Seems like it. Never realised there are so many unhappy people playing space games.
Does anyone else feel like Beyond is a graceful exit strategy ?
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Seems like it. Never realised there are so many unhappy people playing space games.
It's interesting...
I've more than got my money's worth out of my Kickstarter contribution to ED, so I can't complain on that front I guess. But within a year or two I was getting concerned it wasn't going where they gave the impression it was going to during the campaign.
And indeed on the back of that, it actually stopped me from kickstarting other titles (eg: Dual Universe)...
I believe you did like the expectations you had for the game at 1.0, not the actual game. 3.0 is hardly worse than 1.0.
Anyway, my post wasn't really directed at you personally, more of a general statment. For example I don't believe that you are sad the game isn't Eve
Should've made that clear.
Could you explain what specifically got destroyed for you personally by 2.1? I am not a mind reader and since 100 Elite players have 200 different views on the game it's not easy to know what your specific problem with the game is.
Apart from the power creep and related grind that prevents me from hopping into some quick PvP battles it's that the vanilla game just got tedious as well, because of buffed AI ships that are just bulletsponges with same rewards as before but take significant longer to beat and spawn randomly on me.
I'm certainly not grinding some inane stuff out to just get where I was already before 2.1 went live.
For
Every
Single
Ship
And it looks like it's gonna be even worse: For every single sodden module on every single sodden ship.
What's the point of flying different ships anymore? I'd never get to upgrade them reasonably anyway. What's the point of trying different weapons? I'd never get to upgrade them reasonably anyway.
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This does raise my eyebrows... So I want to try long range beam weapons on a Vulture... The amount of time to outfit it and then engineer it up to a reasonable level just to then go and do some missions in it???? Why bother!
Surely the idea of the game is to spend time doing fun gameplay, not doing a tedious time consuming "job" upgrading things...
EDIT: Again, at least letting us upgrade with any unlocked engineer in any station removes some of these needless grind hurdles.
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Yup. And Horizons was essentially a second stealth-kickstarter, which delivered about as well as the first one. I'm happy to spend more money with Frontier, but only for finished work after it's done. Their promises and pitches hold no water for me at this point.
Over the entire 3 year lifetime of the game since release. This doesn't tell us much about how the game is doing NOW.
And it's always weird to me when people prop up Frontier's performance statements as evidence that *Elite* is doing great. "Hey look Frontier is thriving!" Ok great. That's good. But for all we know they could be thriving precisely because they aren't wasting money on developing Elite any further. Frontier =/= Elite, Elite =/= Frontier.
I'm not going to make any claims one way or another, but it's worth recognizing that there's nothing in these reports which necessarily contradict the "Elite is being phased out" meme.
Dont worry, sales report and steam sales indicate that plenty of people keep spending plenty of pennies on their stuff. Its tempting to think that behind you stands an army of like-minded people and that there are Grave Consequences for betraying your trust or some such, but the simple reality is that ED has been pretty much a fun game to the average person, been well received by the media and has been a financial pillar to the company. Many gamers moved on to other fun games, as gamers typically do, while new players take their place.
And when they release atmo planets or some such, people will spend their few bucks.
Bronze revenue award on steam for 2017, and that is just PC (although by now almost surely the dominant platform on pc sales).
Blackcompany
Banned
Spot on. They literally just reskinned the 1984 game in HD. Complete with all the technical limitations and bare bones Mechanics fully intact.
They'll never be able to please everyone who plays. Regardless of how developed it becomes and what goes into the game, there will always be that "next level" that people want. This is the case with every game out there.. you won't find one where people haven't made statements about what could be better.
Personally I think FDev is doing a great job.. I'm enjoying the hell out of what they've created so far and look forward to what they may be bringing down the road.
When it does eventually die off, so be it. Every game does eventually.
Personally I think FDev is doing a great job.. I'm enjoying the hell out of what they've created so far and look forward to what they may be bringing down the road.
When it does eventually die off, so be it. Every game does eventually.
Yes, literally. Who can forget the multiple ships in Elite, the in-depth ship customization, the BGS, the sprawling galaxy, the planetary landings, the 6D flight model, multiplayer gameplay and all that. I remember driving my SRV into the sunset in the original, towards an alien base where I could enter if I brought the correct alien artifacts. Man, that game was amazing. Shame they just re-skinned. Literally.
I think you literally never played the game, literally intentionally talk crap or literally suffer from amnesia. Like, literally.
This gave me a good chuckle.Heh, I have to admit when it comes to hyperbole and the misuse of the word 'literally' I tend to respond literally like Hitler.
Heh, I have to admit when it comes to hyperbole and the misuse of the word 'literally' I tend to respond literally like Hitler.
Just don't go offing yourself when the war is over... figuratively speaking.
Some of us would miss your brand of silly around here.Heh, I have to admit when it comes to hyperbole and the misuse of the word 'literally' I tend to respond literally like Hitler.
It's a brand of humor I can appreciate.
I just play Solo or PG most of the time. Since I am not interested in getting killed in PvP (which would happen with and without Engineers) there isn't much I miss.
It's more like evidence that Frontier is not doing bad, because that's the claim I replied to.
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Same with me.
I think preorders did a lot more harm to game industry than good and created lot of bad mood on both sides.
Also I don't particularly care if lot of people still willing to shell out their cash on non-existent products. I cast my vote.
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You can get other shareholder reports by FD and compare unit numbers. Last time I think it was 2.9M or something. That was around 31st May last year.
So potentially 350k units for 8 months - not bad, not bad at all. Also I agree with FD sentiment that they still have lot of unlock with Horizons for both XBO and PS4.
Also I will point out that this is *official* report for shareholders, lying in it can open leading officers to lawsuit. And FD is saying that PC and ED carries on being successful franchises.
So please show me when gaming company has 'phased out' successful franchise.
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completely agree.
exactly. however, i'm skeptical that the handful forumdaddies buying paintjobs by the dozens constitute a solid revenue stream, no matter how much they tout it around on the forum. i have no numbers either, but my guess is the revenue is just enough to argue against scrapping the project for now before shareholders. this is why i take this to be a 'stay low' strategy. they know the gameplay is substandard, they don't know how to do better, they'll try their best to get by because the real revenue is in the hype feeded launches. they are just preparing for the next. it is probably 2019, and probably atmo landing, since console expansion already is done and there's no more easy fish in sight.
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