Basic question about ED is it MMO or Co-op single player.
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The problem with broad definitions is that they become meaningless. If ED is an MMO then practically every MP game out there is an MMO.
What's the "typical" haul you get from, let's say, a T9 if you pirate it?
Many games that are less MMO than ED advertise themselves as an MMO. They might even be right calling themselves MMOs.
If its got a mining configuration, often over 200 tons of LTDs. Usually more than you can carry yourself. I weep when i leave a T9 with LTDs on board, i often destroy them out of spite
That's over 10 million in lewt!If non-mining, basically you can get allsorts, from biowaste, to consumer goods, to meat, or anything, often with several different things, so you end up scooping up the low value stuff with the good.
By Massive do you mean the size? I'd disagree I think as it's not that big at all. If we compare art assets with other games, ED fails miserably on the amount of work done. Compare something like The Division and how much work went into all the 3D models - so all the clothing, all the guns, all the attachments and then step out into the game world and take a look at all the vehicles, people, buildings, POI's, weather effects.
ED is basically balls in a void with the same space stations here and there throughout the entire galaxy.
WoW has huge worlds filled with more art assets than you can shake a stick at. ED's art assets on the other hand whilst brilliant work, aren't that much. There's 20-30 ships and a handful of stations.
On a WoW server there may be about 6000 people I can potentially meet. In ED I can potentially meet all other players. I can't meet them at the same time, but I can meet them.
If I happened to like someone on a WoW forum and wanted to play with them, there would be a good chance one of us would have to switch servers. Perhaps both, if the server was full. It's like ED with PG only.
Yeah, the borders between genres are tougher to define these days.
Many games feature elements from genres outside of their own, there is a lot of overlap.
On a MMO site (Massively Overpowered, short MOP), which mainly reports on MMORPGS, they came up with an elegantly named subsection when writing about such games.
They call it "Not so Massively", and it covers many of those in-between games.
ED has been featured there too, among others.
Lots of recent talk around here about definitions methinks, is that the 2018 theme ?
I think you will find that a lot of those art assets are copy and pasted. If you are talking about assets you can move around in then ED trumps nearly every game ever made (maybe not NMS, but the planets are tiny in NMS) by just landing on any average sized planet, then include all the planets to that too.
As to the division, that game world is tiny compared to ED, so it is much easier to fill it up with stuff. In ED you have lots of different internal types of station a number of different out sides of the stations, all the ships, all the internals of the ships, the thargoid bases, the guardian ruins, the ruined ships, all the different types of mega ships, the flora on certain planets, the thargoids, planetary bases, planetary outpost, skimmers, player avatars and all the different versions we have, the UI. I'm sure there are a lot more that I haven't though of.
Now just imagine putting all those things into a tiny map the size of the division.
On a WoW server there may be about 6000 people I can potentially meet. In ED I can potentially meet all other players. I can't meet them at the same time, but I can meet them.
If I happened to like someone on a WoW forum and wanted to play with them, there would be a good chance one of us would have to switch servers. Perhaps both, if the server was full. It's like ED with PG only.
WoW has crossrealm, you can play with a friend from another server without any problems
Yeah, the borders between genres are tougher to define these days.
Many games feature elements from genres outside of their own, there is a lot of overlap.
On a MMO site (Massively Overpowered, short MOP), which mainly reports on MMORPGS, they came up with an elegantly named subsection when writing about such games.
They call it "Not so Massively", and it covers many of those in-between games.
ED has been featured there too, among others.
Lots of recent talk around here about definitions methinks, is that the 2018 theme ?
Maybe we need a completely new type of definition, but really, is it that important.
Doesn't it come from "MMORPG"?
Wikipedia is an MMO
I don't have a magic answer to this; But.. Let's take Everquest as an example. I assume, everyone agrees it was one of the founding games of the MMO genre..
It could cope with thousands of players on the same server. For example, quite often, I would bring my shammy to the Guild Halls or Plane of Tranquility and cast speed and mana buffs on hundreds of players at a time. No lag, no connection issues.
As game architecture progressed, larger and larger numbers of online players could co-exist on the same server. True direct interaction, trading, grouping, raiding, all at the same time, without hiccup.
ED on the other hand, falls over as soon as you get a couple of players in the same instance. MultiCrew constantly falls over with just 2 players. ED is just not built to be MMO friendly. Not just the net architecture, but also the basic design. Example: Goto any combat CG. Enter the HazRez and try to get a few bounties while the other 2 wings clean up. Anyways that OT.
Because most of the work is done via the P2P connection and you're own PC, not by the servers. Try running PlanetSide 2 on ED's servers and it would collapse as would any other MMO out there.
*cough*....Planetside 2....*cough*.....Falcon 4 (a 2 decade old game)...*cough*...Armed Assault 1,2 and 3....*cough*....Player Battlegrounds Unknown....*cough*
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I was talking about the BGS side, we are all connected to the servers and they do scale. That has nothing to do with P2P.
Ah yes, PUBG... A game that gets even worse critics than ED because of their poor network infrastructure (at least last time I checked)...*cough*....Planetside 2....*cough*.....Falcon 4 (a 2 decade old game)...*cough*...Armed Assault 1,2 and 3....*cough*....Player Battlegrounds Unknown....*cough*
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But will also run on it's own with zero player input and essentially is a text changing tool to rename systems in a grindy and shallow way.
its an SP game with limited MP functionality. Its not an MMO. MMO used to mean something, IE MANY people playing TOGETHER at the same time, now its a buzz word meaning many people playing separate in a sort-of multiplayer mode... Go on Steam and categorise by MMO, see how many are real MMO's...
ED is what i like to call a Spreadsheet game...Loads of people playing alone changing numbers on a sophisticated spreadsheet (not literally)...Once a week someone clicks "Save" and stuff changes, nothing is real time, its more turn-based.
ED is what i like to call a Spreadsheet game...Loads of people playing alone changing numbers on a sophisticated spreadsheet (not literally)...Once a week someone clicks "Save" and stuff changes, nothing is real time, its more turn-based.
No, it doesn't run on it's own, without player input it's static AFAIK.
Spreadsheets are what MMOs come from.