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Let's mention the REAL elefant in the room.

That missile was shot too late to hit any of those and gave away its position for any ship coming after those.
Plus, no Integrated Umbrella AAA defense? Where's the other defense assets?!

THIS IS RIDICULOUS!!11one!Eleven!
 
Let's mention the REAL elefant in the room.

That missile was shot too late to hit any of those and gave away its position for any ship coming after those.
Plus, no Integrated Umbrella AAA defense? Where's the other defense assets?!

THIS IS RIDICULOUS!!11one!Eleven!

Well, the missile is a super hypersonic missile that is 10 times the speed of that aircraft, and accelerates via quantum drive, so it will hit, because of Fidelity :D
 
Let's mention the REAL elefant in the room.

That missile was shot too late to hit any of those and gave away its position for any ship coming after those.
Plus, no Integrated Umbrella AAA defense? Where's the other defense assets?!

THIS IS RIDICULOUS!!11one!Eleven!


You obviously haven't seen how missiles work in SC, it will follow those ships around bashing against the hull till the pilot gets a headache
 
so you think that exploration and trade, a huge part of the sandbox MMO, will be possible with 5 systems.
Look, I have found a planet never explored before!
oh, wait, it says it has peen discovered by 23500 players before me. what a mess!
That's why I mention SQ42, the part of the game that is not an MMO. If you read it again I was saying that even if the MMO part of the game only has 5 systems only, will it really have an effect on SQ42, being a plot driven single player game? Probably not. Exploration is screwed, for sure, but I doubt that was ever really going to be a big thing in the single player game. And if it was, it sure as hell isn't now.
 
That's why I mention SQ42, the part of the game that is not an MMO. If you read it again I was saying that even if the MMO part of the game only has 5 systems only, will it really have an effect on SQ42, being a plot driven single player game? Probably not. Exploration is screwed, for sure, but I doubt that was ever really going to be a big thing in the single player game. And if it was, it sure as hell isn't now.



Yeah, I think they could still make a decent single player game, it's trying to get everything to work in an MMO that's going to cause the project to fail. Unfortunately it's too late to switch focus now
 
And they really should have done that first. Dump this whole idea of an MMO, and just get a working single player game with a great campaign out the door and into peoples hands with the idea of spending that additional money on the MMO part of the game later.

The problem there is that most of that money came from selling ships. How could they do that if the only thing on the cards, at least initially, would be a single player game? Not pay to win exactly but pay to skip most of the content perhaps. They would have to shovel over that money on the promise that these ships would make it into the MMO part of the game that would be coming later, hopefully.

So a lot like right now in that respect. :p
 

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And they really should have done that first. Dump this whole idea of an MMO, and just get a working single player game with a great campaign out the door and into peoples hands with the idea of spending that additional money on the MMO part of the game later.

The problem there is that most of that money came from selling ships. How could they do that if the only thing on the cards, at least initially, would be a single player game? Not pay to win exactly but pay to skip most of the content perhaps. They would have to shovel over that money on the promise that these ships would make it into the MMO part of the game that would be coming later, hopefully.

So a lot like right now in that respect. :p

Except there would be a single player game we could play while we were waiting for the MMO. Right now we have nothing.
 
Yes, as I mentioned in my second sentence. :p

I really wish they had taken that route. The road to hell is paved with good intentions, as they say, and is quite applicable here. I would have been very happy with a ultra-detailed single player space sim. If the MMO took another few years to cook in the background while everyone enjoyed the space sim to end all space sims, or whatever hubris laden description they had for it, that would have been acceptable if it had been sold like that from the very beginning. Focus has changed so much over the years that it hardly resembles the original plan any more.

It's a shame really and I do feel a little sorry for those who have forked over thousands of pounds who may never get their dream game and have to settle for some watered down experience.
 
Of course they are reading from a script. These guys are devs not Community Managers. Have you me an SE? They are super shy and not good under cameras.

No feature has been deduced to anything. This is just how development works. You cant furnish the house until its finished. Large cargo boxes are currently ony bought through the kiosk. However smaller items can be carried and stored on ship yourself, or bought through the kiost either way. They have to start somewhere, and no, you dont wait until a feature is completed to test it. Thats now how anything in life works. Things are tested as they are made, otherwise you will have to start again from scratch if any of the foundation isnt up to par.

Everything they say will be in 3.0 will be in 3.0. They are 100% transparent.

Please educate yourself on basic development proccesses.

I thought you were super sarcastic at first because most of what you say is what this thread tries to communicate for years but it seems you are not........well, you did learn something in this place I rate that as a "+"

Interesting find by a user on reddit. Says a lot about the state of VR in Star Citizen. I am sure a super secret Star Citizen VR build exists somewhere else...
https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/6omkk2/oculus_sdk_still_linked_in_to_cigs_build_of/

like everything else around Star Citizen....it ll be "super old" by the time it releases :)

That's why I mention SQ42, the part of the game that is not an MMO. If you read it again I was saying that even if the MMO part of the game only has 5 systems only, will it really have an effect on SQ42, being a plot driven single player game? Probably not. Exploration is screwed, for sure, but I doubt that was ever really going to be a big thing in the single player game. And if it was, it sure as hell isn't now.

Nobody expected "exploration" to be a thing in the single player campaign anyway so I wonder why you bring this up in the first place? What I find more confusing is all those statements about "starting" stuff for the SQ42 development....you know.....the game that was supposed to be almost done this time last year. I know certain people dont like to talk about it but silence wont make it go away. CRoberts lied to millions of people (source: funding tracker lol) without batting an eye with a smile to his face managing to infect lots of people with hypism (not a word) making them part with more of their money.

So things we can draw out of just last year.....
- lies
- non-existing product
- acting super casual and optimistic even tho CR KNOWS he got nothing

Please tell me this isnt a SCAM. I need someone to tell me now else I ll lose all hope in this project. Doesnt matter if you have arguments that make sense or not....just ̶h̶̶o̶̶l̶̶d̶ tell me :D

Except there would be a single player game we could play while we were waiting for the MMO. Right now we have nothing.

We got everything that currently exists. Sadly its exactly what you say :(
 
Browsing through the SC threads on Reddit I found this little thread

Its no drama or anyway it just stuck out because of its complete irrelevance to the project as a whole which made me wonder.

What exactly is Spectrum designed for? Isnt it supposed to offer a communication platform for SC players tying directly into the game so people can communicate with each other and set up game related stuff while not playing? I thought Spectrum was released already but nobody is using it and rather takes Reddit for messanging? Is it because Spectrum is so bad or doesnt hold up to expectations or is it because its still in alpha? Come to think of it....with all the communication platforms offered to CiG which are frequented by many (Reddit, DS forum,Spectrum, RIS(?)) CRoberts chose an outsider to break news on the System cutdown (GameStar)? So much for the "most open development ever" where backers are the last to hear about critical news surrounding the game.

I am not going to dig into Spectrum to come up with answers, I value my private time too highly for that but I do remember the advertising spiel announcing Spectrum to be amazing and groundbreaking offering so much....has any of that actually come true?
 
.... CRoberts chose an outsider to break news on the System cutdown (GameStar)? So much for the "most open development ever" where backers are the last to hear about critical news surrounding the game.....

Yes, exactly my thoughts.

Very poor show... although, perhaps seen in context, it is the very epitome of openness...?
 
The PvP slider is not a thing now.

If you want to avoid PvP, now you just have to stick to safe systems on release.

5 systems on release? That's gonna be fun :D

When you add the Griefers to this mix will anyone have any fun in these 5-10 systems? In the present Alpha instance you have to fight AI culprits just to accomplish A mission. Failed and you start over. But only after a short wait unless you want to use in game credits first. Which I would note you are not told.

Anyway, a buggy/SRV is the least of my concerns. I bought into this with two mind sets. 1. Buying SC at least afforded me a chance to try it .... 2. And it afforded me a chance to have my say on it. Now I believe I've not only backed a dead horse but perhaps need to get my money back.

Chief
 
Browsing through the SC threads on Reddit I found this little thread

Its no drama or anyway it just stuck out because of its complete irrelevance to the project as a whole which made me wonder.

What exactly is Spectrum designed for? Isnt it supposed to offer a communication platform for SC players tying directly into the game so people can communicate with each other and set up game related stuff while not playing? I thought Spectrum was released already but nobody is using it and rather takes Reddit for messanging? Is it because Spectrum is so bad or doesnt hold up to expectations or is it because its still in alpha? Come to think of it....with all the communication platforms offered to CiG which are frequented by many (Reddit, DS forum,Spectrum, RIS(?)) CRoberts chose an outsider to break news on the System cutdown (GameStar)? So much for the "most open development ever" where backers are the last to hear about critical news surrounding the game.

I am not going to dig into Spectrum to come up with answers, I value my private time too highly for that but I do remember the advertising spiel announcing Spectrum to be amazing and groundbreaking offering so much....has any of that actually come true?
Did you saw it yet? Gamestar started to make a big recap coverage about "the story" of Star Citizen for Gamestar Plus members. Its so sad to see them so obviously hyping up a game and trying to hook people up with it so that more money gets thrown at it.
 
When you add the Griefers to this mix will anyone have any fun in these 5-10 systems? In the present Alpha instance you have to fight AI culprits just to accomplish A mission. Failed and you start over. But only after a short wait unless you want to use in game credits first. Which I would note you are not told.

Anyway, a buggy/SRV is the least of my concerns. I bought into this with two mind sets. 1. Buying SC at least afforded me a chance to try it .... 2. And it afforded me a chance to have my say on it. Now I believe I've not only backed a dead horse but perhaps need to get my money back.

Chief

I am in the same boat. At least for me it was only £30.
 
When you add the Griefers to this mix will anyone have any fun in these 5-10 systems? In the present Alpha instance you have to fight AI culprits just to accomplish A mission. Failed and you start over. But only after a short wait unless you want to use in game credits first. Which I would note you are not told.

Anyway, a buggy/SRV is the least of my concerns. I bought into this with two mind sets. 1. Buying SC at least afforded me a chance to try it .... 2. And it afforded me a chance to have my say on it. Now I believe I've not only backed a dead horse but perhaps need to get my money back.

Chief

I am in the same boat. At least for me it was only £30.

I'll still give it a chance...if only because it would cost me more money to buy back in if CiG actually do get something worthwhile out of the door...alpha, beta, release...don't care..

I'm not so financially indentured into SC and Sqn42 that I care that much at any rate...I'd just have spent it on other games to sit on my hard drive. Reading the endless and pitiful wailings from both sides of the grande debacle has been well worth the cash I stumped up in the first place...better than daytime TV.

I've also found that winding the many trolls up on Spectrum is a fantastic internet sport...very entertaining. A bit like angry birds but much less frustrating [yesnod]
 
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So they were 100% transparent with their Gamescom "live presentation" of 3.0 in 2016? Not throwing something together claiming "THIS IS 3.0 and it will come end of december" while having a huge presentation of coming features for 3.0 while having a huge ship sale running. While being the rest of 2016 being nearly silent about the status of 3.0. Thats what you call transparent? Then ONE YEAR later cutting more then 50% of everything "shown" in 2016 for 2017.

Please educate yourself on basic marketing processes, hyping and how to make money with that.

They werent silent. They were clear about the delay and why and what caused. Ignorance isnt the absent of communication, its just you being ignorant. It was a live presentation. You would be suprised at how little developed/polished a feature needs to be to be use-able in a development build. And how important that is. This is something you clearly dont understand as its something i pointed out last time. Features are not put in after completetion. They are tested at the earlier chance possible.
 
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They werent silent. They were clear about the delay and why and what caused. Ignorance isnt the absent of communication, its just you being ignorant.

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Oh brother that is amazingly funny! :D

1) They promised a release 'in a few weeks'.
2) The deadline passed, and they mentioned nothing.
3) Next thing we've been told is that they are 'almost about to finish planning 3.0', weeks after it was supposed to be released.
4) We then get a 'ETA' that everyone knows is nonsense, with stuff cut without explanation.
5) As everyone expects they come up with nonsense 'delays' to get the ETA to gamescon, which they didnt have the nerf to do directly.

But hey, if this is how honest you want people to treat you, fine by me. [haha]
 
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Oh brother that is amazingly funny! :D

1) They promised a release 'in a few weeks'.
2) The deadline passed, and they mentioned nothing.
3) Next thing we've been told is that they are 'almost about to finish planning 3.0', weeks after it was supposed to be released.
4) We then get a 'ETA' that everyone knows is nonsense, with stuff cut without explanation.
5) As everyone expects they come up with nonsense 'delays' to get the ETA to gamescon, which they didnt have the nerf to do directly.

But hey, if this is how honest you want people to treat you, fine by me. [haha]
Buddy: https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#safe=off&q=3.0+schedule+report+&spf=1500655538939 again ignorance to communitcation doest mean communication didnt happen. It just means you didnt know about it. The world doesnt revolve around you.
 
Buddy: https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#safe=off&q=3.0+schedule+report+&spf=1500655538939 again ignorance to communitcation doest mean communication didnt happen. It just means you didnt know about it. The world doesnt revolve around you.

Lol, that is what I specifically mentioned.

1) They started that MONTHS after they claimed they would release it.
2) The original schedule was clearly nonsense, as I and many others immediately stated.
3) Every week the schedule has been delayed by a week, as everyone expected
4) The schedule never explained the months of earlier 3.0 delays, or why so much has been removed

But again, if you are happy with that kind of communication, have at it. [haha]
 
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