Quince is even more broken than we tought

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Yer what ever you want to call it is fine by me.
Ill just go by definitions and report when it seems needed.

I think automagically showing back up at a star port after ship destruction is an exploit. Best report that.
I think griefing at CGs is an exploit. Best report that. O wait they did and it does not matter.
I think making more than 10 credits per trade run is an exploit. Best report it.

At what point does your hypocrisy and self righteous attitude require all to conform to your point of view?

I however do not like to speak for everyone because you know I am not everyone. However the white knight, call em as I see em, contrived facade that you are attempting to display is sad at best. Especially coming from someone who knows nothing about it and has never done it apparently.

If you profited in any way from your proposed exploit or any past exploits then you are just a hypocrite. If you tested it over time and actually did the proposed exploit for an hour to "test" this theory, then you have profited from it and again are hypocritical.

Because of people of your type, exploration gave you peanuts as far as discovery was concerned. At the beginning it was viable and then for 2 whole years it became worthless. The people who made their money and Made it to Elite decided they wanted to be kings of the hill so they started calling working in game mechanics exploits. It was not until recently that you could make money being an explorer again.

Long range trading was killed by these same types. Now you would be lucky to get a mission inside the bubble for a 1mil even if you are Elite rated.

Exploit:
to utilize, especially for profit; turn to practical account. Better shut off the BSG and all missions. There should be no money making in this game.

(in a video game) the use of a bug or flaw in game design to a player’s advantage or to the disadvantage of other players. Can you explain how making money at more than a snails pace is to the disadvantage of other players? You can't and there is no butthurt sentiment you can attempt to jam down peoples throats to change their mind.

If an Elite Pilot wants to make 20 million in an hour of gameplay, then they are entitled to it. It only took them many Hundreds of hours just to earn that title. But then again you know better than anyone else dont you. An exploit is a bug or flaw Neither of which is Quince. Closing all avenues to make money to all players accept yourself is sad.
 
I bet FD gets right on fixin that exploit... that they set up in first place.

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If an Elite Pilot wants to make 20 million in an hour of gameplay, then they are entitled to it. It only took them many Hundreds of hours just to earn that title. But then again you know better than anyone else dont you. An exploit is a bug or flaw Neither of which is Quince. Closing all avenues to make money to all players accept yourself is sad.

Other people having fun: exploit.
 
I think automagically showing back up at a star port after ship destruction is an exploit. Best report that.
I think griefing at CGs is an exploit. Best report that. O wait they did and it does not matter.
I think making more than 10 credits per trade run is an exploit. Best report it.

At what point does your hypocrisy and self righteous attitude require all to conform to your point of view?

I however do not like to speak for everyone because you know I am not everyone. However the white knight, call em as I see em, contrived facade that you are attempting to display is sad at best. Especially coming from someone who knows nothing about it and has never done it apparently.

If you profited in any way from your proposed exploit or any past exploits then you are just a hypocrite. If you tested it over time and actually did the proposed exploit for an hour to "test" this theory, then you have profited from it and again are hypocritical.

Because of people of your type, exploration gave you peanuts as far as discovery was concerned. At the beginning it was viable and then for 2 whole years it became worthless. The people who made their money and Made it to Elite decided they wanted to be kings of the hill so they started calling working in game mechanics exploits. It was not until recently that you could make money being an explorer again.

Long range trading was killed by these same types. Now you would be lucky to get a mission inside the bubble for a 1mil even if you are Elite rated.

Exploit:
to utilize, especially for profit; turn to practical account. Better shut off the BSG and all missions. There should be no money making in this game.

(in a video game) the use of a bug or flaw in game design to a player’s advantage or to the disadvantage of other players. Can you explain how making money at more than a snails pace is to the disadvantage of other players? You can't and there is no butthurt sentiment you can attempt to jam down peoples throats to change their mind.

If an Elite Pilot wants to make 20 million in an hour of gameplay, then they are entitled to it. It only took them many Hundreds of hours just to earn that title. But then again you know better than anyone else dont you. An exploit is a bug or flaw Neither of which is Quince. Closing all avenues to make money to all players accept yourself is sad.


Maybe your right and it was an intended game mechanic to have the Planetary Scan missions create multiple scan data point 3d objects in the same 3d space.
If that was the intended design, so be it.
 
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Yeh its stuff like this that is ending my love affair with this game.

Keep it up ED, Eventually no one will be playing.

The cheats burn the game out in weeks and the long term players give up because effort has no meaning.

Dig into BGS play! Every effort will always have meaning. BGS, the true end game.
 
Maybe your right and it was an intended game mechanic to have the Planetary Scan missions create multiple scan data point 3d objects in the same 3d space.
If that was the intended design, so be it.

None of those missions state that the scan points are at separate locations. They just state scan points in general.

The reason why Draconis exploit was a real exploit was because the game was broken and misidentifying skimmers as ships and counting that toward kill total. They have no HP to speak of and what should have taken 5 to 6 hours to complete was taking 30 minutes. That is an exploit because the game was broken.

Ceos Sothis, Robbigo, and Fehu were never game breaking/bug exploits. They were lucrative. Killing those locations have in turned ruined trading missions in the bubble.

Not to mention you can still find dozens of A,B,A trading loops that will net a large ship 2.8 to 3 million per loop. Each run taking less than 5 minutes. That is 46 million an hour using the base trade mechanic. So how is that any different? So doing the Quince missions is approximately 15 minutes faster at making the same money as normal commodity trading within the bubble. Its not game breaking and its not a bug.
 
None of those missions state that the scan points are at separate locations. They just state scan points in general.

While that's true, I think it is fairly obvious that it is a bug. However, it is certainly not an exploit. To suggest it is an exploit is suggesting that you should not take missions at Quince because then you are cheating. That is patently false.
 
Not to mention you can still find dozens of A,B,A trading loops that will net a large ship 2.8 to 3 million per loop. Each run taking less than 5 minutes. That is 46 million an hour using the base trade mechanic. So how is that any different? So doing the Quince missions is approximately 15 minutes faster at making the same money as normal commodity trading within the bubble. Its not game breaking and its not a bug.

Do you happen to know trade routes in the bubble like this, or are they only outside?

Been flying around systems, currently at barnard's star trying to find good ones, but just can't find ones that are nearly as lucrative as that :s

Yeah yeah, it's o-topic question I know, but there's nothing more to be said about Quince now, those who dislike it will not change minds and continue to be negative about it, those who like it will just keep using it.
 
Yea, I remember Dom saying that. I do agree that it's a bit silly to complete 20 missions with one pass. However, Dom also said it was difficult to come to a decision on how to address it. Which is a little odd if more than just he considers it an exploit. Still odd when not a single announcement was made telling people to not use it until it is addressed. The problem I have with people piling on with this is it turns into this thing where the entirety of the ordeal is an exploit. Really, it isn't, as there's only 1 component in the system that isn't intended, that being 1 objective counting for all held missions. This piling on, over the years, has given me the impression that people think that anything that makes you more than A-B trading or bounty grinding is an exploit.

I do hope that once that component is addressed, that they will also remove the 3 mission limit as that was just a bandaid fix that didn't address the main issue, which is consequently why this is still so profitable. The BGS just decided that all 7 factions would give you scan missions (btw whats up with that? why can't I get a board full of stuff I want to do anywhere else?) Otherwise, we may as well just not be allowed to have 20 missions at all, which would be the ultimate fix, yet still wouldn't have addressed the issue.
 
This whole credits thing is totally broken anyway. We should have a purely rep based system that unlocks items and ships as we advance, and specific ship upgrades as we gain XP for each ship.

FD should also seriously consider a reward cache system or similar, where caches could be earned for levelling up or completing missions that would contain useful or fun (and sometimes rare and exotic) items. These items might include new paint jobs, weapon colours, sound effect mods or even engineered modules.

Caches could also be purchased from the shop for a nominal fee, so people with less time could buy them instead and not feel left out.

No....just no. There is enough RNG as it is without this "idea"
 
Yeh its stuff like this that is ending my love affair with this game.

Keep it up ED, Eventually no one will be playing.

The cheats burn the game out in weeks and the long term players give up because effort has no meaning.

If you think of it another way, I see this as a way for the players that are poor at combat have easy access to rebuy credits. Balances things out a bit between good and bad players.
 
Isn't the really big money only accessible by Pioneer level explorers anyways?

I did the scan missions, and made 100 million CR. Now I'm out flying my private shuttle service (Adder with a single C3 Eco passenger cabin). Having a nest egg there let's me not worry about money, and just do fun stuff.

Even if someone made billions doing this, it really doesn't impact my game at all. In fact I hardly ever see anyone outside of these hot beds of credit making.

I can't get fired up over it at all.

Peace!!
 
I've always seen these things as [noob]. Honestly don't see why people have an issue with other people being rich. It doesn't really impact their game in any meaningful way and you are free to use or not use them at your discretion. I think the game needs more diversity in it's rewards. I prefer an imbalance as it's more accurate to reality.
 
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