Kauruk Lockdown - Who's responsible?

I just dropped into a threat 4 USS. $ vultures are a tad too much for me in my Adder. Maybe I should have brought a bigger ship.

I've considered taking passengers. They can affect the BGS.

One thing. The OP might want to check the top 5 bounties in Kauruk, they are likely to be your culprits. I won't name and shame, but I will add them to my KOS list.

4 Pips to Shields, FAOFF and boost away after letting one land a few hits

System Security is fast and comes in good numbers, so you will soon outnumber the Pirates

For passengers, look in the surrounding systems for missions to ferry security workers [bulk passengers] into Kauruk

Look for the People in Personal Body armour

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Way people being using BGS to protest BGS of not being too immersive is so meta and ironic :)

Also yeah, CGs have that disclaimer for good reasons. Both CGs will succeed. Lockdowns maybe need to be less successful to triger (hopefully cops having better ships will help) but overall it is just so funny on both sides. It is basically personal salt poised as "yeaaah I am doing this for a game". No you ain't. You feel annoyed, can't shake feeling and try to share it.
 
In order to "turn it around" we need to know how the fight is going, who's winning etc. The rewards are low and the time (even repair costs if interdicting) outlay high and that's hard to swallow not knowing if a) you already 'won' 3 hours ago and the lockdown is being lifted tonight or b) it would take another 1,000 CMDRs in big 3 ships a day to stand a chance. Never tried fighting sys sec so maybe the other side has a higher abundance of targets too?

This is exactly where FDev should be looking if their focus is on underlying mechanics. Some insight into the BGS would be enormously useful.
 
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Way people being using BGS to protest BGS of not being too immersive is so meta and ironic :)

Also yeah, CGs have that disclaimer for good reasons. Both CGs will succeed. Lockdowns maybe need to be less successful to triger (hopefully cops having better ships will help) but overall it is just so funny on both sides. It is basically personal salt poised as "yeaaah I am doing this for a game". No you ain't. You feel annoyed, can't shake feeling and try to share it.

Except of course, when it isnt (see: 13th legion using the BGS to oppose a Fed cap ship construction CG).
 
Totally agree on this.

Its odd that we had this happen multiple times, and those that exhtol virtues of multiple game modes and the BGS mechanics are the first start shaking uncontrollably when someone uses the BGS the way its intended.

"We want to be able to affect the game in a more meaningful way, regardless of others, providing no one else can do it in a way thay affects us."

If pilots are successful in lifting the lockdown, I wonder if it'll get mentioned in Galnet. That would be the level of immersion i want but on a more consistent level.
 
The only thing I disagree with here, is the stated intent is to protest the Story line being delivered by CG, yet the CG being targetted is not a story line CG, but one about remembering people no longer with us.

I don't wish to be insensitive, and perhaps a touchy topic, but I've come to the conclusion this sort of thing shouldnt have a place in this game. For one its not entirely fair to expect folks who've bought a computer game to continually have to tippy toe around the game incase it upsets someones eulogy or remembrance event. It should go without saying that I offer condolences to folks who've lost people in life, I know the feeling all too well, but if stuff like this is carried out in game it really should be a private affair and one that doesnt emotionally blackmail or guilt others into behaving a certain way.
 
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So thought I would play some elite in some little spare time.
Filled up on rares flew to kauruk 22 jumps total now just sitting there what a wast of time.

So done with this game.
 
So thought I would play some elite in some little spare time.
Filled up on rares flew to kauruk 22 jumps total now just sitting there what a wast of time.

So done with this game.

How'd it take you 22 jumps? I did the route in 8, obviously ignoring the station that is ~200,000ls out. I was disappointed when I realised it was a waste too but a minute later I made one more jump (back towards my base) and sold the rares for half a million profit before moving on to something else. Now I know you must have other stuff to do too because the ship you are using for rare trading seems to be wrong for the job anyway. Why not use the time to outfit an AspX or something?

I'm not being smart here or anything but I'm a relatively new player and already it seems obvious to me that relying on FD to care about your fun level with their game is not at all advisable. ED is deliberately rigid in design, either you find a place of fun within what is offered or you don't, I can't see this Universe ever being "unscripted" or "opened up" so to speak and from what I have read (here and elsewhere) I don't think it was ever any different. If that's not for you that's fine, perfectly understandable, but as far as I can tell it has always been this way and so these latest "issues" shouldn't really be a surprise to anyone. So what's changed from your perspective?
 
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I don't wish to be insensitive, and perhaps a touchy topic, but I've come to the conclusion this sort of thing shouldnt have a place in this game. For one its not entirely fair to expect folks who've bought a computer game to continually have to tippy toe around the game incase it upsets someones eulogy or remembrance event. It should go without saying that I offer condolences to folks who've lost people in life, I know the feeling all too well, but if stuff like this is carried out in game it really should be a private affair and one that doesnt emotionally blackmail or guilt others into behaving a certain way.

I disagree. Part of the richness of games like ED is that they allow the players to express things that are important to them.

Just look at the power of the memorial events for the death of Sean "Vile Rat" Smith in Eve Online.

I wouldn't want special rules imposed by the devs for memorials or charity events but they shouldn't be banned either. If you choose to undertake an event in game that has special meaning for you then you need to accept the consequences of doing it in game.

The idea that such events "emotionally blackmail" players into behaving a certain way is ludicrous. This is a multiplayer game (even in Solo mode) so you cannot get away from the fact that your actions impact on other people. Every individual is making choices about their own behaviour that will impact on others. Your actions will be judged by others and they will form opinions about you.

Players are free to gank newbies, target charity events, annoy PvPers using the 15 second logout or disrupt remembrance events, if they so choose, and others will form opinions regarding their behaviour. If you feel guilt and decide not to act a certain way or simply don't care about your impact on others and what others think of you then that is your choice. You may feel that people judge you unfairly about the choices you make, and many will truly misunderstand you, but that's common to all social interaction. Asking for the like of memorial events to be removed from the game is asking for players to be protected from making complex decisions and living with the consequences in a social game. It's saying: Please FD, don't tempt us with content where I feel conflicted because I might look bad to others if I behave a certain way. I personally don't want an anaemic game that mollycoddles it's players so they can never be the bad guys or face the social consequences if they choose to be so.

I am remembering somebody with this event. I'm doing it by trying to lift the lockdown in Kauruk to enable others to take part in the CG proper. The action fits rather well the person I'm celebrating, so in a way, I guess I have the lockdown to thank for that. And I accept that the imposing the lockdown is completely valid player behaviour. It doesn't mean I haven't formed a judgement about the character of those who have tried to disrupt a Remembrance CG. They made their choice and will be judged on it. I've made mine and others can judge me on my actions and words.

I know there are lots of players who hate this stuff imposing on their fantasies. So enough on the moral consequences of our actions stuff. Anyone else up for lifting this damn lockdown?
 
This CG is about remembrance. If that means anything to you then join us in defending it.

More are answering the call.

Let's roll Cmdrs!
 
I know there are lots of players who hate this stuff imposing on their fantasies. So enough on the moral consequences of our actions stuff. Anyone else up for lifting this damn lockdown?

There should still be consequences for actions. A name we can hunt down, or a massive bounty on their head. Something to make us think "hah, jokes on you". I'm pretty certain lockdowns are considered a very illegal crime in the ED universe, so why does it feel too easy to get away with?

But yes, I'm en route as we speak.

Side note: I spent what felt like 5 minutes deleting the bits of your post I didn't need, seriously, go write a book and put your talents to use.
 
So thought I would play some elite in some little spare time.
Filled up on rares flew to kauruk 22 jumps total now just sitting there what a wast of time.

So done with this game.

Stay the course Cmdr!
Quitting is just what the malcontents hope to achieve.
We'll leave exactly why they want that to the psychologists.
 
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