Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 10 - The Canonn

[CMDR Davanix]

Tbh this could also be an older thargoid mothership that was carrying eggs (could be crashed and maybe be seen in the trailer with salome) those eggs have hatched and the offspring have flown the minu ships out to plant, harvest and repair/or feed said mothership/mother.

Remember if these are thargoids they either have mini ship drones or are the mini ships and have a mothership somewhere.

Thinfoil is strong with this theory however a giant thargoid mothership crash and has somehow reactivated with old intentions (being hive minded) the babys would already know what to do from birth/hatching.

 

[Crazy_Harvey]

Tbh this could also be an older thargoid mothership that was carrying eggs (could be crashed and maybe be seen in the trailer with salome) those eggs have hatched and the offspring have flown the minu ships out to plant, harvest and repair/or feed said mothership/mother.

Remember if these are thargoids they either have mini ship drones or are the mini ships and have a mothership somewhere.

Thinfoil is strong with this theory however a giant thargoid mothership crash and has somehow reactivated with old intentions (being hive minded) the babys would already know what to do from birth/hatching.

This has been the theory i've been leaning towards, and i believe there may be multiple of these ships sending out scouts to gather resources/information.

It's also possible one of these ships has fully recovered, and is now very angry with the federation for some reason. If my memory is serving me right, the Pleiades Resource Enterprise controls several places within the col 70 sector, and they are aligned with the federation?

 

[PanPiper.]

Yes I'm also curious to see the MA Pods on same angle looks similar.

Here is a closer shot : http://imgur.com/vTSzq2r

The side looks flat with no lines but it could be due to the bad resolution.
I may be able to obtain better rimage using another screen tomorow...
This was was on laptop 720p.

OK , going with egg sacs then.
As close as i could get , and still different, and yet share similarities.

 

[Virgile]

OK , going with egg sacs then.
As close as i could get , and still different, and yet share similarities.
http://i.imgur.com/vTSzq2r.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/Qk99tmlm.jpg

Thank you. I've been able to take a picture with better resolution( would be even better with 4k screen).

To me they look like oval grey/beige egg shape, that would be attached to the ground with the same black organic goo matter used to build the ground walls ( Alien/Giger style).

Here it is :

Spoiler

http://imgur.com/ItjPv0I
http://imgur.com/rYaLSJQ
http://imgur.com/OldW4sh

Also noticed some materials that could be some kind of spider web :
http://imgur.com/fu692nX
http://imgur.com/eXlX37S

Won't be surprised if thargoïds have 8 legs.

And some gas diffusor that could suggest the place has an atmosphere, and also suggest that those are no ruins but a place that is currently used for a purpose. And you can't really see it on a picture but if you look at the video up left on the wall there is a kind of circle hole looking like an air vent, with gas coming from it :
http://imgur.com/V4tghQp

The 3 flexible pipes on the wall (both sides) could be for power supply, red light on the left that could be a teleporter from what we get from gamerevolution article, or it could be for whatever fluids :
http://imgur.com/y2LI6l5

 

[Thatchinho]

So we have a precedent for Barnacles extracting material from a planet to create something useful for the Thargoid ships (as well as meta alloys - which appear to be nothing but a byproduct from whatever the Barnacle is doing). It must be something about the confluence of planetary makeup, in conjunction with the nebulae, make that possible - surely?

Said it about a week ago as part of a larger post but the reason for barnacles being in Nebulae would most likely be that in Nebulae, the planets/moons would be picking up the material of the nebula as they move through it. Rare minerals would therefore be present in the surface soil/dust layers and can be extracted easily by biological mechanisms, meaning they can be obtained easily without the need for deep sub-surface mining.

 

[Factabulous]

Can someone link the 3d map of guardian sites? I can't seem to find it...

*I mean the sites plotted on galaxy map.

The old canonn one appears to have gone, the new one is down but has a link to the beta map which appears to be up (I can't tell as my phone screen isn't big enough to make it usable) : https://map.canonn.technology - hope it works for you

Edit: link to non beta map given as it's bound to be up by the time prior read the link

 

[zorbaq]

So, what are the community's best bets for the location of Alien Breeding Grounds (a nursery?) other than the permit-locked HIP 22460?

 

[Jmanis]

So, what are the community's best bets for the location of Alien Breeding Grounds (a nursery?) other than the permit-locked HIP 22460?

Just a note on this... I know a lot of people are saying "We know where it is, but it's permit locked etc etc", and I'm not for a moment saying this is unlikely or not the case.

But we don't actually "Know" this until someone's physically gone there and seen it. And in all likelihood this is possibly not the only place one of these exists, unless the Thargoids have developed vast capabilities with a very tiny footprint that's previously been undetected. If the Thargoids really are a potentially superior threat to us and possibly even wiped out the guardians, they can't have got there without a presence at least as large as our bubble or that of the guardians.

In other words, there's a possibility HIP 22460 is permit locked not because a surface Thargoid environment is present on it, but because it ties into a greater Thargoid presence developing closer to our bubble.

Take all this with the grain of salt it deserves from someone like myself who has no interest in doing needle/haystack searches with minimal information or ingame tools other than the MK1 eyeball.

EDIT: And failing any of that, they're simply not in the game at all yet.

 

[zorbaq]

Just a note on this... I know a lot of people are saying "We know where it is, but it's permit locked etc etc", and I'm not for a moment saying this is unlikely or not the case.

But we don't actually "Know" this until someone's physically gone there and seen it. And in all likelihood this is possibly not the only place one of these exists, unless the Thargoids have developed vast capabilities with a very tiny footprint that's previously been undetected. If the Thargoids really are a potentially superior threat to us and possibly even wiped out the guardians, they can't have got there without a presence at least as large as our bubble or that of the guardians.

In other words, there's a possibility HIP 22460 is permit locked not because a surface Thargoid environment is present on it, but because it ties into a greater Thargoid presence developing closer to our bubble.

Take all this with the grain of salt it deserves from someone like myself who has no interest in doing needle/haystack searches with minimal information or ingame tools other than the MK1 eyeball.

EDIT: And failing any of that, they're simply not in the game at all yet.

I agree with you on that. Remember when we thought the Synuefe Ruins where unique?

 

[Virgile]

Do we have any word from FD, saying if those sites could be found in the current build or not? A confirmation would help getting motivated...

 

[Jmanis]

Do we have any word from FD, saying if those sites could be found in the current build or not? A confirmation would help getting motivated...

At this stage, I'd settle simply for an "Anomalies detected" message when honking the ADS. Doesn't say where or what they are, just that something's out there.

 

[Harry Kruth]

OK , going with egg sacs then.
As close as i could get , and still different, and yet share similarities.
http://i.imgur.com/vTSzq2r.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/Qk99tmlm.jpg

Maybe these help, I took them in 4k resolution on video and on monitor, it doesn't look very good but I don't think you can get much better from that video.

https://i.imgur.com/ybLzIwa.jpg (brightness enhanced)
https://i.imgur.com/hRY94oh.jpg

Whatever it is, they look a bit burrowed.. If someone dropped them hard or if they're burrowing I don't know..

 

[CmdrZaratan]

Do we have any word from FD, saying if those sites could be found in the current build or not? A confirmation would help getting motivated...

Not as such no. Definitely nothing that could be interpreted as a solid confirmation that scouring the planets in the Pleiades isn't a waste of time.

I think it's been long enough since 2.3 dropped that a pointed hint wouldn't be out of line, though we did recently get access to the static Federation wreckage site, confirmation the flower ships are Thargoid ships (on Galnet no less), and Thargoid ships visiting barnacles, so they may feel we can wait another couple of weeks before they need to give us more.

 

[Aldaris]

Said it about a week ago as part of a larger post but the reason for barnacles being in Nebulae would most likely be that in Nebulae, the planets/moons would be picking up the material of the nebula as they move through it. Rare minerals would therefore be present in the surface soil/dust layers and can be extracted easily by biological mechanisms, meaning they can be obtained easily without the need for deep sub-surface mining.

The very significant issue with this theory is that even the densest nebulae aren't very dense at all.

Another issue is stellar winds tend to keep interstellar particles out of a system.

 

[Jmanis]

Not as such no. Definitely nothing that could be interpreted as a solid confirmation that scouring the planets in the Pleiades isn't a waste of time.

I think it's been long enough since 2.3 dropped that a pointed hint wouldn't be out of line, though we did recently get access to the static Federation wreckage site, confirmation the flower ships are Thargoid ships (on Galnet no less), and Thargoid ships visiting barnacles, so they may feel we can wait another couple of weeks before they need to give us more.

Out of interest... this bit:

A short time later, Palin’s data was seized by Federal agents, who attempted to convey it to a Federal research facility.

I can't find any Galnet record of this occurring?

 

[Harry Kruth]

At this stage, I'd settle simply for an "Anomalies detected" message when honking the ADS. Doesn't say where or what they are, just that something's out there.

Yeah. I'd call that a Quality of Life update .. They're working on QoL right?

Hope they put in something that will at least show a big ancient ruin that clearly outputs energy as at least a blip on the scanner.. It didn't even register as interesting before Ram Tah added "Super Ruin Finder DLC" to ours.

 

[Virgile]

Maybe these help, I took them in 4k resolution on video and on monitor, it doesn't look very good but I don't think you can get much better from that video.

https://i.imgur.com/ybLzIwa.jpg (brightness enhanced)
https://i.imgur.com/hRY94oh.jpg

Whatever it is, they look a bit burrowed.. If someone dropped them hard or if they're burrowing I don't know..

Nice we could see even better than those are definitely new stuff.

 

[CMDR Alonso]

So, I suppose I'm stating the obvious and you guys already thought about this but maybe we should try looking at planets with fog more than the rest? I mean there are chances they only used the fog for that one trailer but since there are foggy planets all around the galaxy maybe FDev have chosen to plant the Thargoid bases on them.

 

[Tomtom]

Oh dear going full conspiracy theory right now, too - following on from the renewed interest I stoked the other day in Unknown Artefacts and Probes being human-made, as tools to try to discover the Thargoids and contain them before anybody else (i.e. we) did...

Those capships weren't attacked by Thargoids - but by the same shady organisation that's made the UAs and the UPs - to make it look like these flower ships we've been seeing (which until now have been completely harmless) are our enemy - when they're not (yet).

The damage to those ships? It might well be Thargoid in origin - but as a result of alien tech from the same source as that which would appear to have been incorporated into UAs and UPs. Explanation? Because those responsible are also the ones responsible for covering up our previous encounters with the Thargs, and are the only ones with access to science and tech gleaned from that period - and they are absolutely against any alien coexistence and will do anything to stoke human hatred of the aliens to cause all out war.

Granted - that basically recycles an old storyline, but it's like AC/DC: they might only have one song, but it's a pretty good one.

This is pretty much the way I'm leaning. It is consistent with the fact that - to date - not a single flower ship has been witnessed acting aggressively. In the hyperdiction sequence they seem to be merely curious, simply scanning us and moving on (assuming the "scan" isn't some kind of attack, of course); at the barnacle visits they appear to completely ignore us, even though human pilots have opened fire on them; in the distress call scenarios the flower ships are seen making a hasty exit, but again no attack has been observed; and at the destroyed cap ship site there are no flowers to be seen at all.


I'm also not convinced (yet) that the Thargoids created the barnacles. Sure, they have been seen harvesting them (um... well, it looks like that anyway) but so have we - mere interaction doesn't imply ownership.

Maybe the barnacles were created by a meaner and even more powerful species. Maybe the Thargoid deep harvesting method is more destructive than our harmless picking off of the waste products. Maybe when the mighty Barnacthulhu awakes he's going to be angry at them. Maybe the Thargoids will want our help.

That's the story I'd have written anyway

 

[Aldaris]

This is pretty much the way I'm leaning. It is consistent with the fact that - to date - not a single flower ship has been witnessed acting aggressively. In the hyperdiction sequence they seem to be merely curious, simply scanning us and moving on (assuming the "scan" isn't some kind of attack, of course); at the barnacle visits they appear to completely ignore us, even though human pilots have opened fire on them; in the distress call scenarios the flower ships are seen making a hasty exit, but again no attack has been observed; and at the destroyed cap ship site there are no flowers to be seen at all.


I'm also not convinced (yet) that the Thargoids created the barnacles. Sure, they have been seen harvesting them (um... well, it looks like that anyway) but so have we - mere interaction doesn't imply ownership.

Maybe the barnacles were created by a meaner and even more powerful species. Maybe the Thargoid deep harvesting method is more destructive than our harmless picking off of the waste products. Maybe when the mighty Barnacthulhu awakes he's going to be angry at them. Maybe the Thargoids will want our help.

That's the story I'd have written anyway

Shady organisation doesn't tie in with the Rift though.