Nope, top tier players don't use exploits to grief in stations.
Edit : Or the 5-1 cheat
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The Difference Between PvP and "Griefing"
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Nope, top tier players don't use exploits to grief in stations.
Edit : Or the 5-1 cheat
Does the exploit still exist ??? Do you know who made the report of it and stop using it once FDev acknowledge it and said it was an exploit ?
EDIT : Do those exploit still exist ??? Do you know who made the report of them and stop using them once FDev acknowledge their existence and said they were exploit ?
EDIT 2 : Don't forget that : https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/358986-Community-Update-Engineer-Exploit-Action-Taken
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Combat represents 1/3 of what is in the game. Hard to call it a primary goal. You can get to elite rank via trade and exploration too.
I think its way beyond that now..more of a ground hog day theme..
[video=youtube_share;M628DuIEZ_o]https://youtu.be/M628DuIEZ_o[/video]
Then tell the world of this single cargo slot that makes every ship in the game unkillable o wise PVPer who doesnt actually trade in open but likes to kill traders.
SCBs? Maybe a singular armor or module booster? This magic item does not exist in ED. I saw rinzlers video a long time ago.
The one with the T7 that was fitted for short range trading only. It had terrible jump range o and the person he was "fighting" didnt fire a shot. All that was done was someone created a gimped short range low jump range ship that was not tested in any way.
Everyone high wakes and Everyone runs with shields. There is this assumption that traders dont. The only traders who dont are the ones who never play in open. His video shows nothing of a real encounter and doesnt tell anyone who trades in open anything. That load out wont stop getting hit by a sepctrum scramble, FSD interrupt, or a nice big Size 4A PA with phasing sequence from causing enough damage or problems. This "encounter" that rinlzer provided doesnt take into account that the person did not wake scan, follow, and continue to harass the trader.
It also doesnt address the issue that you have to get to the station. It doesnt matter if you jumped away. You still have to go back.
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You claim to have exploited 9000 rolls, that's 8999 rolls over the "I just tried it for science and to prove it was a problem to FDEV when I reported it" credibility threshold.
Obviously as a legit player I automatically disbelieve absolutely everything you ever say, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt on you having cheated thousands of times.
Trade???? Trade? what trade? flying between stations in a looped path? please dont call this trade, its more like a docking exercise.
Exploration ? -- hmmm so hard to call what we have here "exploration", at least 70% we are staring at the loading scr... sorry hyperspace and the rest of the time we are enjoying the views, which are nice, but "Space Engine" existed for a while and you can land on low end graphical atmospheric planets. Ah, also you get to hit the scan button, very exciting(TM).
The reality is, with the current state of the game combat is the only finished concept and its by far the most complex challenging and rewarding activity in this game.
Combat? Shooting ships and people with no tangible benefit or skill required? You call that PVP?
Of course you do. Which makes you a .... person that calls what we have in Elite Dangerous PVP. Please go jump into CQC and learn if you really are that good. The only reason why its not popular is because you cant mod those ships with big iWin mods. If you could, you can bet your type of people would be in there.
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Then you have missed half of the content in the video. Situational awareness and evasive manoeuvers are your friends.
Most of traders in Open fly shieldless or low class size shield. Fly in straight line and get killed in seconds.
And then (rarely), you have some awesome CMDR who pop at the CG in Open in their trading type-9 (engineered). Using the highest shield class and shield boosters and can't be ganked (No SCBs or armor/HRP). Plus they have a good situational awareness and don't even high wake on my wing when we manage to get him. They just low wake on us and we loose or high wake if things goes wrong and we loose)
We are trying to get them time to time with different tactics. Sometimes we succeed but it mostly ends with a o7.
WorldsGreatestForumDad
Banned
Dont forget the PVE community did it as well. Just the same as they did with scan missions, 17 draconis, robigo, the list goes on and on.
They removed those too.
Also because of the g1 sulfur rolls and PVPers mostly only fighting PVPers. A lot of them did it so they could be on a level playing field with the engineers like it used to be before it was introduced.
And THE SAME PEOPLE THE USED THEM reported the exploits for over a year before ANYTHING was done about it. I knew about it in January.
Those were all exploits and would be considered "griefing" And A lot of people see these Centralized money fountains to be the same. They got removed too. But the DMG is already done. Some people have 200 billion + from those money exploits. While they continue to remove them, basically punishing the guys that didnt take advantage of it because their death means nothing. While someone around 200 mil their death means a lot more.
I'll tell what, you think people would much rather play the game to make money like trading or combat rather than do the same thing over and over again mindlessly and suicide windering out. BECAUSE doing everything else is not WORTH THEIR TIME. And it should be scaled off your progression.
But instead, PVEers once again dont get punished, Sandro calls the it a sidewinder exploit for PVPers and PVEers still get to do it with this new Karma system. PVEers get to keep all thier money they made using known EXPLOITS. When it was literally no different than someone manipulating the g1 exploit. They have an advantage with money just the same as someone has an advantage with modules.
The only fix here is to allow people to make that same amount of money based off their progression. While 1 grind ends(credits) another starts(RNGeers). Compare that to any other game and it makes sense. WoW (Leveling) grind ends you make more money as you progress. Then you start raiding. League of legends, you level to 30, get your runes an 16 champion along the way. Then hop into ranked. One grind ends, Another begins.
The credits exploit a lot of the community used is just the same. If it wasn't they wouldn't have removed the centralized money locations to begin with.
o7
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Oh dear.... The thread is sinking in to a slagging match again... Lol
What was the topic again?
This thread feels an awful lot like the combat logging one, and i keep forgetting which is which... Lol
What was the topic again?
This thread feels an awful lot like the combat logging one, and i keep forgetting which is which... Lol
Add the hotel to that list while you're at it. I can only keep track of so much.
Derail a thread you don't agree with. Standard way for both sides to get a lock
WorldsGreatestForumDad
Banned
Well I hope they dont lock it up. Just remove the posts and send infractions or whatever. There is some valuable information here from both sides. I understand it can gets heated. People are passionate about the game we love. It might be a slagging match. But at the end of the say we are all on the same side. We love elite dangerous.
Derail a thread you don't agree with. Standard way for both sides to get a lock
Don't knock it, good way to quiet things down a little. Talk is cheap, but silence is expensive.
Ian Phillips
Volunteer Moderator
I'll just let you all see this again:
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Go and play the game for a while.
Thread temporarily closed for moderation action.
Go and play the game for a while.
Ian Phillips
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Ok. We're back.
Ian Phillips
Volunteer Moderator
Don't ask me - I've just read it all and my brain has gone numb!
Dont forget the PVE community did it as well. Just the same as they did with scan missions, 17 draconis, robigo, the list goes on and on.
They removed those too.
Also because of the g1 sulfur rolls and PVPers mostly only fighting PVPers. A lot of them did it so they could be on a level playing field with the engineers like it used to be before it was introduced.
And THE SAME PEOPLE THE USED THEM reported the exploits for over a year before ANYTHING was done about it. I knew about it in January.
Those were all exploits and would be considered "griefing" And A lot of people see these Centralized money fountains to be the same. They got removed too. But the DMG is already done. Some people have 200 billion + from those money exploits. While they continue to remove them, basically punishing the guys that didnt take advantage of it because their death means nothing. While someone around 200 mil their death means a lot more.
I'll tell what, you think people would much rather play the game to make money like trading or combat rather than do the same thing over and over again mindlessly and suicide windering out. BECAUSE doing everything else is not WORTH THEIR TIME. And it should be scaled off your progression.
But instead, PVEers once again dont get punished, Sandro calls the it a sidewinder exploit for PVPers and PVEers still get to do it with this new Karma system. PVEers get to keep all thier money they made using known EXPLOITS. When it was literally no different than someone manipulating the g1 exploit. They have an advantage with money just the same as someone has an advantage with modules.
The only fix here is to allow people to make that same amount of money based off their progression. While 1 grind ends(credits) another starts(RNGeers). Compare that to any other game and it makes sense. WoW (Leveling) grind ends you make more money as you progress. Then you start raiding. League of legends, you level to 30, get your runes an 16 champion along the way. Then hop into ranked. One grind ends, Another begins.
The credits exploit a lot of the community used is just the same. If it wasn't they wouldn't have removed the centralized money locations to begin with.
o7
I'm legit.