Live stream format change - Ed

And yet, it is the policy towards your own stream. That is why it is in the game content section.
You will be ban if you stream an online multiplayer game using cheats, hack, bot that gives you an unfair advantage. It is also true for streaming a stream snipe using another broadcaster’s live broadcast at your advantage.

Nice try though.

I could say exactly the same thing :)
 
We had a survey with 8000 participants and it turned out that less than 50% play in Open. This survey was posted on Reddit and notnon the Forums, since Reddit is kind of pro Open I guess the results would be more towards Solo/PG if you would ask every player. So yes, it's quite clear that we have more players in Solo and PG combined.

OK thanks. Did the survey talk about aspects other than game modes? I'd like to read it if you have a link?
 
We had a survey with 8000 participants and it turned out that less than 50% play in Open. This survey was posted on Reddit and notnon the Forums, since Reddit is kind of pro Open I guess the results would be more towards Solo/PG if you would ask every player. So yes, it's quite clear that we have more players in Solo and PG combined.
Link to Survey results.

12k participants. It was posted to the main Elite Reddits and Discord servers; oddly, it wasn't allowed on the forums.

From the results, Gamemode breakdown:
  • Open = 49%
  • Group = 23%
  • Solo = 28%
We know from previous FDev statements that Solo has the most players (closely followed by Open), Open has the most playtime, and Group has much lower counts for both players and playtime. Players from Solo+Group will be higher than Players from Open.
 
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Time to move to a private group for streaming. Seeing Ed getting ganked every stream is getting old, time for a format change.

Watching Ed fuel scoop for 50 minutes is getting old, LOL. Ed's destruction was the only exciting thing about last week's (2 weeks ago?) stream. Now had he been in a proper wing of other community players, that would engage the community in a positive way and made for some interesting streaming, especially if he was being hunted.
 
Just need more of this: https://clips.twitch.tv/AdorableCrispyLardPMSTwin

With a bit more practice, a better load out, and some engineering that DBX will be damn near unkillable.

Getting away in an unarmed ship and giving the attacker a "suck it nerd, you can't get me" is almost as much fun as full on combat pvp.

Yeah but asking people to understand how a game works and get better at it is too mainstream. It is way easier to blame others.
Because exploration/trading streams are very boring and does not show what this game is, FDev should remove those activities from the game.

/s
 
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Getting away in an unarmed ship and giving the attacker a "suck it nerd, you can't get me" is almost as much fun as full on combat pvp.

This is very true. There is no doubt that Ed should probably git a bit more gud (open the galmap to select a system to high-wake to when under attack? Facepalm).

But, be careful, this is not an argument in support of streamsniping. The excuse "well, git gud"/ use your "contextual awareness" / equip better shields" is the lazy and worn-out pseudo-excuse of trolls, who try to shift the blame from their idiotic trolling to the alleged faults of the victim of their trolling. They do not want you, or Ed, to get good. They want lulz.
 
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And yet, it is the policy towards your own stream. That is why it is in the game content section.
You will be ban if you stream an online multiplayer game using cheats, hack, bot that gives you an unfair advantage. It is also true for streaming a stream snipe using another broadcaster’s live broadcast at your advantage.

Nice try though.

You can frame it in many different ways, "Open Mode", "Intended Play", "Stream Sniping", "Git Gud". Killing Ed in Open is not a problem, just as killing any other player in Open is not a problem. Killing Ed or anyone else on stream is also not a problem.

However when a group or a single person is constantly attacking the same target, to cause disruption, to make a point or to gain notoriety - this is considered harassment by Frontier. And harassment is against Frontier's T&C's. The question is whether or not they are willing to enforce this policy, or to give the community a carte-blanche go ahead to engage in such behavior by publicly implicitly, or explicitly saying these types of actions are ok.
 
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Yeah but asking people to understand how a game works and get better at it is too mainstream. It is way easier to blame others.
Because exploration/trading streams are very boring and does not show what this game is, FDev should remove those activities from the game.

/s

Seems like asking people to understand the difference between stream sniping and PvP is also too mainstream.
 
I really hope that FD devs watch Ed's streams because they highlight issues with the game they should be fixing:

  • Harassment of players
  • Flaky multicrew implementation (that stream was a car crash)
  • Need for out-of-game resources (Ed having to ask the stream where the Thargoid sites are, 'cos you cannot find them in game)
  • ... and probably lots more

Anyway, I don't tend to follow these Hotel California threads, so peace & out
 
I disagree. I think Ed should keep streaming in Open.

After all, Open is the mode Frontier are trying to get more people to play in this multi-player version of Elite; it wouldn't look good if Frontier livestreams were all done in a protected environment, free from the players who just like to "Or just hunt other commanders", as is what is in Frontier's marketing.

Ergo: Frontier should always stream in Open - they market the game as multi-player, they also keep trying to encourage everyone to play in Open, and seeing as livestreaming is a form of marketing, everyone should see what the game entails - warts and all - and if that includes being ganked at every opportunity presented to those players who "Or just hunt other commanders" - as it states in their marketing - then anything else would just be a misrepresentation of the game.

Regards

Sorry Cmdr but your thinking, it appears to me, is way off base, flawed, and almost shows an agenda.
Not to make a WoT but a highlight: How in the world is not playing in Open "misrepresenting the game" when all modes are valid?
 
Those streams don't really show how Open trully is - they do, however, show Frontier doesn't enforce the rules it has set up, in particular stream sniping. Now if Ed went pirating other players, that would show Open how it trully is and the stream would be full of combat loggers, and he'd laugh it off just the same.
 
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The excuse "well, git gud"/ use your "contextual awareness" / equip better shields" is the lazy and worn-out pseudo-excuse of trolls, who try to shift the blame from their idiotic trolling to the alleged faults of the victim of their trolling. They do not want you, or Ed, to get good. They want lulz.

I don't find this to be true at all. I interact with plenty of "griefers" and probably qualify as one by the looser elite dangerous definition of the word.

Most would love to see Ed git dud even at just escaping. Not to mention him actually gitting gud at pvp and handing out some rebuy screens to other players.

The cmdr in the corvette from my clip has posted on reddit congratulating ed on getting better.
 
Yeah but asking people to understand how a game works and get better at it is too mainstream. It is way easier to blame others.
Because exploration/trading streams are very boring and does not show what this game is, FDev should remove those activities from the game.

/s

I´m sure Twitch viewer numbers will sky rocket when you show how to mine, haul biowaste from A to B, haul Tourists from A to B, scan thousands of Planets/Moons/Stars or how you grind your engineering... in no time ED will surpass games like PUBG /s
 
You can frame it in many different ways, "Open Mode", "Intended Play", "Stream Sniping". Killing Ed in Open is not a problem, just as killing any other player in Open is not a problem. Killing Ed or anyone else on stream is also not a problem.
I was talking about twitch policy which has nothing to do with frontier policy and only apply to your own stream and not what you are doing to a streamer.


However when a group or a single person is constantly attacking the same target, to cause disruption, to make a point or to gain notoriety - this is considered harassment by Frontier. And harassment is against Frontier's T&C's. The question is whether or not they are willing to enforce this policy, or to give the community a carte-blanche go ahead to engage in such behavior by publicly implicitly, or explicitly saying these types of actions are ok.
This is not considered harassment by frontier. It can be under certain circumstances :

In addition taking action such as seeking out and targeting specific players purely for the purpose of being disruptive, to cause offence, or to upset players within the community can also be considered harassment. A perfect example of this is deliberately attempting to disrupt public livestreams such as the charity ones mentioned before. This includes, but is not limited to, the capturing of footage and releasing it publically in an attempt to create upset or gain notoriety through the actions listed above.


The question is whether or not they are willing to enforce this policy, or to give the community a carte-blanche go ahead to engage in such behavior by publicly implicitly, or explicitly saying these types of actions are ok.
For sure FDev have to work on this.
 
Sorry Cmdr but your thinking, it appears to me, is way off base, flawed, and almost shows an agenda.
Not to make a WoT but a highlight: How in the world is not playing in Open "misrepresenting the game" when all modes are valid?

That's because I did have an agenda, and if only you had read my subsequent posts before responding... ;)
 
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