PvP Fuel Corgi gets got 65k LY from bubble - SDC Special

NecoMachina

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It's not harassment.

I disagree. It's not legit PvP, it's not in the spirit of the game. Come on,you have to admit that this was done for the sole reason of making someone angry. If you are doing things with no other objective in mind than to make someone angry, and go to exceptional and unnecessary lengths to ensure that circumstances are such that they will be as angry as possible, that is harassment. You are not "playing the game", you are targeting the person themself.

fact is what he did is allowed by the rules as set forth by Frontier.
This is exactly my point. FDEV need to crack down on this griefing thing a bit. Kill another player? Fine. Go out of your way with the explicit intent to make someone angry? Not fine.
 

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but regardless, still was a definite case of someone doing something to deliberately try and cause someone grief.

And it's allowed by FDEV with no consequences. Not even a warning. Disgusting.

As always, if you don't like this sort of thing, you can always play in other modes.

I can do better than that. I can stop supporting FDEV. I can't respect any company who would not only allow this sort of thing, but also applaud it.

SDC do this sort of thing for the notoriety. They openly admit it. If people didn't give them the attention they want, they would get frustrated. Instead people get riled up.
THIS. IS. MY. POINT. Why is this allowed to remain on the forums. You KNOW this is going to cause arguments. It serves no purpose whatsoever other than to cause arguments. It should be removed from the forums and a warning issued.

Advice:

Stop playing in Open or be wary of tricks like this.
If you see a thread like this, don't dive in head first. Think about what the OP wants. Don't give the OP what they want.
There's a way to ensure that threads like this can't cause arguments and give the OP what he wants.
 
The statement is obviously correct. The relevance of the request eludes me.

The context is: effort equals value. Make belief or not. This CMDR spent effort coming to rescue a CMDR. Thinking that CMDR would otherwise lose their exploration effort.

That value was taken from him just for giggles. That's where morality comes in.
 

NecoMachina

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LOL. So now its the moderators fault? :D
Well, I suspect that FDEV's policy that doesn't allow for mods to keep this kind of thing off the forums. It's the fault of poor moderation, but not because of the moderators themselves I suspect.
 

NecoMachina

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On moderation - we get roughly as many complaints about bias for PvE as for PvP.

On other items, don't insult or bait using using pejorative phrases.

Let's stay on topic please.
Or what? The posts will be removed? It's already clear that's not always true. There's plenty of insults, baiting, and pejorative phrases here that have been allowed to remain. Disgusting.

Not sure this is a complaint about PvP. I think it's a complaint about allowing obvious trolling behaviour on these forums, when I've seen other threads shut down for much less.

All I know, is the 26th is going to be a complete mess, when groups such as the one mentioned in this thread (and no, not the 'Corgies'), and other of their type decide to find a way to ruin everyone else's fun by being as disruptive as possible, come here to brag about it, and the forum moderators twiddle their thumbs, as they do nothing about it.

Of course, moderators are subject to guidelines set down by Frontier themselves. I for one would be most interested to see these moderation guidelines.. see how it compares to what I do...
THIS.
 

NecoMachina

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Its amusing, since we are frequently told by the PvPers that we favour the PvEers.

I guess we are biased against everyone! Or... biased for everyone? So confusing.
Forget about PvP vs. PvE for a moment. Let's talk instead about why this type of thread is allowed to remain on the forums.
 
You don't really believe that, do you? If so I actually feel sorry for you.

What is it with PvErs who think their actions should not have consequences?

I know that this wasn't about a fuel rat being terminated, but I still think this documentary about the harm caused by their organization to the galaxy has relevance:
[video=youtube;H0dnGWXD8E0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0dnGWXD8E0[/video]
 
Again, ED is not RL, why are keep om bringing RL examples to justify your points about a video game?

I think we touched on this in a Facebook thread at some point, Algomatic, but I see the point did not get across.

Just because you are interacting through an online medium, and even a game, does not invalidate all ethical considerations. You are still interacting with humans. This has been a subject of study since the late 90s (For example Philip Brey's "The Ethics of Representation and Action in Virtual Reality", or T.M Powers "Real Wrongs in Virtual Communities", or James Croft's "It's just a game". Here, have a link to the latter: http://thegoodproject.org/pdf/73-Its-Just-a-Game.pdf )

You'll find precious few good scientific studies claiming that there's no real consequence to immoral acts in virtual realities.
 
Forget about PvP vs. PvE for a moment. Let's talk instead about why this type of thread is allowed to remain on the forums.

Because it's no different from showing off your Asp screenshots, or showing off that you reached a elite rank. Except that this is an actual record breaking achievement, and it involves PVP, and I'd rather see videos like this that are actually fun and well edited, than some boring crap that PVEers post.
 
Ssh. I don't want you to get banned, you often post smart stuff. Just leave it.


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Forget about PvP vs. PvE for a moment. Let's talk instead about why this type of thread is allowed to remain on the forums.

Why not?

This is the dynamics of open play. The fuel rats knows the risks of it. This is not the fuels rats first rodeo either. They even went out of their way to modify their website.

This is a game first and foremost.

Nothing is stopping the fuel rats from hiring protection.

Oh but they aint going to travel that far! Not in a PVP ship! Well what do you think Tilt Controlz did?

Everyone here has the same power as everyone else. PVE and PVP will forever be mixed in open play. It will never change. These things that happen are fruitful for this community.

But instead same whiners complain complain complain. But they never do anything about it. Just whine here. Yall are good a typing though.

But when is anyone going to do anything? Like I said elsewhere. Ive played both sides of the Fence. I play the good guy and bad guy in this game. The group I am in allows this. And sometimes my own members my attack me depending on how they feel about certain events.

Because we separate the game from real life.

Stop calling each other psychos. Go out there and do something about it.

Edit: oh wait its a fuel corgi...Well same difference. Its not like they didnt know what they would be getting into. Open play is Open play.
 
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Jenner

I wish I was English like my hero Tj.
Why does moderation bias keep coming into this?

People post pics of Asps in front of things on the forum and people post PvP videos.

Both are valid.

It's funny how the mods get accused of bias on both sides depending on the day.
 
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