Yes that's quite true. Thanks for helping me sort my feelings
I'll rant again in 2019 !
"Beyond" free for Horizon owners - LEP musings
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I'll rant again in 2019 !
LEP owner here.
One thing to consider is that we all got the black skins for free. Other people paid for them when they were released. These had a value of over £80.
It does however extend the time before expansions provide a return on the investment of the LEP.
Bare in mind though that i believe legally Frontier have to announce any paid expansions to the "City" before they announce to fans. So it may be that something does come at the back end of next year. However it would not be announced till closer to the time.
One thing to consider is that we all got the black skins for free. Other people paid for them when they were released. These had a value of over £80.
It does however extend the time before expansions provide a return on the investment of the LEP.
Bare in mind though that i believe legally Frontier have to announce any paid expansions to the "City" before they announce to fans. So it may be that something does come at the back end of next year. However it would not be announced till closer to the time.
It was in the livestream. I imagine official posts will come a bit later.
Probably, but I think you've managed to entirely miss my point.
I agree. I bought the LEP at the high price (think it was £130 after the discount for already owning season 1) and would only really be annoyed if there were no more paid expansions. Yes, I'm disappointed, and mildly frustrated, with the slower than expected rate of progress since 2.0, but certainly not at angry or hating stage.
What was your point?
I've seen the game advance considerably since release, at the same time as porting to consoles.. the updates revealed today will advance the game even further imo..
I bought the LEP back in beta days for 40 euro, I honestly can't complain about whatever release plans they have. Having bought it at that price does make it easier to justify the occasional skin/detail purchase though.
I haven't seen the livestream yet and I hope it comes on youtube soon, but from what I've seen the new planet reworks looks amazing and I'm looking forward to any further improvement to planetary landings.
I haven't seen the livestream yet and I hope it comes on youtube soon, but from what I've seen the new planet reworks looks amazing and I'm looking forward to any further improvement to planetary landings.
I think FDev are just in a really good position. Lots of paintjobs, ship kits and decals sold. Planet Coaster doing really well and now a 3rd game which should do even better due to the potential fanbase and popularity of "ze dinos"
For LEP owners, you took a risk. I really can't see how you'll be regretting it as most of the improvements for E
I got my monies worth, and I'm a LEP owner, there will be other DLC's I think this is good, they are preparing for what's to come after 3.0
Yeah, return on investment in case of 10 years of yearly paid expansions vs once every 3 years is non-existant, unless now they have 30 year plan for development of ED, kind of a bummer
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I would be happy to pay more, if I would get what I expect.
For me the free contect looks like they can't achieve enough for a commercial update. Maybe the player community is way smaller than two years ago. Dunno
For me the free contect looks like they can't achieve enough for a commercial update. Maybe the player community is way smaller than two years ago. Dunno
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I could see them throwing a shop credit out to LEP holders at some point as a goodwill gesture. It's minimum cost stuff for Fdev but has actual value to any player who was going to buy some stuff anyway.
I said in another thread it's obvious that the shop is being ramped up as an income source, we've gone from a new paint being a once every couple of months event to a paint and some holo-me item being a weekly release, I doubt that the reason they're using design resources on that stuff is because nobody is buying it. They did sell 10% of the company to Tencent after all, whose entire business model is microtransactions.
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I just want to see FD address lifetime pass holders. When I bought mine, there were supposed to be annual paid expansions. That's what sold me on it. If I had known Horizons would last for 3 years (and considering previous delays, who's to say Beyond won't last 2 years instead of 1?), I might have just bought Horizons instead.
Right now it feels like a bait-and-switch, even though I'm sure they didn't intend for it to work out that way. Asking for a little official reassurance from FD is not asking too much.
Right now it feels like a bait-and-switch, even though I'm sure they didn't intend for it to work out that way. Asking for a little official reassurance from FD is not asking too much.
I'm trying to remember fully (I had to go out immediately as the Elite segment of the show ended)... Is Frontier officially calling this next year of updates "3.0"? I saw them call it "Beyond", but wasn't sure if this is actually presented as a new "expansion" or not.
What they showed today pleased me massively, getting some nice planet surface variations back in the game (which we used to have, anyway), finally getting missions (and group tools) to go with the Wings play, text-to-speech for Galnet. Plus a few ships and goodies that support what we have.
But with regard to value for LEP owners... Do players consider what they saw today a full $59 USD paid expansion worth?
I saw it all as an excellently aimed shot at filling in some remaining gaps in the Horizons package. And it's free, which kinda rings on that point.
Maybe just me, but I tend to think of a new $59 paid expansion as taking Elite somewhere new. Things like the much talked about atmospheric and Earth-like worlds, walking in and out of ships. All that kind of stuff that we see another competing product offering... maybe sometime in late 2018 to 2019? Frontier putting that new paid content expansion forward in step with the rest of the space-sim market (which I won't name) would seem to make great competitive sense.
Anyway, there's no really "correct" place to say it, so I'll put it here:
Thanks Frontier, what I saw presented today looks very welcome.
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