If it makes you feel any better (sorry, I know it doesen't) nothing changed because players already had billions of credits due to previous exploits. Personally I think there should be a galaxy reset once every exploit is fixed, which will never happen since the game is under constant development.
The Exploits Have Damaged Elite
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I never participated in any of the gold rushes actually. I did some Ceo/Sothis trucking back then, but that was long after its time. I own a lot of A rated ships, among those an Anaconda and a T10 and have about 400 Millions left. If I'd start to compare now I guess I'd be dwarfed by many people who made their riches with the gold rushes in much less time than I, but actually I don't really care, mainly because it's not a competition for me.
Let them have their billions, I still have fun playing the game the way I want.
In other words: I don't care what others have.
Let them have their billions, I still have fun playing the game the way I want.
In other words: I don't care what others have.
I'm not sure the answer to playing a game rife with cheating is to cheat too. I understand the frustration from the OP. Frontier have allowed this sort of thing to go on for years and as such are apparently okay with it.
When I think about booting up ED I quickly remember the reasons for not doing so and this issue is one of them. If I wanted to play with cheats I'd take up cycling or athletics.
In any event ED has become a ratship of cheating and exploiting and considering how long this has been going on its obvious Frontier really couldn't care less despite making a few noises when people complain.
At any time they could have sorted this out by making a strong response. Lots of other game developers do just that.
A simple database query could easily identify those who have been at it. Frontier don't care about the cheating and care even less about those who don't cheat. Sad times.
i last 'not so long' in a viper mk3 doing combat before bugging out. I last 'as long as i want' in my corvette. They have the same jump capabilities. I have vastly more fun in my corvette.
My son took 1 hour of playing before realising the grind would make this a second job and did a steam refund. We play world of tanks together and star trek online together - both grindy game but not meaningless grind. We have spent money in those games and have played for years.
I have used every 'now an exploit' in the game, i have about 2B in assets. I never play in open and never do CHs or powerplay. I simply want to kill pirates on my home system. Combat is fun for me.
My son took 1 hour of playing before realising the grind would make this a second job and did a steam refund. We play world of tanks together and star trek online together - both grindy game but not meaningless grind. We have spent money in those games and have played for years.
I have used every 'now an exploit' in the game, i have about 2B in assets. I never play in open and never do CHs or powerplay. I simply want to kill pirates on my home system. Combat is fun for me.
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I sort of understand where this was going but got a bit lost with the being behind bit.
Got 1400hours in game somthing silly like 9 weeks and a few days, Ive never had the sense of being behind anyone or the need to be infront of anyone. How or if little Billy wants to use the new get rich fix then let him, no skin off my nose. ED is not like most MMO Ive played infact I find it hard to call ED an MMO; here I mean there is no boss epic +10 + 20 + 25 loot drops, there is no need rush to the end.
If the OP however plays in open and is an avid pvpe player then yeah I might see why they might have a problem with people making handfulls of credits, but even then does it really effect anyone as having one of the big 3 will not make you a good pilot and even then you still have to go through the rep grind to get two of them it matters not how much money you have, or does the donation mission thing still work?
I really really really dont get why anyone having more credits than me in a game that isnt about how many credits you have, would bother anyone, but thats me. Oh and as somone pointed out the forums do a lot more damage to this game than the game, that and some of FDs desgin choices. The only time I think I have cared about so called cheating in this game was the whole enginer thing, but unless someone is useing a god mode , wallhack, one shot one kill sort of thing its all water of this ducks back.
Just to add never used any of the so called expolits, got a bill in assets, half a bill in cash, and a small fleet of about 5 ships.
Nor have I ever cheated in any MMO game I have played over the years, I have used mods and some cheats in solo player games but then the only person Im cheating is myself and I can live with that.
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You are correct, and I cant think of any other mmo that has so many exploits so often, and has such a weak policy on people knowingly using them. It has created a community where people feel entitled to cheats, and openly complain when cheats and loopholes are closed. Its a fairly tragic state, and it has irrevocably damaged the game in many ways.
But dont say it too loud, exploiters dont like to be called exploiters. 'Playing it smart' is hoe these people prefer to call it.
"You are not your job, you're not how much money you have in the bank. You are not the car you drive. You're not the contents of your wallet." Is that you Tyler?
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4 years, and this is still how the issue is handled
ive always seen it more like this
[video=youtube;8fI7zm7RXHs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fI7zm7RXHs[/video]
Gold pure gold I laughed so hard. And I somewhat have to agree.
How is it bull when you've had every opportunity to participate? By your own admission, you didn't because you "didn't care".
If you want to blame someone for not hopping on the gravy train, blame yourself. No one else was holding you back from doing it.
As you also rightly stated, FDev isn't in the position right now to stop it from happening. It's totally on you.
You just ruined my childhood..
That pretty much is the literal definition of an exploit: to exploit in undesired ways according to the devs mrchanics. Just stop calling yourself 'gold rusher' or 'smart'. You are an exploiter, and in most games you'd be punished for it. So smile and count yourself lucky!
That pretty much is the literal definition of an exploit: to exploit in undesired ways according to the devs mrchanics. Just stop calling yourself 'gold rusher' or 'smart'. You are an exploiter, and in most games you'd be punished for it. So smile and count yourself lucky!
It's worse, this community teached me that exploiting is cheating.
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Yeah, it's a bit grating. Then again, very few games punish feature-abusers these days. Probably because they don't want to to lose the business. And people would probably blame the devs if they got punished for cheating by repeatedly abusing these obvious features.
But they still should imo. Gold-rush exploits and similar cheating cheapens the achievement aspect of the game. On the flip-side, reporting such features should be rewarded.
In a fair world, as a bare miminum the gains would be be wiped and replaced with an average of the players projected earnings for time spent, based on a recent average.
But they still should imo. Gold-rush exploits and similar cheating cheapens the achievement aspect of the game. On the flip-side, reporting such features should be rewarded.
In a fair world, as a bare miminum the gains would be be wiped and replaced with an average of the players projected earnings for time spent, based on a recent average.
Don't let the cheaters ruin your point of view.
Don't let them ruin your sense of accomplishment.
They play dumb, that doesn't mean you have too.
You are correct, and I cant think of any other mmo that has so many exploits so often, and has such a weak policy on people knowingly using them. It has created a community where people feel entitled to cheats, and openly complain when cheats and loopholes are closed. Its a fairly tragic state, and it has irrevocably damaged the game in many ways.
But dont say it too loud, exploiters dont like to be called exploiters. 'Playing it smart' is hoe these people prefer to call it.
Agreed, but that's what you'd expect when building a semi-live-test environment as you go along instead of adding major patches to a finalised product. But wait, it's worse, because the BGS was procedurally generated then left to wage war on itself.
Very little of the ED Milky Way has been hand built, some places have still never been visited. Even in the bubble it would be near impossible to mitigate for every RNG Stellar Forge has come up with and then get up to speed with the minor faction activity.
Think about it for a moment. Why do they (now) run an open beta phase? When the crunch to ship hits there are few spare hands for testing, so why not outsource that to anyone who actually plays the game and is far more likely to notice anomalies?
FDev communicated extremely well, compromises were made and larger issues were fixed, in beta. If you recall when the "G5 mods with G1 mats" issue was discovered, a real "cheat" they were swift, focused and diplomatic with the consequences.
This "Gold Rush" phenomena, which may be unique to Elite Dangerous is a quirk of the chaotic Universe, not a cheat. Well intentioned people add kewl new stuff, RNG chews it up and spits out the odd abomination, out there in the black, lurking, waiting...
Some people get their kicks out of blowing their friends "back to the rebuy"! Others like peaceful exploration, and some like to go hunt for exploits lurking in the black, waiting for players to find them, test, replicate, film, edit and post them on youtube.
------OPPORTUNITY WINDOW RIGHT HERE RIGHT NOW CLOSING SOON------
Whereupon FDev finds out about it and hark! Me heareth yonder ban hammer!
Seems unlikely FDev would punish testers for finding and documenting patch lists.
Note: It's difficult to "damage" a thing that isn't "finished" yet. Ever built a house?
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Tststs, you're not saying FD may possibly make a bit of extra profit from player's newfound goldrush wealth, are you ?
Naughty, Naughty