Will I ever be able to get out of my ship?
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"It's something we really, really want to do.... but[...]"
"It's still something we'd like to do, but[...]"
"it's a hell of a lot of work for the dev team"
"to do it properly would be[...]" [emphasis mine]
This type of language doesn't exactly instill confidence. What happened to the excitement? For the last year or so, Frontier have acted kind of bummed or even irritated when the topic of walking around has been brought up. I'd like to see some of that Kickstarter-era enthusiasm and ambition return.
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Jeez do I really need to remind you about many quotes from David, kickstarter mentioning legs? And this :
Racing games or flight sims never implied walking, David Braben on the other hand did multiple times. This should be posted in bold letter somewhere or pinned at the top of the forum.
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I really, really want space legs. The "gameplay" around it doesn't honestly need to be anything more than getting to look around our ships, and whatever gameplay the SRV offers, minus moving cargo containers. If the only "gameplay" I get from spacelegs is being able to interact with planetary base terminals without sacrificing a module slot and 6 tons of mass for an SRV that I honestly don't really like driving anyway, it'll be a huge win.
And really, think of the awesome new sci-fi YouTube series content creators will be able to come up with.
And really, think of the awesome new sci-fi YouTube series content creators will be able to come up with.
I am excited because this means more development time for spaceships!
And the thing with the telepresence in SRV... the materials would go to the owner of the ship the SRV comes back to. Seems obvious There is a bigger probem with a SRV that gets stranded because some guy left MC while in it
And the thing with the telepresence in SRV... the materials would go to the owner of the ship the SRV comes back to. Seems obvious
There is a bigger probem with a SRV that gets stranded because some guy left MC while in it Winner winner chicken dinner!
BRB, need to add like a million rep points on your profile
Winner winner chicken dinner!
BRB, need to add like a million rep points on your profile
Again..
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Yeah yeah it was always a part of his vision but never a part of his games. Which speaks volumes. Not everything that is cool can be introduced in a cool way and the comments of the devs are getting clearer on this. Which is good, they've seen what happened in Eve Online and X rebirth because of the very same ideas.
Racing games or Flight sims are very different games to ED. We can already get out of our cockpits in the SRV. And the game isn't about flying spaceships, but about adventure. If getting out of your cockpit and exploring and interacting with stuff on foot or with EVA enhanced that adventure, then I am all for it.
This game is not a space ship sim, if it was we wouldn't have so much other stuff in it. We wouldn't have planetary landings (which I love). The BGS or the large amount of systems around. It was just a space ship sim, then we could do with just having one solar system and highlighting on that instead. No thanks.
For me this game is all about exploration. Exploration, but not just in space but on planetary surfaces, caves, places where an SRV or ship can't get to, inside abandoned installations/generation ships, bases, alien structures etc.
If all you want is a space ship sim, then we have a basic version already, and there is a more in-depth space ship sim called Rogue System. I would try that for a hardcore space ship sim. Elite is not that.
And let that be a lesson to learn. When adding elite feet, make sure it has some compelling gameplay loops to it instead of the none existant gameplay that EVE and X-Rebirth had. There is no reason why having Elite Feet would be bad as long as they learn from others mistakes.
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EVE online never had space legs jut a gimmick aesthetic cabin location, and space legs in X rebirth were the last problem with this game. I actually like them myself.
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Winner winner chicken dinner!
BRB, need to add like a million rep points on your profile
What? Its a rubbish statement. Racing games are designed around just racing your cars, and flight sims, well, the clue is in the title. ED is not a Space ship sim, but a galaxy sim, and the last time I looked, we walk around in this galaxy.
FD was selling Space Legs since the KS, but now we are fools when we ask about it. They even told us that they designed the ships specially for Space Legs, and a huge portion of the KS campaign focused on how cool Space Legs will be. But now we are the crazy ones who don't think on how much work it entails when we ask about them. If this is so, you guys at FD should have thought about it before using it for advertising something you don't have and something you don't even know how to do (and something on which, apparently, you haven't even started working). But you guys let your white knights do the shaming when people ask about the things you said you will do, and never address the fact that you said you will do it, you always keep it suspiciously vague, somehow blaming the situation on how naive we are, and that "we need to understand". So we have to keep reading arguments about how stupid we are for wishing or expecting Space Legs, when the truth is that we wish and expect them because this is what was advertised in the beginning.
I no longer think Space Legs will happen, I am not an idiot. But this is not because SL is a hard thing to do, but because I no longer believe anything Frontier says.
I no longer think Space Legs will happen, I am not an idiot. But this is not because SL is a hard thing to do, but because I no longer believe anything Frontier says.
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I would never compare ED to a racing or flightsim. Apples and Oranges IMO.
Because there's a cash shop tied to it where you can buy stuff.
There was and advanced tech demo of walking in stations for Eve Online including chatting with other ppl, shopping etc, they've wasted months, silly amounts of investments and employed a lot new people in several locations only to find out they would need much much more money, time and people to actually create and maintain any meaningful content for it and CCP is two times bigger than fdev. The same is happening now with Star Citizen - years of development 100+ millions $ and we are still looking at the same spaceport, just this time the npc walk around. And the game area of SC is microscopic and very sparsely settled compared to ED's Galaxy.
Xrebitrth had a lot of problems because the devs left the old game model of very cool spaceships for walking around inside your ship and in stations. The development time which should be spent on the core game was wasted on new elements that became boring and annoying after a weak. There are currently a lot of popular mods that let you skip this whiole part. That's also the reason why this was the first x game since years where you only had one ship to fly and not dozens - because they wouldn't have the resources to model all of them from the inside. It was weak because it was some strange space mixture instead of a good space ship game like the previous ones that had their development targers set correctly.
This 'vision' is not new at all and is the bane of spaceship games since forever (before that we had Battlecruiser 3000AD with the exaxtly same scenario playing out)
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They're about the same size; both companies have about 350 employees.