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I went out to the crashed Thargoid Scout to investigate it myself. It is the Octagonal type, and clearly shows as Thargoid Scout when targeted. It has corrosion on it, pockmarks and whatnot. Some of the corrosion appears to be green (or that could be something else, hard to say for sure).

There's been some speculation about how old this crash is.

I think the most telling evidence here is the dropped canisters. These contain current Thargoid materials (Thargoid Biological Matter, Thargoid Technological Samples), the same stuff Professor Palin's been asking for recently.

Why would a very old ship be carrying current materials? That's my question.

It's not conclusive, of course, but it's possible that this crash is recent. Perhaps we'll see some of these scouts alive and flying about.

One thing it does prove -- there's more than one type of Thargoid ship.

We have identified the Thargoid Scout and the Thargoid Interceptor so far.

What other types might we see in the future?

Here's my video of my investigation of the site:

[video=youtube_share;ykAm_SBrAPs]https://youtu.be/ykAm_SBrAPs[/video]
 
okay i am ps4 commander, and when i first tried the discovery scanner i noticed that if you just tapped it quick it gave a tone at the start, then if i tapped it 3 or 4 times in quick succession it played different tones at the beginning of each scan. my question is has anyone tried rapidly tapping the discovery scanner near thargoid ships, probes or artifacts to see if there is a reaction.

also as a side note has anyone thought that maybe some of the thargoids are just migrating around the galaxy and that the pleiades is just one of there stop off and resupply stations on there migration to spawning grounds. but the more hostile ones are from a different faction. i only ask because the group that setup projects dynasty and equinox had an idea that the thargoids would be back at some point, sorry if this is way to crazy for some people, but any theory is better than none
 
I've watched the videos of the fights with the Cyclops, and something about it just feels wrong. I can't put my finger on why, but I'm definitely left with the impression that they're only kind of half-heartedly defending themselves against the attackers. Are we making a mistake?

If you mean are we making a mistake attacking them, yes, I believe we are.
 
I could have outrun it. I just wanted to see its behavior in the asteroid field. I was in the field, the scout refused to enter it. It lobbed a volley of missiles at me from a distance (or maybe it was the thargons), which caught me by off-guard because I stopped to answer a phone call.

Here are some screenies.

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Doh! Unlucky :(, interesting that it didn't enter the field though!

Since the new scanner was implemented, had anyone tried to manifest scan a Thargoid after it scoops up escape pods?

What about hatch breaker limpets?

Can we rescue already scooped humans? basically.

Also, anyone attempted to.... datalink scan thargoids, or, their targon swarms, after the scanners? I tried all these scans before the new Xeno scanner existed, and got a scan failed message for each type. So might be worth a look.
Ok after a few failed attempts (I had to run after I agrro'd it! ;)), despite aggroing it I stayed until the datascan finished, the info panel said something about 'failed to understand data', sorry I didn't get a scrnshot, I was busy boosting away & I thought that EDDi would keep a record of it, but it doesn't :(. Anyway, I managed to escape before it got really mad & went back to xeno scan it as it went into hyperspace.
 
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I've watched the videos of the fights with the Cyclops, and something about it just feels wrong. I can't put my finger on why, but I'm definitely left with the impression that they're only kind of half-heartedly defending themselves against the attackers. Are we making a mistake?

Could be.

We're like a colony of killer bees being stirred up and made angry by the escaping thargoids for the pursuing thargoids to run into.

In movie terms we're the fruit cart.
 
Could be.

We're like a colony of killer bees being stirred up and made angry by the escaping thargoids for the pursuing thargoids to run into.

In movie terms we're the fruit cart.

The only thing with that though, is that you think they would jump out rather than be killed if they only wanted to stir us up.....
 
Those markings on the Thargoid ships. I think they are their combat rank or similar.

The way it's displayed after a scan and the way Ed talked about some Goids being more timid than others, makes me think this.
 
I think we are jumping the gun on the whole two-faction angle. That we have Premonition (haven't read it) telling us about that doesn't mean that it's a reality, or even known known or unknown in the ED universe that we actually fly within right now.

My interest at the moment lies with the different first-contact behaviours we're seeing with things like the Hyperdictions and the NHSSs.

I think we're seeing the equivalent of navy/pirate/scientist behaviours in the Thargs.

If I attack anything, it'll only be if I'm shot at first for no apparent reason (e.g. getting too close etc).

There's yet another angle you can take, which I think ties everything together almost a little too neatly. To a human, the pattern of scanning a ship, detecting cargo they want, and then opening fire if that's their only way of getting it, sure does look like piracy... But it only happens if it's their stuff in the first place. That changes things. Let's connect some dots:

The first several Thargoid aftermath sites we found pre 2.4 were all Federation shipwrecks, right?

We have no way of telling what the 'goids were originally doing at those Fed wreckage sites, but at current sites, we can observe a simple behavior of searching for and collecting two things: Human escape pods, and Thargoid items. Sensors, alloys, whatever.

Now, where did we, the noble freelancer commanders of the Pilots Federation, first come across Thargoid artefacts, long before we discovered the Merope shell?

In convoys with Federation ships.

It seems to me that the Thargoids are doing exactly what we were doing.

Disregarding speculation, the only thing resembling a motive that we can objectively observe in our current encounters with the Thargoids is that they seem to be collecting items of Thargoid origin (and humans, but only if they're incapacitated! (Which could easily be an act of mercy that we don't yet understand, but that's speculation and I said I wouldn't do that)) Only if we do not give the items up willingly do they forcefully take them from us. That's not piracy, that's... repossession. They're taking back things that we must assume were theirs all along and that we really have no business meddling with. Even if not theirs, we know they're not ours, so what right do we have to hold onto them? The increasing prevalence of wreckage sites and non-Federation ship types can easily be explained by the increased rate at which freelancers (that's us!) and other factions are beginning to collect these items for their own ends. It started with the Federation, because as far as I can tell, the Federation (or at least some subfaction using their ships) were the first to rediscover the Thargoids and start plucking those sensors and probes from their intended resting places. We began to hunt them down to collect those artefacts. The Thargoids began to hunt them down to collect those artefacts.

This could all be something as simple as us having disrupted a network or structure of some kind to the degree that the Thargoids have to send more and more ships to attempt to repair the damage that we're doing. We shouldn't even be assigning the act of attacking and killing humans to a hostile mindset. If it's true what I've read, that the Thargoids are suspected to be a highly logical and more or less emotionless race, then it simply makes sense that if they need a thing that somebody is keeping from them, and they can't make them give it back, then they must destroy them so they can acquire it. (And even applying our highly subjective, human morals... again, we've been doing it, too, for the same reasons...)


Now if we wanna get back into the delicious, tea-flavored speculation, just for kicks, there are ways to apply this behavior to the two-faction theory! Thargoid sensors have been observed doing two things, right? Noting what system they're in, and noting any vessels they come across there. Presumably this data is either sent somewhere, or stored on the sensor itself for future collection, otherwise it'd be pointless to track it in the first place. I don't see any evidence for this, but if this return of the Thargoids is the result of one faction fleeing from another through human space, wouldn't it be smart of them to collect as many sensors as they can on the way so their hunters can't just stop by one and dig into its presumed database for evidence that other Thargoids had stopped by recently? If the information is stored on the sensor itself, it doesn't matter whether it's currently in place in the Merope shell or sitting on a human transport ship somewhere, all you need to do is find it and extract the data of which ship was spotted where, and you can very effectively track your prey! So the smartest thing to do would be to apply an inverse breadcrumb trail and pick up all the evidence as you go!

Of course, were that the case, and if the hostile Thargoid faction figured out that we humans have been stealing their trackers, who knows what they would do to find them all so they could continue the hunt... If all they have to go on is "a human ship took the thing", then maybe the easiest way to find them would be to, uh... destroy all human ships... So we're fortunate that this is all baseless speculation!
 
Just a quick speculation/observation- it seems like Thargoids do not have access to supercruise the way humanity does. Is that because they dropped it in favor of their superior point-to-point travel technology, or because they developed completely differently?
 
Kinda silly question, but did anyone tried getting 3 thargoid hearts and putting them into central machine at any active thargoid base?
 
I think i found something interesting in an interdiction (or not). I tried google it but cant found anything that mention it. I get interdicted by 2 Thargoids, one emp me then leave, other only looking. Noting new, but after few minutes I realised something is wrong. There is too dark, and found out there is no galaxy plane or nebulae in the background, only the stars. Made a video, but I dunno its a glich, a graphical bug, or intended? Sorry if its a known thing. Anyway its really creepy and scary in the middle of the nothing with a watching alien. If its intendet, good work FD, raises the scary factor. Edit: but if intended, then it raises a question, its another place/dimension/anything? The stars are there, but nothing more.
https://youtu.be/Iq-9nUoVdS4
After this i low waked out, but still was no background, only after high wake.
(also dunno if it was mentioned but the beeping sound what the Thargoid emits only audible in the cockpit. Dont think its relevant for anything, but maybe has something to do with technology in the future)
 
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Nah. The crashed tharg (the recent one) is a Thargoid Scout from the old Elite games, Hell it even tells you when you scan it, "Thargoid Scout traces of Mycoid found"
Intresting.
I hope we will get to see it fly one day.

Would be a shame to have such a cool looking ship and never see it in game.
 
I've only just noticed, but you can't high wake out of NHSS when your within mass lock of the green cloud! :eek: didn't think a high wake could ever be mass locked! (So Premonition was partially right then).
 
What if the thargoid sensors are the oresians way of detecting the klaxions... And by thus removing them from their locations in space we are destroying their protective early warning net. As someone said earlier in the thread, if the thargoids we are seeing now are just repossessing their sensors from us that we did not know what they were, they are reacting by taking things of ours along with their sensors... for example escape pods.
I have a strong feeling we have our eyes and teeth set on the wrong target. These guys are just trying to get back what is theirs and survive against a much more potent threat. Let's not let miscommunication be the start of yet another conflict.
Fly safe CMDRS o7
 
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