The reason I always leave game again

[metatheurgist]

Hmm. Go talk to some PVPer's. A significant number of them use M+KB, some of them even say it's superior to HOTAS especially for FA Off.

Money making. That gets easier with every update, not that it was hard to start with. I wish I was paid retroactively for the massive exploration trip I went on. I'd be paid 5x what I got now compared to then.

 

[Shackram]

If true then you either:

1) make a lot of money
2) You're stupid
3) You're crazy
4) the laziest man on Earth

You forgot 5) It didn't happen

 

[jasonbarron]

no thanks. I would but man, I can't be bothered at this age to fiddle around with it until making it finally work. I run low on patience and threw a Ultra-4K Samsung TV out of the window the other day because Pixel-error occured 3 days after warranty ran out. I just don't want to spend all that money, wasting time installing and troubleshooting, would get it if it is plug and play. No time next to work, taking care of dog, taking care of sick wife, I just want to spend my tiny little time that I sometimes I have for myself playing, and not installing,programming, fiddle around with not user friendly devices (from what I saw on so many youtube etc videos).

I think the problem is located somewhere between your ears.

 

[simulacrae]

Still have yet to try HOTAS myself ... Been loving the dual joystick.... And yes one of them is my old sidewinder pro... Sadly no force feedback tho

 

[Valethar]

When they start selling these on the Frontier Store, he'll be back.

 

[Zebaoth]

What the heck is up with threads like this?

That's like complaining about folks that own high end GPUs to have an advantage over you because you're playing on an IBM thinkpad from 1992...

 

[Valethar]

What the heck is up with threads like this?

That's like complaining about folks that own high end GPUs to have an advantage over you because you're playing on an IBM thinkpad from 1992...

Give him time. He probably hasn't thought of that yet.

 

[Sentience]

I stopped using Joysticks because of tediously long and frustrating hours trying to make them work

I plug mine into a USB port and it works.
Takes 10 seconds.

Don't know what nonsense you're going on about.

 

[GraXXoR]

Looks like OP's had all his points addressed in this thread but... Really? key binds as a reason? They keys take about 15 minutes to set up and can be done as needed... SRV, Galaxy map, Camera suite etc can be tweaked later.

Or why don't you just get an X52 -the default joystick- or X55 (close enough) and play with default key settings? They're pre mapped.

I have a X65 Hotas / MFG Crosswinds pedal set up.
Even with the Logitech g27 steering wheel and pedals attached.
There was no conflict.
Moreover, I upgraded to Windows 10 and my joystick is discontinued which means I had to use an incompatible windows 7 driver...
Still worked a-ok.
Even the analogue thumbstick works in Elite. This I've not managed to get working in any other game... LOL.

Elite dangerous just works... Literally plug and play, and one of the most controller friendly games I've ever experienced... unlike the other upcoming space game which just does not recognise certain buttons on my joystick no matter how hard I try.

 

[Bdragon4]

So what the OP is saying is that he sucks at combat?

 

[Nyra Amarin]

As far as i am aware the PvP pros play with mouse and keyboard.

This.

I know a lot of people focused on PvP who were playing with Hotas, but for combat (wars against other players, CQC and championships organized by them) they prefer the mouse and the keyboard.
Of course I know people that don't do it too just because they are used to HOTAS and like more the inmersion playing with the jostick.

So what the OP is saying is that he sucks at combat?

And that he wants to earn easier money too, I guess.

 

[NW3]

I was under the impression that making money was actually rather easier than in the past, unless you count the extreme examples that were nerfed?

It is. It sounds like he's mainly interested in PvP, which can be a very expensive hobby in this game. Devoted PvPers seem to want this game's economy changed, so that you can earn stupid amounts of money with no effort, because they would rather be in PvP combat. Instead, they should be playing CQC, which was designed for PvP.

 

[NW3]

I have a lot of fun, but I just get nowhere. I did some maths and I would need about 400 hours or so of playing to afford an Anaconda (without proper fitting), and that is after already having spend forever to get an Asp Explorer Got the Explorer in 2016 and I never ever made use of any bugs/exploits. Anyway, had no idea I had so many replies so fast, I am going to hit the sack, but I guess I will give this Hotas situation closer attention since several mentioned now it is not as hard to make it work. Thx for the replies!

Seriously, you do not need an Anaconda to have fun. My personal favorite is the AspX, but there are quite a few small/medium ships which are player favorites. A Cobra can be a lot of fun and is cheap.

I hate the Anaconda's limited cockpit view and I don't find flying the large, ponderous ships to be any fun. Large ships can be expensive to maintain as well.

ED is a serous time sink. If you don't have hundreds of hours to spend playing it, set your goals accordingly: Have fun, don't grind for a big ship. (If you can't have fun in an Eagle or a Cobra, it's unlikely that you'll have fun in an Anaconda.)

 

[kofeyh]

I stopped using Joysticks because of tediously long and frustrating hours trying to make them work.

To be fair, I've seen keyboard-mouse flying that makes me realise I am likely to remain forever a poor cousin, even with HOTAS setup. I've watched flight-assist off flying from a KB+Mouse driver, using fixed weapons, and they are a goddamned surgeon. I can't even fathom how the hell they even do, what they do, it's insane. They just match velocity like it's no big deal (despite the other ship moving around like it's just downed it's 12th coffee for the day) and lock on and just - it's actually humbling to see what a good pilot can do.

I want to believe I am okay; but i'm not. I'm a bit ordinary. But that's okay because that is something I can focus on; i have a bunch of credits and ships, but they're a bit meaningless if I can't really use them to best possible. Simply learning to go to FA-Off has been a crazy fun journey. We all have the capacity to learn, even idiots like myself.

There's nothing really financially valuable in that. But it is my challenge. I suck. I want to suck less. But I'm not going to blame KB+M drivers, or my equipment. That's on me using what I have, to the best possible. It's up to me to fix that. I can get salty and upset because of other people. Or I can try and be that insane fa-off pilot who makes an exocet missile look like a lost, alzheimic patient. I can only try. Because I know even though that gorram surgeon is insane now, they once sucked (probably less so) too.

--

Here's the thing; it's what people get good at. Talent is talent; the tools used are simply an extension of that. It's not the tool, but the person (fool) using the tool. Always has been. Maybe that's something to consider? Do all the toy's matter? Or does improving make that mean more? I guess only you can answer that. I wish you well. o7

 

[CAPT. Ho Chi Minge]

Seriously, you do not need an Anaconda to have fun. My personal favorite is the AspX, but there are quite a few small/medium ships which are player favorites. A Cobra can be a lot of fun and is cheap.

I hate the Anaconda's limited cockpit view and I don't find flying the large, ponderous ships to be any fun.

ED is a serous time sink. If you don't have hundreds of hours to spend playing it, set your goals accordingly: Have fun, don't grind for a big ship. (If you can't have fun in an Eagle or a Cobra, it's unlikely that you'll have fun in an Anaconda.)

Quoted for truth ..

I own the big 3 amongst others and cash in my pocket for the rest but the most fun i have is in small to mediums , properly outfitted and engineered for what tasks they are assigned its the most fun ive had in elite. The big 3 are just lumbering juggernauts that become boring zzzz fests with predictable outcomes (joust or backwards FA off) , rinse repeat till either you win or the shields fail and highwake. Atleast in smaller craft the fights vary with jockeying for position and relying on speed and maneuverability to win rather than how much longer you can tank.

Edit .. Some of the best pilots(wont name an shame) ive seen anywhere in game utilise mouse and keys to great success and against some who will be using HOTAS so i cant agree with the tech argument.

 

[Aashenfox]

This game is exceptional at weeding out those who wouldn't like it before they hit the 'Start' button. The rest soon after.

As for needing the big 3, they're the only ships you DON'T need.

 

[wenkman]

in germany we say:"there is always one, who runs quicker that you."

so forget hotas and competing to other players. there will be always one that has more ingame assets or better combat skills or the bigger cannon on the central huge hardpoint.

as advertised, blaze your own trail. as for the lack of story, find something worthwhile to do.
(and if you can find that at any moment, take some time off and wait for content updates. story missions are on the roadmap.)

edit: oh, many say you don't need the big 3. i must say i like the conda best and use it most of the time for almost anything. lightly fitted, modded fsd and thrusters, some paintjobs and wing kits.
definitely. conda. for me.

 

[Khazid]

As far as i am aware the PvP pros play with mouse and keyboard. Someone will the you to gid gud.

This, no need for HOTAS. Especially fixed weapons are arguably easier to use with mouse. There was a recent thread where someone complained about Mouse and Keyboard being too easy in comparison to HOTAS and that it should be harder to keep in line. Not sure if it was here or reddit...

 

[TopCat160]

Here's the thing; it's what people get good at. Talent is talent; the tools used are simply an extension of that. It's not the tool, but the person (fool) using the tool. Always has been.

QFT.

OP's talent is whining, forum his tool. Should get an award.

 

[uliando]

Join Mobius if you don't feel secure. PVE is quite easy even with mouse. Also mouse is precise AF. Hotas is fun to play with but hardcore pvp happens with mouse.