THE FORMIDINE RIFT MYSTERY (Part 4)

Gypsy12

Gypsy12
Not sure is you guys noticed this or not...

There seems to be a overtly large amount of problems regarding BGS, texture loading... pinging and collision detection... ever since 2.3...way, way more than normal for a new release...

Like the servers are using bankers instead of the standard gerbils.

Could be blame our Thargoid overlords for shunting their very own BGS on us?

Ohhhhh.... the thought.
 

[Diplomacy] Carnegie

[Diplomacy] Carnegie
Aldaris said:
This never made sense to me. The context of that phrase is always that the thing you thought was bad, is not as bad as this other thing. That's literally the definition of calling something worse.
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It's a question of whether the Rift thing is similar to the Thargoids.

As an example:

Flu is worse than a cold
A broken arm is more trouble than a cold

Using 'worse' implies that the two things are in the same category
Using 'more trouble' lacks that implication

At least, that's the way I view it (YMMV).
Drew might or might not be intending this, but it's still worth being precise about the language being used.
 
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Snooch leBooch

Snooch leBooch
Thanks all for the link, info and general info/tips, much appreciated, rep all around. And yes i did start off on this trip unprepared due to detouring from testing silly ideas with both UA/UP around Jaques, so the 'detour' to see the Zuara and maybe play around with the UA/UP on surrounding ammonia worlds etc just somewhat sprang to mind and at first look the gaps looked too big for my ASPElephant. Thanks again
 

Alkibiades

Alkibiades
Snooch leBooch said:
Thanks all for the link, info and general info/tips, much appreciated, rep all around. And yes i did start off on this trip unprepared due to detouring from testing silly ideas with both UA/UP around Jaques, so the 'detour' to see the Zuara and maybe play around with the UA/UP on surrounding ammonia worlds etc just somewhat sprang to mind and at first look the gaps looked too big for my ASPElephant. Thanks again
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there's a ringed ammonia world in Syreadiae GW-C d1 3
 

roryclague

roryclague
My new Imperial Eagle for use on the 29th of April. I suspect there will be others with a similar name:
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Edelgard von Rhein

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Since there are quite a few people seemingly heading out to see the Zurara, I thought it might be helpful to give a quick summary of some systems with all the materials needed for FSD boosting (in explorer jargon, these are sometimes referred to as 'green' systems). Also, having recently crossed the Heisenberg Bridge myself, I can assure you that the longest jump I had to make was 32.83 LY and that the 'gap' between some waypoints along the bridge does plot OK. I crossed it in a Python with 33.00 LY range with no problems (I was on my way back from the Rift, though, so I have not visited the Zurara myself and suspect I would not have made it there without using a great many FSD boosts).
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green systems in EAFOTS:
EAFOTS GI-B D13-28 (A1, A2 and A11e have the required materials between them)
EAFOTS GI-B D13-60 (between A4, A6, A12c, A14da)
EAFOTS AH-C D13-17 (between A2, A3, A4)
EAFOTS DR-N E6-0 (between 3, 4b, 4c, 4d, 4e)
and closer to/ in the middle of the Rift itself:
MYOIDEAU CE-K C8-0 (between 1, 3, 7d, 7e)
PHOI AESCS ZB-F C11-0 (between 1a, 1b, 2b, 2d)
 
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Tanksy

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Gypsy12 said:
Not sure is you guys noticed this or not...

There seems to be a overtly large amount of problems regarding BGS, texture loading... pinging and collision detection... ever since 2.3...way, way more than normal for a new release...

Like the servers are using bankers instead of the standard gerbils.

Could be blame our Thargoid overlords for shunting their very own BGS on us?

Ohhhhh.... the thought.
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I've definitely noticed the texture loading being way slower since the update. Prior to the update, suns would fully load by the time I got to the system out of hyperspace, now they're coloured blobs until the shader loads in to make it more detailed.. Bit disappointing but it isn't affecting my performance negatively so I give it a light pass.
 

Aldaris

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DrewCarnegie said:
It's a question of whether the Rift thing is similar to the Thargoids.

As an example:

Flu is worse than a cold
A broken arm is more trouble than a cold

Using 'worse' implies that the two things are in the same category
Using 'more trouble' lacks that implication

At least, that's the way I view it (YMMV).
Drew might or might not be intending this, but it's still worth being precise about the language being used.
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But that is precise. The interpretation of the phrase is something worse. Also, it doesn't have to be similar to the Thargoids to be more trouble.
 

akaliel

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CMDR Ofan said:
Well, I've got some ships out that way, so I'll try and fight the good fight, perhaps others can too. I don't mind seeing the rebuy screen especially for something like this. Fairly sure this thread membership outweighs any amount of gankers in game, both in numbers and firepower.
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I see this comment coming up a lot. You guys are thinking about it all wrong. If grievers show up with the intention on killing Salome, they're not going to get into a fight with you, her bodyguards. They're not going to stick around to win the war. What they'll do is sit there, looking all innocent and wait. When Salome shows up, they'll probably be all on the same discord with someone counting down and when the clock hits zero Salome will be hit by 50 rails at once. She will blow up instantly before any of you even know what happened. Then they'll high wake out before your hardpoints are even deployed and log out when they get to the next system.

If they want her dead, there won't be a battle.

If you want to protect her, form a sphere of shield tanking ships all around hers with all pips to SYS.
 
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CrunchyBaton955

CrunchyBaton955
Tanksy said:
Looking at those map points - In the galaxy map, plotting each point as a Bookmark, and the largest distance was a few map quadrants. Each quadrant is 100 ly accross, right~?
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Those are just the points that used to be needed to get the plotter to work correctly. I crossed it last night and only needed to plot one in the middle becuase the total route is longer than 1000Ly. There's like 108 total jumps along the route, and the biggest is 32.6 Ly. You can circle back around to the Jurara without having to jump more than that 32.6LY to cross the bridge.
 

Tanksy

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CrunchyBaton955 said:
Those are just the points that used to be needed to get the plotter to work correctly. I crossed it last night and only needed to plot one in the middle becuase the total route is longer than 1000Ly. There's like 108 total jumps along the route, and the biggest is 32.6 Ly. You can circle back around to the Jurara without having to jump more than that 32.6LY to cross the bridge.
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Oooooooh right! Okay, that makes total sense now. I thought that each of those points was just one on the route.
 

G4RY

G4RY
akaliel said:
I see this comment coming up a lot. You guys are thinking about it all wrong. If grievers show up with the intention on killing Salome, they're not going to get into a fight with you, her bodyguards. They're not going to stick around to win the war. What they'll do is sit there, looking all innocent and wait. When Salome shows up, they'll probably be all on the same discord with someone counting down and when the clock hits zero Salome will be hit by 50 rails at once. She will blow up instantly before any of you even know what happened. Then they'll high wake out before your hardpoints are even deployed and log out when they get to the next system.

If they want her dead, there won't be a battle.

If you want to protect her, form a sphere of shield tanking ships all around hers with all pips to SYS.
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Yeah this was my point i just didn't know how to word it.
 

-Denali-

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I think something about all of this is going to lead to new FSD's, to whoever it was that said it pages back. Didn't FDev say they were working on in system hops? Maybe this is how they release it then. The theft of the new drive system, the call for drive related resources. Maybe they aren't directly related to the rift but I bet the same players are involved.
 

akaliel

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In fact, if I were committed to protecting her, if anyone shows up to the instance with a lot of rails or plasma. Destroy them immediately. Dollars to donuts they're there to help one shot her. Maybe I'm "weapon profiling", but I wager I'm right.
 

Chaparral

Chaparral
Please forgive me for coming late to the party - Any indication on the region or system where the Salome' event is taking place on the 29th?
 
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Deleted member 148280

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I'm hauling meta alloys to Hind Mine. It's the last station before reaching 46 Eridani and has a shipyard, so we should keep it up and running until the 29th.

My stealth iEagle is ready to be blown out of the sky that day, while spamming ion disruptor mines all over the place...:D
 

lorrad

lorrad
DrewCarnegie said:
It's a question of whether the Rift thing is similar to the Thargoids.

As an example:

Flu is worse than a cold
A broken arm is more trouble than a cold

Using 'worse' implies that the two things are in the same category
Using 'more trouble' lacks that implication

At least, that's the way I view it (YMMV).
Drew might or might not be intending this, but it's still worth being precise about the language being used.
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"and they thought the Thargoids were trouble" could even mean "you just wait 'til this information gets out, people will want to skin them alive trouble". Could be muttered under breath and be self-referential hyperbole that she's more trouble than thargoids "I got your Thargoids for ya right here buddy". It is sarcasm after all no matter which interpretation you pick.

Like taking the logs from the three expeditions as gospel, the characters writing the logs can have it wrong which some did regarding the signal from the mega-ship to the others. Big ship knew about little ships but not the other way around and there's effectively four expeditions not three with the Zurara being more the Formidine Rift exp than the anaconda rift expedition being more Heart and Soul.
 
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