Modes Elite Dangerous PvE vs PvP and who needs a Solo play if you had PvE server

My sentiments exactly.

So lets end all this and just remove open mode altogether.
That way Frontier can focus on making great content without having to worry about the minority.

:)

Why not just eliminate PvP entirely? Or is that the same as eliminating open? :)
 

Robert Maynard

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Why not just eliminate PvP entirely? Or is that the same as eliminating open? :)

Eliminating PvP from any game mode, whether Private Group or an Open-PvE mode, would seem to be a non-trivial task - as every player interaction that could be considered to be PvP would need to be mitigated.

Eliminating Open would be trivial by comparison - simply remove the option to play using that set of matchmaking criteria.
 
Eliminating PvP from any game mode, whether Private Group or an Open-PvE mode, would seem to be a non-trivial task - as every player interaction that could be considered to be PvP would need to be mitigated.

Eliminating Open would be trivial by comparison - simply remove the option to play using that set of matchmaking criteria.

But if a player can still shoot at/kill another player in a PG (desired or not), what's gained by eliminating open? I'm missing something here.
 
But if a player can still shoot at/kill another player in a PG (desired or not), what's gained by eliminating open? I'm missing something here.

Well, lots of the complaints are because people are not playing open and the GSPs are lonely. (for some weird reason, they don't want to paly with each other :p ).

So removing open, stops all their arguments of locking content or people to open.
They also know they can be banned very easily from PGs - so they either learn to be nice to others, or have to play with themselves.

Removing Open fixes all the problems for everyone :D
 
This is beautifully nostalgic, a throwback to the old SOG threads, RM and Jockey not being messiahs but being very naughty boys! :D
 
This is beautifully nostalgic, a throwback to the old SOG threads, RM and Jockey not being messiahs but being very naughty boys! :D

You know, for it to be perfect, we are missing someone.

Without Manjavash here to over react to my counter suggestion of removing open to his suggestion of removing Solo/PGs - it's just not the same.
In fact, now I think about it, we also need GF to say the same things as Maj, but in his polite way that we all respected.

I miss the old days. They were fun.
 
You know, for it to be perfect, we are missing someone.

Without Manjavash here to over react to my counter suggestion of removing open to his suggestion of removing Solo/PGs - it's just not the same.
In fact, now I think about it, we also need GF to say the same things as Maj, but in his polite way that we all respected.

I miss the old days. They were fun.

I'll try roleplaying the part buddy but I'm not very good.........

"We are providing the emergent content that the game doesn't and can't provide, you lot sit here crying and moaning about what we do but the game is richer for us. Honestly you are a bunch of scrub carebear forumdads and we love feeding off you constant salt delivery. We aren't ever gonna stop, we will keep invading Mobius, we will keep ramming you and we will keep delivering our excellent emergent content, either 'git gud' or get out.

The Voice of Open"

.........how was that?

:D
 
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Well, lots of the complaints are because people are not playing open and the GSPs are lonely. (for some weird reason, they don't want to paly with each other :p ).

So removing open, stops all their arguments of locking content or people to open.
They also know they can be banned very easily from PGs - so they either learn to be nice to others, or have to play with themselves.

Removing Open fixes all the problems for everyone :D

Totally agreed here. And since Open uses "extra" resources beyond the base game (balancing ships for PvP purposes/Engineers, keeping social groups occupied, etc.) this would actually be a boon for FD because they can spend less time catering to one group or another and instead give everyone the same content equally with no favoritism being applied. No more "combat" focus, but instead Traders, Explorers, etc. can get some much needed content love, too.

All they need to do is add much-needed controls for PvP/PvE flagging to Private Groups and voila! Problems solved.
 
Totally agreed here. And since Open uses "extra" resources beyond the base game (balancing ships for PvP purposes/Engineers, keeping social groups occupied, etc.) this would actually be a boon for FD because they can spend less time catering to one group or another and instead give everyone the same content equally with no favoritism being applied. No more "combat" focus, but instead Traders, Explorers, etc. can get some much needed content love, too.

All they need to do is add much-needed controls for PvP/PvE flagging to Private Groups and voila! Problems solved.

Ok, so basically you let the GSPers run amok in the PGs, eventually getting themselves banned (like drug addicts, they can't help themselves), and then we have more or less a PvE only game? Kinda sorta works, but I agree, the PvP flag will still be needed.

Virtual rep++ :)
 
Ok, so basically you let the GSPers run amok in the PGs, eventually getting themselves banned (like drug addicts, they can't help themselves), and then we have more or less a PvE only game? Kinda sorta works, but I agree, the PvP flag will still be needed.

Virtual rep++ :)

Exactly! They can use PG's as their "Arena/CQC" mode. Like-minded players may play with others, just as Mobius/PvE does now. No Open mode needed. :D
 
Totally agreed here. And since Open uses "extra" resources beyond the base game (balancing ships for PvP purposes/Engineers, keeping social groups occupied, etc.) this would actually be a boon for FD because they can spend less time catering to one group or another and instead give everyone the same content equally with no favoritism being applied. No more "combat" focus, but instead Traders, Explorers, etc. can get some much needed content love, too.

All they need to do is add much-needed controls for PvP/PvE flagging to Private Groups and voila! Problems solved.


I would love just PVE/PVP flags for PG's and leave open alone.. that way if they slip into a PG to run amok and cause havoc they have no teeth to even inconvenience someone.
 

Goose4291

Banned
I'll try roleplaying the part buddy but I'm not very good.........

"We are providing the emergent content that the game doesn't and can't provide, you lot sit here crying and moaning about what we do but the game is richer for us. Honestly you are a bunch of scrub carebear forumdads and we love feeding off you constant salt delivery. We aren't ever gonna stop, we will keep invading Mobius, we will keep ramming you and we will keep delivering our excellent emergent content, either 'git gud' or get out.

The Voice of Open"

.........how was that?

:D

3/10 Majinvash post.

Has the style, but hasnt resulted in a ban for the flimsiest of pretexts.

All they need to do is add much-needed controls for PvP/PvE flagging to Private Groups and voila! Problems solved.

Weirdly if you look through the back history of a lot of the people you're arguing with, this has been suggested by them previously in the past.

The problem then starts when you get into the minutiae of what is classed as pvp
 
3/10 Majinvash post.

Has the style, but hasnt resulted in a ban for the flimsiest of pretexts.



Weirdly if you look through the back history of a lot of the people you're arguing with, this has been suggested by them previously in the past.

The problem then starts when you get into the minutiae of what is classed as pvp


shooting other ships, ramming them... I'd go as far as to say blocking the slot but that is me.
 
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