FDEV - can we have access to Thargoids too please!

I'm joining the ranks of who doesn't do rngineers grind and therefore had to watch the structure from the outside :p
 
I got there with both a probe and an UA WITHOUT resistant cargo racks, using 1 AFMU, making constant stops for repairs. And when I got there I had them both in my hold and I know a lot of people who did the same with no problems. You just have to be paying attention. No need for the "Grind"

yeah it is possible to do without, 2nd attempt was no problem (always above 90% and set to constantly repair), but even with the amfu constantly repairing the RNG could run against you and out pops the UP or UA... in my case was the UA thankfully

but it DOES HAPPEN! (crazy bad luck combo of course) and im sure after folk have been spending 5-6 hours searching for a UP the worse thing they want is for it to pop out the hatch!

Grinding for cut scenes now?

this is what FD have made us do :(
 
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OP, are you able to meet up with anyone else in-game who can get you into the inner chamber? If another player drops an Unknown Artifact at the door, it sits there holding the door open indefinitely. Other players can then come and go as they please...
 
yeah it is possible to do without, 2nd attempt was no problem (always above 90% and set to constantly repair), but even with the amfu constantly repairing the RNG could run against you and out pops the UP or UA... in my case was the UA thankfully

but it DOES HAPPEN! (crazy bad luck combo of course) and im sure after folk have been spending 5-6 hours searching for a UP the worse thing they want is for it to pop out the hatch!

Yeah getting the UP with the UA on board makes it a pain but because I'm paranoid I carried 4 AFMU, just in case. Although after I did the thingy I noticed that my powerplant was down to 70% even though it was overcharged is definitely worth keeping in mind
 
When the UAs first dropped, if you rammed them and broke them, that would then stop the corrosive affects. I am unable to play at the moment so not sure if this is still the case.

Good luck CMIV
 
That's what I needed. :p

Although, if one is using a Mac to play Elite, that generally means they can afford a Mac to play Elite on.

In which case, damn you Mac users for having better jobs than me!

And spending those money on a not gaming machine..

OK, on a more serious note, what are the technical difficulties to having horizon on Mac? Honest question here
 
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I am a little disappointed with Elite right now, in fact that's probably an understatement, maybe I am in the minority here too but im sure you will all let me know in the famous Dangerous discussion but here goes.

So Engineers its great and I find it fantastic that access to level 1 mods are relatively easy, little time input and some marginal gains, if we really want those grade 5 mods we have to work for them, some more than others but you can take it or leave it no big deal.

Those casual explorer gamers unlocking grade 5 DD will hopefully understand the plight of marco qwent, and equally combat pilots the palin 5kly.

But corrosive resistant cargo racks? what the hell were you thinking FD in releasing a Thargoid base there you need a Corrosive resistant rack to transport a probe and UA there to unlock its secrets? this means the thargoids and the whole mystery is locked behind a significant amount of engineer grinding which is apt for grade 5 mods but access to thargoid cut scenes???

really?

and those who say you can do it without the cargo racks, ok... it is possible but if it takes you 3 hours to find a UP and then it corrodes your cargo hatch and flies out in SC while heading to the planet and vanishes into space - in all honesty would you be happy with that as a solution? if ive spent 3 hours finding a UP I want to be guaranteed I can use it!!

I think they need to make corrosive resistant racks more openly available rather than one engineer behind a huge wall so everyone can see the Thargoids from the start rather than having to put in 100 hours of pre work to get a teaser trailer to the thargoids on your own screen without resulting to YouTube, and lets not forget flying around with a UA also increase's the chance of Thargoid flower ship encounters too - its just disappointing new players are missing out and blocked from content

hate, rate, mast... yeah you know the drill discuss away please.


I sort of agree. I have not gotten the special racks because frankly I think it is far too much of a hassle for me to get access to them.
I do have the fragments to get access to Palin and I am all good with Quent too, but it is getting the invitation itself that I just can't be bothered with. I am not much of an explorer currently, considering that there is not much to do yet in the black. I am not going to travel 5000 ly away from the starting point just to get access to Palin.

I started doing it once and then after 2000 ly or so I just could not go on with it.
I will definitely go all out exploring when we get access to atmospheric planets with flora and fauna, volcanic planets, gas giants etc. etc. Then will be the time to go exploring the galaxy. Not before that.

Having said that, it is my choice not to go after the racks and the consequences are therefore mine.
Nevertheless I would enjoy it if there was an alternative way to get resistant racks. I would pay double or triple for them.
 
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NecoMachina

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Well, and then even when you do have the corrosion-resistant cargo racks, you have somewhere between 3 hours and a couple of days to fly around near a planet throttled down in supercruise literally doing nothing but waiting for the USS to appear. This is not "gameplay". I'm not asking for these things to be a dime a dozen, but one or 2 hours needs to be the MOST you have to spend aquiring one of these (as opposed to the least amount of time if you are lucky), and there needs to be some ACTUAL GAMEPLAY involved, not just throttle down and wait.

It's funny - I spend years waiting for them to implement Thargoids thinking that this will be what the game needs to finally give us more to do, and when it gets here it's so poorly implemented that it ends up being the final nail in the coffin that makes me realize FDEV has no clue. I honestly think I'm done. Patience has finally worn out.
 

Ozric

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You need to stop your Cargo Hatch going below 90%, every 10% increases the chances of losing cargo (If I am wrong on the second point then I at least know the chance of it happening starts at 90%).

But I disagree in general, I'm afraid. I think there should be a 4t Cargo rack, but I don't think it should go any bigger than that. I certainly don't think they should be available everywhere.

It's funny - I spend years waiting for them to implement Thargoids thinking that this will be what the game needs to finally give us more to do, and when it gets here it's so poorly implemented that it ends up being the final nail in the coffin that makes me realize FDEV has no clue. I honestly think I'm done. Patience has finally worn out.

You do realise they're not returning until 2.4 don't you?
 
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But corrosive resistant cargo racks? what the hell were you thinking FD in releasing a Thargoid base there you need a Corrosive resistant rack to transport a probe and UA there to unlock its secrets? this means the thargoids and the whole mystery is locked behind a significant amount of engineer grinding which is apt for grade 5 mods but access to thargoid cut scenes???

really?

I got a twoser and a oneser either form a CG or a mission reward. No engineering involved.
 
Hmm, too easy? The CG's involved to get Palin to even have the crcr's would have been for naught. People did "grind" access to them before all the thargoid related stuff, exactly because it was known you might want to be ready when the 'stuff' finally hits + knowing to be able to experiment you' need the right tools. And those simply don't come cheap. Now that dedication and foresight is supposed to be worth nothing? Not agreeing. As a side note, we did ferry many many artifacts from a to b even before the racks existed (they were tested at SagA for example) so it is possible even for a longer time and by no means excludes anyone.
 
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Now if they would increase the size of the damn things to say 8 /16 it would still be a grind, but at least you have something for it, but if they did that then the kiddies would be UA bombing every station they could.

Nope. Can't blame FD for this one. There was a CG that determined the size of the CR racks and it barely made tier 2. I'm still cursing the lazy Cmdrs that didn't contribute every time I install those things.
 

Goose4291

Banned
The "Grind" is why they did it, this is what Elite currently is.
Now if they would increase the size of the damn things to say 8 /16 it would still be a grind, but at least you have something for it, but if they did that then the kiddies would be UA bombing every station they could.

Most of the 'kiddies' dont bother with anticorrosion racks. We plan and use mechanics to do it with basic racks.
 
Somebody who makes videos about FD dropped a hint in one of them that he was 'grinding' to unlock Palin because he 'understood' we would be needing him later in the progress of Horizons. I'm glad I followed that hint ;).

Yes, it's wrong that we have to rely on information from outside the game and, unfortunately, it seems we will have to continue this way because this is the way the game is being developed. But this is an aside from the main thread, so sorry for that little diversion.

As someone who cannot and will not play this game full time, I empathise with the OP on this.
 
That's what I needed. :p

Although, if one is using a Mac to play Elite, that generally means they can afford a Mac to play Elite on.

In which case, damn you Mac users for having better jobs than me!

Owning a Mac imho is only cool if you work with computers.(like using it for your profession) If you only play on computers having a Mac is a joke.(on you)
 
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2 AMFU's then?

it doesn't work like that no matter how many amfu you have it is POSSIBLE for the hatch to fail and cargo drop out, this feels very much like when people disconnected near neutron stars and everyone said "no it's not possible" then when it finally happened to them and they loaded in the jet they finally kicked off :(

the problem is one corrosion can can take enough off for it to fail even though it's repairing its bad luck if it happens but it can happen
 
Nope. Can't blame FD for this one. There was a CG that determined the size of the CR racks and it barely made tier 2. I'm still cursing the lazy Cmdrs that didn't contribute every time I install those things.

Don't curse them, as it is FDs fault IMHO:
This specific CG asked for very high levels of Meta Alloys to be delivered. Only relogging+Barnacle Farming was sufficient to reach these levels. Hence, many CMDRs refused to participate out of protest, that an FD-made CG actually asked for relogging to win (which some might call an exploit).
 
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