THE FORMIDINE RIFT MYSTERY (Part 4)

Did anyone noted that Salomé met CoR the 29th at around 17:00 at Tionisla and Raan Corsen stayed at Tionisla the same day during about 30 minutes while Salomé was blown up, before he jumped to Teorge ?
So, what Raan Corsen did at Tionisla during all this time ?

From what DrewW said they were trying to get TOW Cobra to instance so it could broadcast a message about the Teorge logs, but couldn't do it so had to go to Teorge to highlight them.

Edit: Ninjad again!
 
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I've found another potential player in the game "Interpol" I'd never heard of them before. Evidently they are the Alliance secret cops. Maybe they'll crop up at some point *shrugs*
 
I've found another potential player in the game "Interpol" I'd never heard of them before. Evidently they are the Alliance secret cops. Maybe they'll crop up at some point *shrugs*

I've seen them mentioned recently (unsure if it was on the forum or as a destination beacon for a passenger mission). I didn't realise they were an Alliance lot though, I just assumed it was an extention of present day Interpol :D.
 
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A while back Wace from Canonn, decoded and triangulated signals from the unknown probes to be pointing back to their home system, which he calculated as being Col 70 Sector FY-N C21-3. As you all know Col 70 sector is in the same neighbourhood as Salomé started her chase on Saturday. It's also where wreaken corp are doing other sneaky things. Would I be getting too tinfoily in suggesting all these mysteries are intertwined as different faces of the same dice?

https://www.reddit.com/r/EliteDangerous/comments/4yn08y/col_70_sector_fyn_c213/

I would say that has a very low tinfoil count.

Well... to a certain extent anyway. The sheer size of Col 70 and the lack of any specific locations other than Col 70 Sector FY-N C21-3 means that tying two things together just because they're in Col 70 is a bit meaningless. Salome's stuff was in kind of in the vicinity of Col 70 Sector FY-N C21-3, but only given the size of Col 70. It's not really close enough to make a connection.

However, a private company having access to Col 70 systems and not going to Col 70 Sector FY-N C21-3 is so far fetched it's ridiculous.

So yeah, I'd say it's pretty certain that there's at least some connections going on.

Oh, and if Melville was correct about the density of Guardian sites increasing the closer to the centre of the Guardian bubble then Col 70 Sector FY-N C21-3 might be closer to the centre of the Guardian bubble than the original ruins site. (It was definitely closer when I checked, but there's been a lot of sites discovered since and I haven't checked if the 'centre' has moved.)
 
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Ok, now i will drop some weird thinking here.

So, the Dynasty-mission was abandoned. Why? Maybe they think now they stand a chance, like a real one, in whatever is coming. All this rush for Meta-Alloys? They can be used for protection as we know. But why not make weapons out of them? We humans try to make weapons out of nearly everything we discover for a long time now. What if Salome actually attacked something in Col 70 with this stuff?

Feds and Imps are harvesting the stuff in the Pleiades (why else protecting it?) and the Alliance just started in the California Nebula. So when the time comes, they will be asking the Pilots Federation for support, as more guns makes it more spectacular.

Maybe thatswhy they never used the results of Dynasty to begin with?
 
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A while back Wace from Canonn, decoded and triangulated signals from the unknown probes to be pointing back to their home system, which he calculated as being Col 70 Sector FY-N C21-3. As you all know Col 70 sector is in the same neighbourhood as Salomé started her chase on Saturday. It's also where wreaken corp are doing other sneaky things. Would I be getting too tinfoily in suggesting all these mysteries are intertwined as different faces of the same dice?

https://www.reddit.com/r/EliteDangerous/comments/4yn08y/col_70_sector_fyn_c213/

My vote is that it's all connected in some way, but they won't let us see the connections...or most of the puzzle...and you only get to figure it out if you can do the cryptic Times crossword in sanscrit and have a PHD in astrophysics.

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Ok, now i will drop some weird thinking here.

So, the Dynasty-mission was abandoned. Why? Maybe they think now they stand a chance, like a real one, in whatever is coming. All this rush for Meta-Alloys? They can be used for protection as we know. But why not make weapons out of them? We humans try to make weapons out of nearly everything we discover for a long time now. What if Salome actually attacked something in Col 70 with this stuff?

Feds and Imps are harvesting the stuff in the Pleiades (why else protecting it?) and the Alliance just started in the California Nebula. So when the time comes, they will be asking the Pilots Federation for support, as more guns makes it more spectacular.

Maybe thatswhy they never used the results of Dynasty to begin with?



Or...each of the powers want the new weaponry/armour so they can stomp the other two.
 
Or...each of the powers want the new weaponry/armour so they can stomp the other two.

But why? It's not like resources are rare in this big galaxy. Yeah, fighting is fun and fuels the industry... But does not work when the other side disappears. Rebecca hinted at this cold war to be fake for the build up.
 
Ok, now i will drop some weird thinking here.

So, the Dynasty-mission was abandoned. Why? Maybe they think now they stand a chance, like a real one, in whatever is coming. All this rush for Meta-Alloys? They can be used for protection as we know. But why not make weapons out of them? We humans try to make weapons out of nearly everything we discover for a long time now. What if Salome actually attacked something in Col 70 with this stuff?

Feds and Imps are harvesting the stuff in the Pleiades (why else protecting it?) and the Alliance just started in the California Nebula. So when the time comes, they will be asking the Pilots Federation for support, as more guns makes it more spectacular.

Maybe thatswhy they never used the results of Dynasty to begin with?

Assuming you got all the back details right, there's another interpretation. Maybe the powers themselves are behind Dynasty and maybe they gave up on it because they struck a deal with the Thargoids that would let them retain some position while agreeing to not put up a fight. Maybe they're protecting the Barnacles for the Thargoids. Maybe they collected meta alloys to turn over to the aliens so other human groups in the know can't build weapons. Maybe all those warships are to suppress any human uprising.

Of course, I have an extreme distrust of authority so I'm a little biased.
 
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Assuming you got all the back details right, there's another interpretation. Maybe the powers themselves are behind Dynasty and maybe they gave up on it because they struck a deal with the Thargoids that would let them retain some position while agreeing to not put up a fight. Maybe they're protecting the Barnacles for the Thargoids. Maybe they collected meta alloys to turn over to the aliens so other human groups in the know can't build weapons. Maybe all those warships are to suppress any human uprising.

Of course, I have an extreme distrust of authority so I'm a little biased.

I think thats also a valid theory. Very dark, but valid. In that case we have to fight them alone. Ok, bring it, weird dark organisation... now!
 
Assuming you got all the back details right, there's another interpretation. Maybe the powers themselves are behind Dynasty and maybe they gave up on it because they struck a deal with the Thargoids that would let them retain some position while agreeing to not put up a fight. Maybe they're protecting the Barnacles for the Thargoids. Maybe they collected meta alloys to turn over to the aliens so other human groups in the know can't build weapons. Maybe all those warships are to suppress any human uprising.

Of course, I have an extreme distrust of authority so I'm a little biased.

It's still valid, and a good summation of the mentality of many, many, many politicians. I'll not poo-poo your theory.
 
Ok, now i will drop some weird thinking here.

So, the Dynasty-mission was abandoned. Why? Maybe they think now they stand a chance, like a real one, in whatever is coming.

My interpretation is three fold.
  1. The DynastyShips were simply exploratory. Their job was to quietly find possible bolt holes, mark them, then die so that word that something bad was coming and the plans for those areas would remain secret
  2. The threat, whatever it is moves slowly. If the threat actually has fast jump capabilities there's no way to move to something like Colonia or the Rift and hope you have a chance to rebuild. You have days not years or centuries. If you're simply relying on it being a secret you're humped, their location is being broadcast on Galnet nearly daily.
  3. The threat, whatever it is moves quickly and the area in the rift was supposed to be a secret bolt hole. Recent events have rendered that useless and we have ourselves to blame.

Possibly the plan was that they remain a secret so if the bubble was discovered and wiped out there would be pockets hidden that might rebuild. But that's a fools hope now, defending the bubble is the only reasonable answer.
 
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I think thats also a valid theory. Very dark, but valid. In that case we have to fight them alone. Ok, bring it, weird dark organisation... now!

That would imply that the main powers are in league with each other and the thargoids... Or factions within the powers. Or perhaps the more secretive organisations we know of are in that position themselves, and protected certain thargoid (or other) locations by sabotaging Dynasty with their own pre-infiltrated operatives. Both the pilots federation (permit lockers?) and the dark wheel share the same system. And the latter seem very much harder to rank up with.

What were the ultimate Dynasty destinations - not where they were stopped?
 
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Don't get me started on Raan Corsen. He was the key, he had those Exodus files, Salome was just fluff. I'm sooooo angry at no word of those files. :mad::mad::mad:

They probably told exactly the same as the listening posts, in different words.
More important is why Meta-Drive had them?
 
Very impressive discovery count! So far I've only been first to discover asteroids in the Coal Sack and that's about it. And I'm not trying to argue, I just didn't see what you'd consider as "exploring" to being what I'd consider to be "exploring", because it looked to me like you were "exploring" in the sense of going from point A to point B and nothing in between. I'm pretty fresh to the game and still haven't burned out on scanning everything I see and landing on everything and driving sideways on low grav planets yet, so I'm not at the stage where I just want to get from one side of the galaxy to the other in a quick fasion.

Ok, and I didn't mean to sound to confrontational about it either (lest bursting Harley Quinn's bubble about seeing me as one of the more friendly contributors to the thread :D). Also, to be fair, those are just systems I've visited and uploaded to EDSM rather that fully scanned (some are likely still completely untagged). I'm currently on my way back to Barnard's Loop as well, this time in a heavily armed Python. And that last trip, I was trying to visit the asteroid bases then return prior to the event).

'Exploring' is a term with a wide range of meaning - and nobody (on this thread at least) gets to tell anyone they're doing it wrong, so play nice kiddies :D

My take (for what it's worth):
If I take a plane to New York and wander around the city, I'm exploring it. I'm pretty sure that somebody found it before me, but as long as I'm going someplace I haven't been before, then I consider that exploring.

On that note, I've been exploring the Bubble recently. I found a system called 'Two Ladies'. I'm willing to bet most people haven't heard of it, let alone visited it - and of those who did visit, even fewer will be aware that there's a pirate faction there called...


I completely missed the Two Ladies Boys bit first time round too, was that pre-occupied, that is humorous. Not that I would know - Vulcan's have their humour glands removed at birth to make them more dispassionate scientists :D
 
Ok, now i will drop some weird thinking here.

So, the Dynasty-mission was abandoned. Why? Maybe they think now they stand a chance, like a real one, in whatever is coming. All this rush for Meta-Alloys? They can be used for protection as we know. But why not make weapons out of them? We humans try to make weapons out of nearly everything we discover for a long time now. What if Salome actually attacked something in Col 70 with this stuff?

Feds and Imps are harvesting the stuff in the Pleiades (why else protecting it?) and the Alliance just started in the California Nebula. So when the time comes, they will be asking the Pilots Federation for support, as more guns makes it more spectacular.

Maybe thatswhy they never used the results of Dynasty to begin with?

It wasn'r abandoned, it was completed. Beacons in place and region mapped.
All ready for the Exodus.
The fleet of Mothership is standing by. ;)
 
It wasn'r abandoned, it was completed. Beacons in place and region mapped.
All ready for the Exodus.
The fleet of Mothership is standing by. ;)

Although, thinking about it, the conspirators were trying to remove evidence of it... but the settlements were left in tact... hadn't considered this before, but they were trying to destroy the ships - why leave the surface bases...?
 
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It wasn'r abandoned, it was completed. Beacons in place and region mapped.
All ready for the Exodus.
The fleet of Mothership is standing by. ;)

The thing is, you can't build new "bubbles" fast. Terraforming does need time, so does station-building. Sure the ships are a start, but one from scratch.

I just think that this plan was abandoned, because something changed. Significantly. Or maybe i just chase a theory because stuff is not in game yet.[blah]
 
Although, thinking about it, the conspirators were trying to remove evidence of it... but the settlements were left in tact... hadn't considered this before, but they were trying to destroy the ships - why leave the surface bases...?

I guess they destroyed the ships to make sure no one returns and tells about the settlements...
 
For all we know there's an Earthlike or two out in the Rift with fully built installations on their surface, staffed and waiting for the Powers That Be to move there when the lavian brandy hits the fan.
 
Just my two cents.
The old lady said to Salomé "and they thought the Thargoids were trouble".
Now we assume that the Dynasty expeditions took place to have a new place for humans in case of a new Thargoid threat.
So in my opinion there must be something bigger behind all that than Thargoids and some shadowy organizations pulling the strings in wars, etc.
What are your thoughts?
 
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