If that makes you feel better. You can believe what ever nonsense you want.
Christ knows you will.
Gunner = Arcade Action Cam for the 12 yr olds?
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Christ knows you will.
Thank you. Why we keep limiting ourselves to the camera idea when sitting at machines that can render simulations I don't understand.
What? A lore-based explanation for the third person camera guarantees that in the future ships will be flown in third person? For the love of all that's holy explain this logic cause you've skipped several steps and probably your meds.
Yes it's not like we don't have sensors on our ship? I don't really think it matters if it's a camera, drone or magic space fairy; as long as it works and keeps you grounded in what's going on and offers good situational awareness, then it's probably working as intended.
In ship view automatically means poor vision (unless we are going to give every ship a large canopy) making the position pretty much irrelevant.
The only other option is to place people in a single turret, if many, then lock their view to match. This is going to be a miserable experience if you can't identify your vector, let alone "see".
His argument was that it will be mandated by tactical superiority. He basically doesn't allow for preference there.
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For that to be true BOTH of these things would also need to be true-
1. Frontier want to have third person piloting
AND
2. The players want to have third person piloting
If one or both of those are false, logic dictates your concern and argument has no credibility.
same reason wheat and gold are considered worth hauling across stars, 80's sci-fi had a different sense of scale
But the feature does not and is not planned to exist.
No you wouldn't. Because apparently you didn't even read the quote above your self quote...
you claim it "didn't come true", and I showed with 3 facts about 2.3 that we are not only half way there, we are still sliding.
Slippery slope arguments are not logic. Explain the logical steps that lead from the vanity camera now to third person flight in the future.
I am calling you on this garbage. It's a clear logical falicy. The slippery slope. In fact the developer has been very very careful to NOT make the entire flight model an external view. They have endlessly resisted calls for third person view.
The new camera views are a boon for content creators and allow us to be engaged in what is going on like never before. The developer is trying to strike a balance between ways the player can engage with the view they have, and keeping that very vital first person view.
You are sounding incredibly religious today, rather than the more level headed and logical Ziljan I know and love. What is going on?
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Slippery slope arguments are future speculation and thus aren't constrained to current proposals.
They're also dumb as all hell and nobody with half a brain should accept them as an argument for anything.
you don't need to show facts, you need to convince him that your premise is acceptable
think about this, think really hard about how to do this. otherwise you're just mentally playing yourself and wondering why people around you are getting mad
There is a 100% chance that you wouldn't understand the explanation. And even if you defied the odds, you'd still reject it out spite. So why bother?
So you can't.
Alright let me put it this way. Assume I'm the dumbest, most spiteful guy in the universe. Logically, everyone else reading this thread is therefore more intelligent and open-minded than me. So by trying to explain it to me, you'll convince all of them. By refusing to explain it to anyone, you just look like an idiot jumping to conclusions because you think everyone else is playing video games wrong.
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No, this is my fault. See, a few pages back he was all like "You know people are going to ask for it in helm position" and I responded "Yeah, that would actually be pretty cool" to which he was like "See, told you" and then it just escalated from there.
Apparently not being married to first person view when the possibility exists for my commander in game to be looking at a 3rd person view with lore explanation is heresy of the highest order.
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That isn't really possible though, because if someone doesn't accept the same version of reality (basic facts) then no premise can be shared. It's like trying to agree with someone in a different universe with different constants about the behavior of gravity.