Will Elite Dangerous have Atmospheric Landings, Space Legs or Procedural Cities by 2019?
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Currently a large portion of the player base don't want to pay for another season.
The Frontier Expo 2017 video currently has about 47k views. By comparison the "tech demo" of the other space sim has more than 300k views. That's because while the core improvements for ED are very important to retain and increase active players, Frontier didn't show anything amazing. The other space sim blew people away with procedural cities, space legs and atmospheric planets.
Expecting people to stick around and wait a whole year to get core gameplay improvements of Beyond Q4 is a tall order. What's announced for Q4 should come much sooner like Q3 to save and increase the active player base. The majority of people who bought ED already stopped playing. The relatively small percentage of active players remaining won't wait another few years to land on barren Earth-like planets.
Frontier must release something mind blowing in order to persuade enough people to pay for the season after Beyond and any big premium content.
For example release: basic atmospheric landings + basic procedural cities (to make planets feel alive) + space legs in a limited amount of ships. All these things could be gradually expanded. That would convince many existing players to buy it. Because it's in the top of their wishlist. It could attract a significant amount of new players as well.
The Frontier Expo 2017 video currently has about 47k views. By comparison the "tech demo" of the other space sim has more than 300k views. That's because while the core improvements for ED are very important to retain and increase active players, Frontier didn't show anything amazing. The other space sim blew people away with procedural cities, space legs and atmospheric planets.
Expecting people to stick around and wait a whole year to get core gameplay improvements of Beyond Q4 is a tall order. What's announced for Q4 should come much sooner like Q3 to save and increase the active player base. The majority of people who bought ED already stopped playing. The relatively small percentage of active players remaining won't wait another few years to land on barren Earth-like planets.
Frontier must release something mind blowing in order to persuade enough people to pay for the season after Beyond and any big premium content.
For example release: basic atmospheric landings + basic procedural cities (to make planets feel alive) + space legs in a limited amount of ships. All these things could be gradually expanded. That would convince many existing players to buy it. Because it's in the top of their wishlist. It could attract a significant amount of new players as well.
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it's easy to show wonderfull video of amazing things that are never released. Sadly, FD have the bad habit to release what they show.
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I don't know (who does I guess lol), but I would see it would be in Frontier's interests to have moved towards these features before Star Citizen drops. Not that its do or die or one or the other, but still would make good business sense I think.
We don't know when they'll release those things to the general public. But when they finally do and ED has no proper response to their mind-blowing features then it'll cause an exodus of the ED player base to some degree.
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Yeah, no... latest reveal at Frontier Expo totally didn't cover the fact that we ARE getting new planetary graphics...
*Sigh*
Kids nowadays.
I would predict no, no, and more no.
If we all abandon ship for that other space sim that recently showed off all that stuff, then there will be nobody left here to develop it for.
Or, conversely, if we don't all abandon ship for that other space sim that recently showed off all that stuff, then obviously it isn't needed.
If we all abandon ship for that other space sim that recently showed off all that stuff, then there will be nobody left here to develop it for.
Or, conversely, if we don't all abandon ship for that other space sim that recently showed off all that stuff, then obviously it isn't needed.
I would start holding my breath... I mean, after 5 years of development, it can be here any minute.
They showed more detailed airless planets which is cool. Their vague plans to add more content and stuff-to-do is good too.
However, we've had access to airless planets since 15th of December 2015.
Reality check: it's now almost 2018.
At this sluggish development speed we won't land on any Earth-like world by 2020 or later.
I'm not really excited about gas giants. If they announce that instead meh.
By the way, we haven't seen any tech-transfers from Planet Coaster or Jurassic World to Elite Dangerous. Such as Planet Coaster has crowd simulation. Jurassic World could be used to add alien creatures to planets.
Well, the planetary settlements are still Ghost Towns without a single NPC ground-vehicle or person walking around.
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While atmospheric landings and spacelegs would be good, I'd much rather Frontier spend their dev resources on fleshing out core game mechanics. Take spacelegs for instance, imagine FDev were to announce them right this minute. What would you do in the game? You'd have EVA which would be essentially a slow, tiny DPS version of SLF's (complete with a confusing explanation of how it's a hologram that goes out there) and ground exploration which would be No Man's Sky with color saturation dialed all the way down. There's literally nothing you can do in the game that would be improved by doing it on foot - the mechanics just don't exist.
Exactly. I see a lot of people here smugly claim that SC is never going to be a real product, and that's just not the point. Space games are making a comeback - look at how ED and SC often make mainstream news - and it's pretty safe to assume that at least one major studio is working on something a lot better than Infinite Warfare. By 2019 SC may not matter any more, because everyone left ED anyway for Bethesda's or CD Projekt Red's space game.
And when/if that happens Elite will be a better game, why? Because all the moaning little (insert four letter word of your choice here) wil no longer be here. All the little gankers will move on and we can get back to having serious discussion's instead of listening to players who only know how to hate everything due to being depressed and un-happy with their own lives.
Think this may well deserve a thread on the matter... Coming soon!
Atom. and legs? Huge task that I can wait for as I have an entire galaxy to fly around. That other game is going to be smaller than Colonia and will get old fast as players start to moan about everything just as they have here.
actually, people that live in one single game are very few, could provide a living for a small indie shop at best. the bulk of the market are casuals and folks that play many games in succession or even in parallel. every game/new release has its primetime plus a slow trickle in the background. there's room for all. if ed continues (?) to produce content they will still be game.
the times of wow type monopoly are long over, and sc is for now just a social aberration.
At ED's current rate of release it will be 2040 before we see anything meaningful in terms of development of space legs, atmospheric planets and what not...
I distinctly remember Mr Brooks staring that the lights are just decoration. When landable earth likes appear they'll use a different system for defining populated areas (and continents for that matter).
Hope that doesn't break illusion, because night sides do look nice!
Lets hope SC has amazing ganking potential. With systems you can blockade and lots of guilds so little people can act as if they're important because they are lieutenant head chief officer of the north west wing of the internal department from some ridiculously named faction.
I'll miss those guys
Yeah. The Pope poops in the woods, bears wear funny hats, and players moan about everything.
See I have this knee (no, I did not take an arrow to it) which hurts like a blubberducker, and I went to the doctor and she just went ... yeah .... live with it. While 20 years ago I would have been put through physiotherapy to correct all that. Medical science has given up on me [sad]
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