THE FORMIDINE RIFT MYSTERY (Part 4)

Been there, saw everything but the ship, several Distress signals, Degraded emissions (at one point three of those withing 5 ls), Encode datas... Gave up for now.[blah]

Its quite easy to find, go close to the 10th planet in the Alaunus system and then fly in the direction of the Horae system for 22kls. It should show up as a POI in the navigation tab.
 
Been there, saw everything but the ship, several Distress signals, Degraded emissions (at one point three of those withing 5 ls), Encode datas... Gave up for now.[blah]

Had the same problem. Must have past it just above 1000Ls. To my luck, the CMDR i met at the Zurara few days ago (can you believe it? how are the odds? :eek:) was at the ship and could guide me in with wing-beacon.

And just for those who want to go there in Solo or PG in an unshielded Exploration ship... Don't!!!
I dropped at the ship and it was pitch black ahead! I got dropped right into the front-shield without a chance to steer away and smashed right into it. I love shields! :D
 
For those who think they will be able to protect the witch Salomé and her cultists with big ships, torps etc...

https://discordapp.com/channels/301930481887346688/301977126742261761


Only way to help them: fast ship, interdict the gan.. the assalliant , fly away, repeat.

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For those who can't or wont access this discord channel for any reason, an abstract :

-annoucements (Premonition Allied Coordination)

Jubei Himura
**FAQ by @ryan_m17 ** @everyone Those of you that know me and my group know that when it comes to ganking, we know what we're talking about. What we're all here to do is defend the VIPs from people that want to kill them. The people that will be doing this will mostly be PvPers who have a LOT of experience in ganking, especially other combat-fit ships. The ships the VIPs will be flying, from my understanding, will be mildly engineered and likely flown by mostly inexperienced pilots (for PvP, at least). This will be an uphill climb for our side, because if one of them gets interdicted, they WILL die. There is no getting around that. Our enemy has one singular purpose in mind, which is to kill the VIP. Post-interdiction, I am not expecting them to last more than 10 seconds to any PvP fit ship, so their wingmates WILL NOT be able to help them if it comes to that. Healing won't help. Big ships won't help. Torps won't help.

more ? (from the same source)

That being said, the name of the game is instance saturation and tactical interdictions. The only way these VIPs get to their end point is by clearing the way for them. This means scouting ahead for trouble. It means identifying threats and interdicting them until they leave, or our VIPs pass through. This is the strategy for 90% of the people in this channel:

-Identify target
-Interdict target
-Run like hell
-Do it again
If you are not an EXPERIENCED PVPER (SDC/AA/etc.), this is what you should run:

iEagle: https://eddp.co/u/cwssXH98
iCourier: https://eddp.co/u/Bh68f12m

With these builds, your strategy is to interdict, drop, and fly away EVASIVELY. What does evasive mean? Not in a straight line unless you KNOW you are at least 100 m/s faster than what you pulled. Evasive doesn't mean do an aileron roll as you boost away, because you're still essentially flying in a straight line. Evasive is using lateral thrusters to alter your path. It's turning while you boost to make you hard to target with fixed weapons. Evasive is popping a heatsink when you're 2km out so you drop off sensors.
Again, 90% of you should be running the above builds because unless you ALREADY know how to PvP, all you'll be doing is throwing yourself at an enemy that is unlikely to fight you, and if they do, you will die very, very quickly. If you're an experienced PvPer (meaning you regularly participate in actual high-level PvP) do what you want.
FAQ:

"But Ryan, I kill Conda/Vette NPCs all the time in my battle Conda/Vette/Cutter, I can totally take these scrubs, right?"

No, you can't, and you won't. You will die and we will all laugh at how dumb you are.

"But Ryan, I want to actually fight in this event because I need validation for my combat skills"

No, you don't, and you won't. You will die and we will all laugh at how dumb you are.

"But Ryan, seriously, I know what I'm doing. I'm going to bring torps because that's how you kill PvP ships"

No, you don't, and you won't. You will die and we will all laugh at how dumb you are.

"I don't have access to Palin to get G5 DD. What do?"

Go to Farseer and get G3 DD and roll until you get some great secondaries that put you way over the limit on optimal multiplier. The faster you can go, the more likely it is that you will survive.
"I still think I should bring a big ship. I think with healing and torps I can save the world"

No, you can't, and you won't. You will die and we will all laugh at how dumb you are.
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I cannot stress this enough, guys. If you are looking at this message for guidance, you are in the 90% that need to run those 2 builds. The PvPers you are going against will not fight you because you are not the target. If we're actually fighting, something has gone either horribly right or horribly wrong. If you end up in a fight with a PvPer, you will get toasted just like the NPCs in a conflict zone. This will happen to you (including the hilarious YouTube video): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkHoS98ciow
 
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So everybody, who doesn't support Salome/Kahina and has different opinion on the flow of the things is a ganker? That speaks volumes of her supporters.

I wonder, if there's some organised opposition and I don't mean those gankers, but simply players/groups, who are not so brainwashed and want her arrested and properly judged in front of a court - be it Federation or Imperium allied pilots/groups.
 
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I hope everyone here knows that healing beams only heal someone if you're in a wing with them. If you see Salome or any other person you wish to defend and shoot them while not in their wing, YOU WILL BE DEALING DAMAGE!

I can see something else happening too. In the confusion of the battle, commanders shooting at ships winged with Salome that are trying to heal her shields, thinking that they are attacking her assailants.
 
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Story wise... why would CMDRs be trying to kill them all?

A lot of CMDR's role play hard core Fed/Imp CMDR's, and such a CMDR's belief system would revolve doing what is best for the faction they serve - and the faction wants Salome dead.

Z...
 
A lot of CMDR's role play hard core Fed/Imp CMDR's, and such a CMDR's belief system would revolve doing what is best for the faction they serve - and the faction wants Salome dead.

Z...

2 mill bounty is't that bad either.
If you role play a bounty hunter or enjoy PvP bounty hunting, it's a tempting target.

Bobba Fet would be all over it. ;)
 
Had the same problem. Must have past it just above 1000Ls. To my luck, the CMDR i met at the Zurara few days ago (can you believe it? how are the odds? :eek:) was at the ship and could guide me in with wing-beacon.

And just for those who want to go there in Solo or PG in an unshielded Exploration ship... Don't!!!
I dropped at the ship and it was pitch black ahead! I got dropped right into the front-shield without a chance to steer away and smashed right into it. I love shields! :D

Found it, the ship was awesome... until epic pro skill git gud FDLs and Vettes came. Recommend going in Solo or PG if you wanna check it out, unless you wanna go for it, the place is like a CZ.
 
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Story wise... why would CMDRs be trying to kill them all?

I think that's the wrong question. Story wise, why would you NOT want to kill Salomé?

The most positive position I can imagine is "don't care what she does", the most sensible one is "kill her before she causes the death of even more people".

Without looking at lore and story, then yes - supporting her is the logical thing to do.
 
On the topic of how the 29th event will go, I suspect it will go in one of two ways, and there will be salt whatever.

If the lead characters are killed quickly I don't think the event will have been a failure, as this has been signposted as a possible outcome from the start. But it will be a bit like a highly billed boxing match, which has had weeks of build up and drama, that is then over in the first 20 seconds of round 1. It will have delivered what it said it was going to deliver, but people will be disappointed and start threads criticising the whole plan.

The other way I see it going is that the lead characters breeze through the whole event and jump along there path from A to B with a whole Benny Hill like entourage following (literally) in their wake, with occasional fights amongst themselves. In this scenario people will complain it was too hard to disrupt or it was just a linier chase and nothing really happened.

Either way I am sure Drew and the others who have put time and effort into organising this will get flamed in some way. Fortunately I am sure they all have thick skins.

For my part I intend to enjoy it in whatever form it takes.

Listen if either Salomes wing or Yuris wing get caught out id be very surprised, Its going to be so hard to catch a wing that is just jumping from location to location.

On the day Sap Core will enjoy the PvP out in open lys away from the posse.

The hardest thing is going to know who to kill and who not to kill although there will hopefully be a solution to this, scrolling through a list of names isnt going to work, we will be kill first check list later.

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I think that's the wrong question. Story wise, why would you NOT want to kill Salomé?

The most positive position I can imagine is "don't care what she does", the most sensible one is "kill her before she causes the death of even more people".

Without looking at lore and story, then yes - supporting her is the logical thing to do.

I want her to survive, Im not a CoR fan girl I just want to know whats gone on in the past.

Once she survives, which she will I hope she reveals what we need to know and leaves things with Raan, from there I hope she becomes a Space Hippy and joins me and Tinkerbell Jet up in Quince for a few Lavian brandys

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2 mill bounty is't that bad either.
If you role play a bounty hunter or enjoy PvP bounty hunting, it's a tempting target.

Bobba Fet would be all over it. ;)

2m.... pfffft im offering 200m
 
Bit annoyed that the Gen ship gets a more realistic look, Zarura was fully working when it should have been dead.

It seems that the Rift mystery isnt as important as Fdevs story plotting.

No wonder Drew is pulling his hair out, I'm sure both storys are great but I think Fdev have rushed the rift mystery into submission so they can move on quickly. I can understand their reasons but its a bit disappointing being a rifter.

At the same time it gives us another conspiracy to work on, Black Net will be all over this.
 
I think that's the wrong question. Story wise, why would you NOT want to kill Salomé?

The most positive position I can imagine is "don't care what she does", the most sensible one is "kill her before she causes the death of even more people".

Without looking at lore and story, then yes - supporting her is the logical thing to do.

May I? I think I can think of a reason to let her speak.

She's on a mission she believes will right a great wrong. She's willing to die in order that the message is heard, she's putting everything she has onto one throw of the dice, this is her "Alamo" moment. I can respect that regardless of my own opinions on the right or wrong that she is to reveal/would like to reveal. If you can't see where that appeals to the spirit within, then few can help you.
If all you have to offer is "I fight for the "whatever" and don't ask why." then you are a poor soldier indeed, because it is a soldiers DUTY to question bad orders. The answer to a question can never be "I was just following orders." because that's the Nuremberg Defence, it didn't work then, it won't work now. If freedom of speech has any meaning left in 3303 then she has the right to speak, we have the right to listen and THEN make a decision, to do it any other way is wrong on any level you care to mention. You don't need any lore to decide, you don't need logic, you just need to know you are still human.

If we kill her before she speaks, we have abandoned any pretence of freedom of rule of law and justice. She may well die, possibly justifiably, but even the condemned get the chance of "Any last words."
 
Yep... What do you wanna know?

Nothing just interested, might head out there later but I have some engineering tweaks to do for the 29th.

I seen Ants video and it looks interesting as I've been looking for the Gen ships, I thought the Gen ships may have been part of the Rift mystery at one point. ( Drew kinda said No )

Well its part of Black Nets next mandate so should be fun

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May I? I think I can think of a reason to let her speak.

She's on a mission she believes will right a great wrong. She's willing to die in order that the message is heard, she's putting everything she has onto one throw of the dice, this is her "Alamo" moment. I can respect that regardless of my own opinions on the right or wrong that she is to reveal/would like to reveal. If you can't see where that appeals to the spirit within, then few can help you.
If all you have to offer is "I fight for the "whatever" and don't ask why." then you are a poor soldier indeed, because it is a soldiers DUTY to question bad orders. The answer to a question can never be "I was just following orders." because that's the Nuremberg Defence, it didn't work then, it won't work now. If freedom of speech has any meaning left in 3303 then she has the right to speak, we have the right to listen and THEN make a decision, to do it any other way is wrong on any level you care to mention. You don't need any lore to decide, you don't need logic, you just need to know you are still human.

If we kill her before she speaks, we have abandoned any pretence of freedom of rule of law and justice. She may well die, possibly justifiably, but even the condemned get the chance of "Any last words."

To be fair she is a bit of entitled Imperial Emo brat but with a bit of guidance she has become an improved person. She has information I think we all need to hear. Only Extremist Imperials will try and stop her. Feds seem not too bothered and she has a lot of Alliance support ( and Imp support I might add. )

Sap Cores only concern is with Yuri Nakamura, he is our guy now.

If he doesn't make it then we will feel it will be a Sap Core failure.
 
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Just a warning to people looking for the generation ship, dropping into the instance dumps you right next to the ship and it is completely powered down barring a few blinking navigation lights. Be careful or you could run right into it.
 
From my characters point of view she's a traitor and a terrorist. Regardless of what information she claims to have the ends never justify the means and she needs to answer for her crimes. It would be better to take her alive for trial but history has demonstrated the dangers of that. Kill on sight.
 
From my characters point of view she's a traitor and a terrorist. Regardless of what information she claims to have the ends never justify the means and she needs to answer for her crimes. It would be better to take her alive for trial but history has demonstrated the dangers of that. Kill on sight.

A very good reason, Im sure your master Darth Va I mean Denton Patreus will be happy with your choice
 
Bit annoyed that the Gen ship gets a more realistic look, Zarura was fully working when it should have been dead.

It seems that the Rift mystery isnt as important as Fdevs story plotting.

No wonder Drew is pulling his hair out, I'm sure both storys are great but I think Fdev have rushed the rift mystery into submission so they can move on quickly. I can understand their reasons but its a bit disappointing being a rifter.

At the same time it gives us another conspiracy to work on, Black Net will be all over this.


I don't know if you're aware how long the Rift stuff has been in the game and how closely they worked on it with Drew, but it seems like they put a lot of specific details following Drew's word. So, If the Zurara looks alive then it's probably on purpose.

Also, The Zarura may be fully working for a reason that we haven't worked out yet. It's obvious there's enough content there and the community gave up searching for it too soon in the previous years. Now with the MEgaships and new developments, there's only going to be more content which calls for more indepth searching of the areas.
 
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