customized characters back in September. Perhaps you missed it... but that sort of feature has been in development, and announced.

…and that's kind of the point: for obvious reasons, now would be the moment from the to announce that character customisation is lined up for the next patch. Never mind that they haven't mentioned it since or listed it on any of the cards of upcoming features. It's not like CIG hasn't exhibited a pattern of doing just that kind of ham-fisted thing, where they do emergency roll-out of features in response to what other developers present.
 
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I believe gifted items are normally credited back to the original gifter (who CIG paid for it), not the recipient (who paid a 3rd party.) Which makes perfect sense, as CIG cannot be expected to keep track of 3rd party PayPal transactions.

That may be what I'm remembering. Thanks
 
It's not like CIG hasn't exhibited a pattern of doing just that kind of ham-fisted thing, where they do emergency roll-out of features in response to what other developers present.

The 2.6.1 patch offers new camera controls; SC has offered different uniforms/clothing for quite awhile. I don't believe that if other games add this sort of thing that it's necessarily reactionary.

The first time I personally encountered "character creation in a Space Game" was in Jedi Academy, back in 2003. I don't believe that modern games are ripping off the idea from LucasArts; this sort of thing has been featured in games for years upon years.
 
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The 2.6.1 patch offers new camera controls; I don't believe that if other games add this sort of thing that it's necessarily reactionary.
That largely depends on whether we're talking about Company of Heroes 2 or not. ;)

The first time I personally encountered "character creation in a Space Game" was in Jedi Academy, back in 2003. I don't believe that modern games are ripping off the idea from LucasArts; this sort of thing has been featured in games for years upon years.
Sure, but then this isn't a matter of “ripping off” anything (for once); it's about CIG's history of being highly reactive in what they choose to trot out for a new release to try to “beat” other games doing the same (but better).
 
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Intriguing. OK, I place my bet on Chris departing citing health problems and Erin taking over for just long enough for some new and unforeseeable technical issues require a new engine, for which the funds are lacking, followed by a closed Web site.

Any other suggestions?

Erin taking over would probably be the best outcome at the moment, simply because he does at least have a track record of delivering games to spec, on time and within budget. As I've said before, reining in some of Chris's wilder flights of fancy and reminding him that development is supposed to be a process with a defined end which involves delivering a game to market was apparently one of the key skills he brought to the operation back in the day.

Today is the anniversary of the Star Citizen and Squadron 42 split into two products sold separately

http://www.polygon.com/2016/2/15/10997622/star-citizen-made-a-big-change-in-how-its-sold

... which makes it the anniversary of the day that I decided he could shove his game where the sun never shines. What a beautiful moment.

I'm one of the seven or so people who was actually more interested in S42 than SC when it was first announced because despite this being 2017 I still like single player games and obviously have good memories of playing all of the classic space games before the genre went on its long hiatus. Back when he first did the kickstarter before they even moved across to their own website, I was pretty keen on just the idea of an updated Wing Commander and would have quite happily paid for that, knowing that I was going to have the option of investigating the all-singing, all-dancing immersionfest that was to be SC as part and parcel of buying it. I distinctly remember that being the set-up.

Then it became 'oh actually we're going to split S42 into episodes, so rather than paying for the space opera game we mentioned, you'll actually just get however many missions we decide to include with the basic deal'. Obviously since I'm still on the healthy side of a lobotomy, I knew then that any promise made about the specific amount of the original S42 story arc that would be included wasn't going to be worth the paper it was printed on either, since once they'd crossed the Rubicon and said 'it won't be all of it' how can you possibly trust anything else that they might say about it?

Then it became 'actually, you will just buy either S42 or SC and have to pay another fifteen bucks to add the other component'.

That's the moment when I realised that I'd seen something like this before and it involved an e-mail from a Nigerian prince.

I'm liking how the "day" in "Valentines Day" or "V-Day" sale has been refactored to mean 14 days.

If 1 day in SC land is equal to 14 days in real world land this could go some way to explaining the continually messed up delivery estimates!

Chris uses dog years.
 
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it's about CIG's history of being highly reactive in what they choose to trot out for a new release to try to “beat” other games doing the same (but better).

That approaches Post hoc ergo propter hoc ... which I can't give comparative examples for, due to moderation constraints.
 
Here's a vid that discussed customized characters back in September. Perhaps you missed it... but that sort of feature has been in development, and announced.

Nah, i've seen that. But it was kind of "This is something we have been working on". I meant CR will announce that it will actually be available in the next patch.
 
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