As you mention, Indians are in some states 100 % vegan, and the Indian cuisine is well known for vegan food recipes.

And how far will you go? because there are vegans and then there are VEGANS!....
This is the thing: Going true vegan is really hard, in this day of animal product usage. Remember the new £5 note issue with Islam? Well that now applies to vegans. You have to think about the simple question. What if I find out that I have not been faithful to my desire, by eating something that you did not get out of a package you can read the contents of? There is a lot of man made stuff you can ues out there, but man uses animals to make a lot of stuff as well. Labelling in the UK is great for such groups as vegans, but you can't check or trust, everything.

Good luck and fair play to your new direction. Just try not to get silly about it and if you can stick to it religiously? Treat yourself with just one bacon sandwich, every now and then. :D
 
Been a vegetarian for 10+ years. Just recently (6 months ago) went full Vegan for pure selfish health reasons. The hardest part of going vegan is ditching CHEESE. Countless of newly born vegans swear to that.

I'm still struggling with that one but it's slowly losing it's grip on me. One part is the taste sensation and the other part is the awarding morphine effect in cheese (look it up).

I never moralize or speak about veganism with meat eaters. The subject itself is too stigmatized thanks to some aggressive activities made by short term thinkers in the past.

Anyway, good luck and enjoy a healthier life. Don't forget to stack up on B12 tho... [up]
 
You have to think about the simple question. What if I find out that I have not been faithful to my desire, by eating something that you did not get out of a package you can read the contents of?
There is one simple answer: nothing. You try to suck less as best as you can. Finding out means you may get to do better in the future.

Great to bring up that vegan isn't just a diet though ;)

Been a vegetarian for 10+ years. Just recently (6 months ago) went full Vegan for pure selfish health reasons. The hardest part of going vegan is ditching CHEESE. Countless of newly born vegans swear to that.

Never been into cheese myself, ever.
(apart from pizza - but vegan variants for that stuff are easy to come by here)

If you've got cash to splash, look at these:

http://www.serotonina.com.pl/en
http://kojiterie.com

And there is more like it.
 
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We've had several recipes from www.forksoverknives.com and they've been good.

I recently made the switch to vegetarianism so I'm in the same boat I suppose - experimenting with cooking new dishes and whatnot. :)

Thanks for the link.

I'm not vegetarian and I'm certainly not vegan.

That being said I eat (and cook) a lot of vegetarian food.

I can't do the moral objection to killing animals because I do like a good steak but I fully understand people choosing that lifestyle and I support their choice as long as they aren't rabid anti-meat fascists.

From my point of view: Who the hell wants to eat meat everyday anyway? It's not a balanced diet and tofu and other textured soy products rock.

Thanks to living in a sub-tropical climate I do a lot of salads and also stuff with fruit.

I don't drink cow's milk ever (but I do eat cheese and make my own yogurt) and I can't stand soy milk or almond milk (yuk!).

More power to y'all for going totally vegan. As has been said it is a big challenge.

[Edit] Being Elite wouldn't Vegans come from Vega?

Vega, also designated Alpha Lyrae (α Lyrae, abbreviated Alpha Lyr or α Lyr), is the brightest star in the constellation of Lyra, the fifth-brightest star in the night sky, and the second-brightest star in the northern celestial hemisphere, after Arcturus. It is relatively close at only 25 light-years from the Sun, and, together with Arcturus and Sirius, one of the most luminous stars in the Sun's neighborhood.

Vega-espanak-e1468969973634.jpg

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Flax seeds are great for the hunger issue. They have the ability to make your stomach feels like it's full, despite not having to eat much of them at all. I do that at work so I'm not bored and snacking on everything possible all day long and it really works great. Read about in the news a number of times before I decided to try it out myself. Plus it's cheap as hell...
 
These are excellent and while not entirely vegan, many recipes are/or are easily converted:

https://www.amazon.com/Moosewood-Restaurant-Cooks-Home-Recipes/dp/0671679929

also

https://www.amazon.com/Fields-Greens-Vegetarian-Celebrated-Restaurant/dp/0553091395


That said there are *many* ways to eat healthy.
Don't let fear-mongering rule your world.
There's a lot of misinformation floating about, in particular there are a few horrible movies a lot of people seem to be watching lately.
I hope "What the Health" or its ilk are not what you're referring to.

Great writeup here for the layperson:

https://www.vox.com/science-and-hea...what-the-health-documentary-review-vegan-diet

TL,DR: It's a crap movie full of fallacies and misrepresentations.
 

Avago Earo

Banned
Some meat producers have had to talk with anti-terroism authorities over death threats from vegan extremists.

I've got no problem with someone else not eating animal products. I think it's daft, but I'm not going to get in your way.

So it's rather disappointing that a small group of extremists think they have the right to tell me what I can and cannot eat.

What I eat is my business. If that means a cow is killed... Well I'm sorry, but biologically us humans are predators.

Who told you what you can or cannot eat? It's not right to threaten people working in animal agriculture with violence. Where in my post about vegan recipes did I give you the idea that I thought that was okay?

By the way, what evidence do you have that we are natural predators? Our little canines? Can you imagine getting hold of a wild animal and taking it down with your fingernails and nibbling at it with our little teeth. Do you think the Lions might be better built for that?

One thing, though, is that there are extremists in so many walks of life. Not with me. I want some tasty recipes.
 

Avago Earo

Banned
With a Crass logo I thought you already were vegan. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Jos-Vegan-Nosh-97-mouth-watering-vegan-recipes-/222656065425

This is a recipe book of a dear friend who sadly died of cancer back in 2013. The book is a kind of fund raiser for activist groups like Hunt Sabs etc. I have been vegan since 1997, had a few slip ups on the way, but overall I feel great. Check this book out it's only a fiver :) Good job mate you won't regret this choice.

Oh and bananas I eat 10 -15 a day. Helps to rid hunger and give you boundless energy. 6 pack is en route. Remember they are made in the kitchen.

No, I wasn't a vegan. Crass covered everything across the board really, didn't they? I know this thread could veer off, so I'll be brief as I think the mods are having a hard time (not with the rockers anymore), but in answer to your post I know where you're coming from.

Last year these forums had some political threads and I joined in, but it just became a slagging match. It got heated and I understand why the mods closed them down (got a few strikes myself). I don't want this thread closed down.

It was an informed choice for me to adopt a vegan lifestyle, and other people can make their own minds up. Despite the news headlines, most people are loving and caring, although we may have disagreements.

I've made a decision that I think is more peaceful, but I won't judge people for doing what I was doing just two days ago.
 

Avago Earo

Banned
Been a vegetarian for 10+ years. Just recently (6 months ago) went full Vegan for pure selfish health reasons. The hardest part of going vegan is ditching CHEESE. Countless of newly born vegans swear to that.

I'm still struggling with that one but it's slowly losing it's grip on me. One part is the taste sensation and the other part is the awarding morphine effect in cheese (look it up).

I never moralize or speak about veganism with meat eaters. The subject itself is too stigmatized thanks to some aggressive activities made by short term thinkers in the past.

Anyway, good luck and enjoy a healthier life. Don't forget to stack up on B12 tho... [up]

Cheers.

'I never moralize or speak about veganism with meat eaters' I don't want to do that either. I think it's arrogant. I'm going to enjoy food that doesn't involve animals. Other people can enjoy their choices as they wish.

'The subject itself is too stigmatized thanks to some aggressive activities made by short term thinkers in the past.' Yes, one of the posts on this thread reflects that, and I understand why people object because of extremist actions.
 

Avago Earo

Banned
Thanks for all the replies and responses so far. All of them.

I know we all have different perspectives and experiences.

I'm going to make a curry, and here's what I'm making it with:

Mushrooms (lots of, for meaty texture), Cauliflower, Courgettes, Tomato Puree, Garlic, Onions, Chick Peas, Garam Masala (Northern), Cumin, Corriander (powder, not fresh as I want to flash fry it at the beginning).

And my neighbours dog to finish off the leftovers ;)
 
Technically, most legitimate curry's are vegan.

My girlfriend is going plant based (because she loves honey) and I'm "mostly" vegetarian. (Because I like eggs, fish and chicken).

But I won't cook meat in the house for my girlfriends sake. I basically only eat meat out. And only chicken or fish.

My girlfriend and I have a nice curry recipe you can try. Without too much detail use the following, adjusting to your portion size of course.
(We make enough curry for 4, and eat it over 2 days)
Veggies are;
3x Bell peppers, diced
1x leek (or 2x onion), sliced and diced
2-3x carrots, peeled and diced
1x large sweet potato (peeled and chopped in to cubes)
1-2 x Normal white/red potatoes (peeled and chopped in to cubes)
1x red chili, finely diced
1x 300~g Pack of green beans, chopped to 1cm chuncks
1x Cauliflower, chopped.
Small price of Fresh ginger, peeled and grated.
Coriander bunch, lose chopped.
Optional Spinach

You'll also need rice, or naan, a pre-mixed (or make your own) curry powder, curry leaves, bay leaves, garam masala, and tinned tomatoes or pasatta, and a tin coconut milk and a veggie stock cube or two.

If you're in a bit of a hurry, boil the cauliflower, green beans, sweet, and normal potatoes until almost tender.
Otherwise, soften leeks and peppers in frying pan, then add the rest of the veg (booked or not) to brown a bit.
Once semi tender, add your chosen spice mix, ginger, lots of curry leaves, 2 bay leaves and garam masala spice to taste. Fry for 1 minute on lowish, DO NOT BURN.
Take off the heat and add the pasatta/tomatoes. Sir in everything (as best you can, it'll likely not be enough)
Make up some stock, about 500ml, and add it until the veggies are covered.
Put on low heat and cover to simmer until the veggies are done and soft (or if you pre-boiled, just until you're bored. Lol)
Take lid off and reduce the liquid down until it's dry.
Then add the coriander, stir in.
Then add as much coconut milk as you see fit. Don't shake the tin, just use the buttery stuff, unless you want a wetter curry.
Stir in, taste.
It might need a pinch of sugar to balance.

Make your rice/naan or whatever.

Serve!

Nom.

I probably missed stuff, but just improvise. Lol

CMDR Cosmic Spacehead
 
Although still a fish and dairy eater I've not had any other meat in over 25 years. I suggest you slowly cut down on animal products. Most people who quit vegan tend to go vegan from a diet heavy in animal products and end up backsliding. Ease into it slowly. Give your mind, body and cooking skills a chance to adjust or you might end up with a mouthful of pork-rinds and Cheez-Whiz.
Good luck
 
@PK That is why I tried including alternatives that are plant based and could be used to replace the texture/taste as much as possible - from firsthand experience the first few years are naturally the hardest. Luckily over the years my spouse and I have managed to find a balance in our diets - the "no food with a face" rule was relaxed when she took into account some of my life experiences as growing up I was crew on a friend's sailboat during summer break in the Caribbean. We ate what we caught and respected the sacrifice (Take only what you need, make sure you do so sustainably, waste nothing, etc.).

To this day I no longer eat pork or chicken (I actually PREFER the veggie alternatives), beef is a once or twice a year thing, but seafood (especially sashimi and conch fritters) is now a main staple.

@AE - My wife said to tell you that in these early days TVP (Textured Veggetable Protien) is your friend as it can be used as a straight sub-out for pork/beef in a lot of recipies. This evening US EST Time Zone she will look up and I will post links for some Vegan YouTube Channels that she has found to be of use. Good luck to you in your journey. Remember that if Bill Clinton can make the switch in his 60s successfully you should do fine...
 

Jenner

I wish I was English like my hero Tj.
Although still a fish and dairy eater I've not had any other meat in over 25 years. I suggest you slowly cut down on animal products. Most people who quit vegan tend to go vegan from a diet heavy in animal products and end up backsliding. Ease into it slowly. Give your mind, body and cooking skills a chance to adjust or you might end up with a mouthful of pork-rinds and Cheez-Whiz.
Good luck

I'm trying to square this with your forum name. :D

Seriously, though, you make some good points.
 
Although still a fish and dairy eater I've not had any other meat in over 25 years. I suggest you slowly cut down on animal products. Most people who quit vegan tend to go vegan from a diet heavy in animal products and end up backsliding. Ease into it slowly. Give your mind, body and cooking skills a chance to adjust or you might end up with a mouthful of pork-rinds and Cheez-Whiz.
Good luck

We eat a vegan light diat in our house, mostly fish and chicken, very rare meat from pigs or oxe. Once in a while I go nuts and go to a BBQ restaurant and eat until I pop! My body feels very uncomfortable after that, almost like getting serious drunk, and deal with the hangovers.
 
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