Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 10 - The Canonn

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Jorki Rasalas

Jorki Rasalas
Cmdr Eran Mintor said:
Should there be a Guardian connection I'm more inclined to say the Thargoids may be created by the Guardians. It was mentioned earlier in this thread (forget by who) but the more I think about it the more sense it makes.

Guardians specialized in biological warfare. Initially I'd think of ways of altering genes or making viruses, but it would also make sense to make another intelligent creature that acted like a slave, hunting and harvesting for their creators. Guardians seem to have metallic structures while there is repeated mention of Thargoids having organic ships, and visual evidence of organic structures.

It seems a bit far-fetched but I suppose it's just an idea like any other.

edit: and would make sense that so much Thargoid tech deteriorates metallic ships/stations as the Guardians would have used the Thargoids against other Guardian factions.

edit 2: perhaps the barnacles are created by the guardians?
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I've been postulating this from the outset of the Guardians; one of the codex messages says Guardians engineered a warrior species to fight their battles & since I read that I thought Thargs were the obvious choice. The Guardians also had AI, & I guess it is possible that Thargs were taken over by the AI to create Klaxians vs Oresrians, but that's pure speculation with no evidence, although there does seem to be some evidence emerging fir adverse reaction of the UDevice to Guardian items (needs more testing before this can be confirmed!)
 
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Jmanis

Jmanis
Râgnôs said:
Perhaps if a group permanently removed the federal blockade?
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That's by the by though. I don't want the destination to be close... for the thrill and challenge it should be at least six or seven jumps away at 40LY, the sort of range where at some point you have to refuel a little (or pack some fuel tanks).

Also, hot tip if you're getting stuff out of the site... the UA/UL/UP doesn't need to be in cargo to open the door. You can jet it next to it and it stays open.
 

Jorki Rasalas

Jorki Rasalas
Henkka77 said:
I was thinking this..

If those are actual Thargoid bases, why theres no one to defend them? One would think that when you build a base, you defend it, simple as that.
They seem to be active, at least one of them, but still all we had was couple of Thargoid arrivals at the location scanning, or staring the SRV, but nothing more.

What if those are just scrapyards? They look like one. Thargoids might use them to salvage spare parts or something like that.

But i really, really doubt that those are actual Thargoid bases. Just my 2 c. :)
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The lore suggests mycoid attacked both Tharg technology and the Thargs themselves, so they might not be around here (yet...)
 

CMDR MadRaptor

CMDR MadRaptor
A couple thoughts coming to my mind and I'm sure have been covered....I'm starting to believe that there are just as many sites like this as there are ruin sites perhaps. Also, we found fungal trees around ruins, perhaps we will find another type of organics around these systems....time to do some searching.
 

Voz

Voz
So what are the scavangers doing? Are they taking apart the base for some reason or are they actually fixing them?
 

TheHavoc

TheHavoc
domaq said:
This post moves faster than the Guardian's interstellar FTL comms. Glad to "bump" your idea a bit further along. rep returned. :)
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Thanks man :) !

Edit: have to describe my feelings a bit, too: THANKS A LOT FD - I WAITED SINCE I STARTED THE GAME FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT ! I think many others did, so no wonder this thread explodes like I-don't-know-what !
 
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Momijisu

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CypherG said:
If that is the case, then someone who is over at the California nebula should find a system there that matches the map displayed in the image. I'm gonna try to break it down.


  • Seems to be a Single Star system
  • 9 Planetary bodies
  • Planet 5 has a body in its orbit or near it, possible speculations as to what it is
    • Body in orbit is a single moon
    • Body in orbit is Planet 6 and it is forming a barycenter with Planet 5
    • Body is just really close to it though not enough to form a barycenter
  • None of the planets seem to have rings
  • The four outer planets seem to be gas giants (though there can be margin for some of those to be brown dwarves and/or T Tauri stars)
  • The four inner planets (and the body orbiting the fifth planet) seem to be terrestrial worlds (planet 1 seems to be of considerable size assuming it isn't a gas giant)
  • Doesn't seem to be an asteroid belt in the system

This is just my guess on it
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It's Merope, It's 8 bodies with the 5th orbital ring being a binary.
 

CMDR MadRaptor

CMDR MadRaptor
With all these unknown objects and their damaging of ships, really wished we could try to get higher capacity CRCR's. I think if that CG were running today it would have done much better than it did when it first ran.
 

Factabulous

Factabulous
zorbaq said:
Anyone tried feeding the scavengers yet?
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Just tried that! Dropped an Ancient Relic in front of one - completely nonplussed (i.e. no reaction). Wonder what they scavenge?

Also successfully obtained the UL withouta UA/UP on board (just an Ancient Relic), can anyone confirm? ( I dropped the UA at the entrance to the UL area so it may still have been 'in range'.

Also just noticed I accidentally picked up the UL rather than the UP last night, so I guess I get to check out the UP acquisition strategies more soon than I had hoped :)
 

Moonlord

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Thargoid came back to 14909 base. Commanders Moonlord and A1isone from Paladin Consortium had visited site and A1isone came back from inside carrying UA and UP when thargoid ship came, scanned him and left.

Picture here.
http://aijaa.com/hYVNjv

I'll add videolink once it's processed.
 

Jorki Rasalas

Jorki Rasalas
Muetdhiver said:
Did FD state that at some point ? Do you have a reference/quote ?

Because I'd rather be sure than dive in blind in the tinfoil.

As an aside :

  • We do know that the UP uses octal numbers
  • We do know that barnacles are related to UP/UA
  • UA draw/monitor our ships
  • Barnacles extract usefull materials from the ground
  • Barnacles can be found in nebulas
  • UP points to Merope5c, UA points to Merope
  • UP measure planets using merope 5c as unit, and measure distance from Col 70 Sector FY-N C21-3
  • UA is found in the shell ~120 to 150 lyr from Merope, UP anywhere inside near Amonia.
  • All but once Thargoid facility are not operational.
  • Criters seems to scavenge the operational one.
  • First thargoid encounter was a scouting party that was repeled by INARA with the mycoid virus.

To me the whole thing looks like :

  • UA/UP are scouting/monitoring probes
  • The barnacles are seeded automated mining machines
  • Thargoids like nebulas for some reason
  • The new spectrogram contains references to two systems. The mystery so far (UP/UA) made reference to two systems : Merope and Col 70 Sect FY-N C21-3

To me, the whole thing makes me think of :

Some hundreds years ago, Thargoids sent a scouting party, or prospection party to nebulas in our area.
They start deploying von-neumann bio-machinery to establish an outpost and further infrastructures.
Things go south with the pink apes, ending up with the mycoid virus cripling most of the installations.
Some of the hosts are cripled but not dead, after scavenging stuff and a long recovery period, operation
of the von Neumann machineis resumed, UA are deployed for monitoring and UP for mapping potential thargformable amonias.

UL ? IMO the UL is the one used to call home...
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The key was indicated (text highlighted in green) in one of the newsletters last year, around when UPs were found. Haven't got the reference but if you search back through the last 50 pages someone posted it... or you could look at the newsletters (probably quicker).
 

TheHavoc

TheHavoc
Idea: if the Thargoid navigation chamber (as I call it) reacts to the ancient relic, maybe ruins obelisks also react for UP/UA/UL and maybe also to UBM (as I call the unknown biological matter), SRV's would be not recommended as they can't carry CRCRs, but our ships now have also a data link scanner but can carry CRCR, so it should be possible to scan obelisks now with UP/UA/UL/UBM in combination with the ancient artifacts ?

Edit (as I'm used to): I guess the notation "unknown LINK" (L I N K) screams that possibility out.....
 
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rizal72

rizal72
Voz said:
So what are the scavangers doing? Are they taking apart the base for some reason or are they actually fixing them?
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Inside the main chamber, I've seen them "feeding" the eggs on the ground (like a beam falling from them to the eggs)...
 
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