What is and isn't intended gameplay in ED is subject to FD which will change over time.
Why Frontier are wrong to keep nerfing high credit earning methods.
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What is and isn't intended gameplay in ED is subject to FD which will change over time.
The skimmer missions weren't very secret, there have been videos and instructions about for ages. I've done 3 sessions, make quite a few credits, bought some nice ships which I have bought paint packs for and one also has green lasers (which are awesome BTW). There are loads of ways to make lots of money, the skimmer missions were simply just the most time efficient and also fun because it involved fighting ships and shooting things which explode. I haven't done anything I wouldn't have been able to do in a number of other ways and really don't see what the fuss is about. Have I gained a competitive advantage? Well, if getting better ships sooner is a competitive advantage then maybe. Really all I have done is save the time it would take to go back to the station issuing the mission and get a new mission. I appreciate from a correct gameplay mechanics standpoint killing 8 skimmers and getting paid for killing 32 doesn't seem right but if the factions are all daft enough to each pay me for the same job or however it works that's their problem
From a technical standpoint, I have taken a lot less server time to buy things in game I have then spent actual cash on, double win for FD there 
So unless FDEV specifically hit it with a nerfbat it's business as usual ? Then they only usually hit things with nerfbats after a public outcry... so if there's no public outcry, no nerfbat?
It's like the old addage:
If a tree falls over in the middle of a jungle, no one notices, thus no one cares, is it a problem?
I'm not sure but I doubt all gold mines have been closed because of public outcry.
Sorry but you just don't know the meaning of the word exploit.
To quote wikipedia (which is not perfect but still better than some random dude from the internet):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_game_exploits
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To be fair also calling this latest skimmer trend "not an exploit" is a bit of a stretch.
It may not have involved board hopping or instance relogging but retreating to a safe distance so that more skimmers can spawn in the same base to complete a different mission seems entirely unintended gameplay.
OA most certainly does have his finger on the pulse but I'd say only about 90% of the time. I've heard him make statements that weren't 100% accurate and propogate information that is not quite up-to-date, as well as express concerns that I personally thought seemed more self-serving than community-oriented.
He's top notch but like all things, needs to be taken with a pinch of salt sometimes. I would certainly hope the Devs closely watch his videos though as he does quite a fair job at representing the players in a balanced manner.
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Doesn't that fit his description?
We'll agree to disagree on that point and move along.
No, he says it's not an exploit because it doesn't matter what the devs intended. He says that only technical bugs can be exploits.
Sorry but your entire thread is based on your misunderstanding of the word exploit.
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What happened to:
Is that no longer true? Suddenly it doesn't matter how an exploit is defined because it turned out that you were wrong?
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In video games, an exploit is the use of a bug or glitches, game system, rates, hit boxes, or speed, etc. by a player to their advantage in a manner not intended by the game's designers.
What I'm curious to find out is how I'm supposed to know if someone is a system 'glitch' or 'bug'? If some crackpot is buying poo at 3,000,000cr / unit, who am I to judge more money than sense? It's perfectly realistic...
Some moron bought a yellow and blue painting for $45.6m in real life...
http://news.bitofnews.com/rothko-painting-yellow-and-blue-sold-for-46-5-million/
so 3m cr for a unit of poo seems reasonable to me. No cause for alarm, or need to bug report....
What I'm curious to find out is how I'm supposed to know if someone is a system 'glitch' or 'bug'? If some crackpot is buying poo at 3,000,000cr / unit, who am I to judge more money than sense? It's perfectly realistic...
Some moron bought a yellow and blue painting for $45.6m in real life...
http://news.bitofnews.com/rothko-painting-yellow-and-blue-sold-for-46-5-million/
so 3m cr for a unit of poo seems reasonable to me. No cause for alarm, or need to bug report....
Ask support?
I don't understand what you are trying to say.
That his concept of exploit is correct.
No, it's not. Read his posts again. He says it's not an exploit.
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Take a look at OP:
He clearly says that the Skimmer missions are not an exploit because it's how the devs designed it and it doesn't matter what they intended. According to his definition only bugs can be exploits because they aren't designed by the devs. Which doesn't make any sense and clearly shows that he has no idea what he is talking about.
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What about those of us who are both?
What isn't an exploit?
That is arguable since it is by design that this occurs. The 'unintended' bit, I believe, is being able to shoot the skimmers with dumb fire missiles from a ship. Had the skimmer missions been carried out using an SRV, which I believe to be the intended way of doing it, it would have taken far longer to achieve and thus the cr/hr would have been far smaller.
Yeah, the skimmer exploit existed since 17 Draconis, I personally used it to get 700 mill. Now, where did he explicitly said it wasn't and exploit?
But the devs clearly think of it as unintended. Why would they ban the missions then?!
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