Total number of dinosaur genera (does the number of sites suggest more than we think?)

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Hello all. I'd like to pose a bit of a question. I've been looking over the number of digsites in the game. The total from the map we've seen comes out to 32. That's a lot of digsites. Now, barring a lot of overlap between a lot of digsite in North America primarily and North Africa to a lesser extent, do you guys think either of the following things or both of them could be true of the game?

1. There are quite a few more dinosaur genera in the game besides the allegedly confirmed 42 with the 5 from the deluxe pre-order edition included. I base this possibility on the sheer number of notable or unique dinosaur genera from each site. I feel it would be rather pointless to include a lot of digsites on each continent and have a ridiculous amount of genera overlap between them. I'm going to speculate Frontier may actually have around 50 genera planned for launch.

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2. A lot of the digsites on the map have the potential to be expanded upon with more unique genera at a later date. To me, this seems likely due to the presence of such digsites as the Maevarano in Madagascar, the Bissekty in Uzbekistan, and the Mackunda in Australia. The Maevarano, besides having the already confirmed deluxe order Majungasaurus, also has yielded the smaller noasaurid carnivore Masiakasaurus and the small to medium-size titanosaurid sauropod tosaurus. The Mackunda could easily have Muttaburrasaurus, Australovenator, and perhaps a couple other species. The Bissekty, while not known for a lot of famous or notable dinosaurs, does have genera such as Bissektipelta (an ankylosaur), Turanoceratops (a small ceratopsian that looked like a small Triceratops), Levnesovia (a hadrosauroid), Caenagnathasia (an oviraptorid), Euronychodon and Urbacodon (two troodontids), Itemirus (a dromaeosaur similar to Velociraptor), and Timurlengia (a small tyrannosauroid). While many such names from the Bissekty would not likely show up, it seems a waste to put such a digsite in and not eventually do anything with it.

Let me know what you all think. I'd say given the number of species we known about vs. the number of species we don't know of, I'd say Frontier would want to have at least a third to half the total dinosaurs in the game at initial release be a surprise, hence why I think 42 including deluxe maybe be something to throw us off the real number (especially considering that number came from a screenshot taken from an unfinished development build). Like I said, let me know your thoughts and give some basic reasoning why you think one or both the options above are either true or false.
 
Hello all. I'd like to pose a bit of a question. I've been looking over the number of digsites in the game. The total from the map we've seen comes out to 32. That's a lot of digsites. Now, barring a lot of overlap between a lot of digsite in North America primarily and North Africa to a lesser extent, do you guys think either of the following things or both of them could be true of the game?

1. There are quite a few more dinosaur genera in the game besides the allegedly confirmed 42 with the 5 from the deluxe pre-order edition included. I base this possibility on the sheer number of notable or unique dinosaur genera from each site. I feel it would be rather pointless to include a lot of digsites on each continent and have a ridiculous amount of genera overlap between them. I'm going to speculate Frontier may actually have around 50 genera planned for launch.

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2. A lot of the digsites on the map have the potential to be expanded upon with more unique genera at a later date. To me, this seems likely due to the presence of such digsites as the Maevarano in Madagascar, the Bissekty in Uzbekistan, and the Mackunda in Australia. The Maevarano, besides having the already confirmed deluxe order Majungasaurus, also has yielded the smaller noasaurid carnivore Masiakasaurus and the small to medium-size titanosaurid sauropod tosaurus. The Mackunda could easily have Muttaburrasaurus, Australovenator, and perhaps a couple other species. The Bissekty, while not known for a lot of famous or notable dinosaurs, does have genera such as Bissektipelta (an ankylosaur), Turanoceratops (a small ceratopsian that looked like a small Triceratops), Levnesovia (a hadrosauroid), Caenagnathasia (an oviraptorid), Euronychodon and Urbacodon (two troodontids), Itemirus (a dromaeosaur similar to Velociraptor), and Timurlengia (a small tyrannosauroid). While many such names from the Bissekty would not likely show up, it seems a waste to put such a digsite in and not eventually do anything with it.

Let me know what you all think. I'd say given the number of species we known about vs. the number of species we don't know of, I'd say Frontier would want to have at least a third to half the total dinosaurs in the game at initial release be a surprise, hence why I think 42 including deluxe maybe be something to throw us off the real number (especially considering that number came from a screenshot taken from an unfinished development build). Like I said, let me know your thoughts and give some basic reasoning why you think one or both the options above are either true or false.

After Austalovenator, I stopped understanding what you were saying, which comes to the point I'm about to make:

We'll probably see more namesake dinosaurs before a lot of others. Such as your suggestion of Caenagnathasia, we would likely see Oviraptor itself before that one. And if we see Oviraptor, I hope to see Protoceratops too, though they might have to beef up their size a bit. The reason for this is because they are more recognizable to people. I imagine recognizable dinosaurs will take priority as a result. I had never heard of Bissektipelta before and had to google it to know what you're talking about haha. Bissekty is not a dig site from the looks of it, and the other dig sites are quite distant from that region.

BUT that doesn't invalidate your point. I agree with you that they will probably clump a bunch of them together (and it's suggested they already have) and we will see more dinosaurs from various dig sites in close proximity to those listed.
 
The thing I was trying to get at is because there are so many digsites in the game, I think it either offers room for expansion or we are getting a lot more dinosaurs in from the start than we think. Plus, there have already been so many dinosaurs revealed so far, pretty soon, there will be none left as a surprise or any left to reveal at this rate. We already definitely know about 30-ish, so I'm thinking either Frontier doesn't care if the whole initial roster is spoiled from the get-go or they have a ton more planned for initial launch of the game than previously imagined. I'm starting to wonder whether those rumors several months ago of a roster of about 50 or so genera are actually true.
 
The game will have the exact number of Dinosaurs Frontier has said and shown, that is 42. No more no less. There was already 27 movie Dinosaurs so they had their hands full making them. So that leaves the last 15 and we already know what some of them are. Plus you have the ones that will come in the JWFK DLC. Then after that you will have to wait for dino DLC. There are plenty of Dinosaurs in the game for now. I doubt every obscure Dinosaur will be in the game. Like blubbit said they will obviously add the more well known Dinosaurs.
 
I think there is a possibility that they may add a few more. I would not keep my hopes up. I would be more disappointed if there is no fk dlc. 42 is the perfect number and makes sense since it is the meaning of life.
 
Not disputing more well-known genera will get first priority. I'm just pointing out this: what's the point in adding obscure digsites if you're not going to expand upon or do anything with them? Also, not to be rude, but I do wish people would stop pushing the idea of a JWFK patch. The thought of that drives me nuts. There is zero point in holding back any new dinosaurs from Fallen Kingdom except the Indoraptor. If you look on the thread discussing such a patch, you'll find a detailed explanation from me as to the evidence against such a thing happening. Those dinosaurs have been pretty much spoiled to death in the trailers for the film. There is no point in holding them back from the game. If we take the estimate of 42 as fact, that means there is still room for the new normal dinosaurs from JWFK (Allosaurus, Baryonyx, Carnotaurus, Sinoceratops, and Stygimoloch).
 
I'm not expecting more species than 42 at launch.
Some of the dig sites will only have one dinosaur and there are some dig sites that have species that are also found in other dig sites, with regards to that the number of dig sites means nothing to me.
The JWFK dinosaurs are most likely to come in a dlc because the release of the movie will be after the game launches in the US.
 
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As I've stated though, holding the normal dinosaurs from JWFK back at launch makes no sense. Surely they would have them in as a way to promote the film. Besides, I can already see accusations against Frontier of holding back day 1 content for doing such a thing if it is true.
 
There is not going to have any fk dinos at launch. The consensus by most people is that it will come out around when the physical copy does.
 
That quote made about Fallen Kingdom content made no mention of any dinosaurs being held back. Absolutely none. Other than that, there is zero evidence for the existence of such a patch. There is, from what I have observed, a ton of evidence against such a patch's existence including digsites in the game, the presence of dinosaurs like Allosaurus in JPOG, and the fact those dinosaurs have been pretty much been spoiled by the movie trailers. If anyone has any evidence to support the existence of such a patch, whereby the devs actually have said it is going to be so, I'd love to see it myself.
 
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I'd also like to point out the reason I started this thread is to speculate on the reason there are so many digsites at launch and whether this indicated room for future expansion of the dinosaur genera available in different digsites. I really did not want any mention of this ridiculous JWFK patch to slip into the discussion, but I was not the person who mentioned it.
 
That quote made about Fallen Kingdom content made no mention of any dinosaurs being held back. Absolutely none. Other than that, there is zero evidence for the existence of such a patch. There is, from what I have observed, a ton of evidence against such a patch's existence including digsites in the game, the presence of dinosaurs like Allosaurus in JPOG, and the fact those dinosaurs have been pretty much been spoiled by the movie trailers. If anyone has any evidence to support the existence of such a patch, whereby the devs actually have said it is going to be so, I'd love to see it myself.

Creative Director Michael Brookes Interview
A quote:
"Potentially, there’s post-release content or updates?
Michael Brookes: I cannot comment on that at the moment, I’m afraid. But yes, we’ve got the Fallen Kingdom release in mind, so those things to tie-in with that."
I hope that's proof enough for you.
 
That's not proof. That's vague foreshadowing of future DLC/updates. That is the quote I was talking about. There is no mention of dinosaurs being held back or any such thing. It is a vague and cryptic statement that proves nothing.
 
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There is no dig-site in the game for Carnotaurus, so unless they shove it into the Candeleros Formation, its going to be in a future DLC.
 
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As I've stated though, holding the normal dinosaurs from JWFK back at launch makes no sense. Surely they would have them in as a way to promote the film. Besides, I can already see accusations against Frontier of holding back day 1 content for doing such a thing if it is true.

How would it be day 1 content? That makes no sense. It would be content for a movie that isn't even available to the public. Which is why they won't be in the game. Cause Universal doesn't want them spoiling their big movie. Also the JWFK DLC will most likely be free. The models are most likely already made and they are just waiting till after June 22nd.
 
I'd also like to point out the reason I started this thread is to speculate on the reason there are so many digsites at launch and whether this indicated room for future expansion of the dinosaur genera available in different digsites. I really did not want any mention of this ridiculous JWFK patch to slip into the discussion, but I was not the person who mentioned it.

How is a JWFK patch ridiculous?? If anything it's ridiculous to think that they would include Dinosaurs in a game from a movie that isn't even available to the public. Which is why it will come after June 22nd. A JWFK DLC makes total sense.
 
They probably will put the Carnotaurus into the Los Candeleros Formation. I've researched what dinosaurs have been found in the formation Carnotaurus is actually found in (the La Colonia) and the only dinosaurs mentioned are Carnotaurus and indeterminate hadrosaur remains. That's it. My guess is, Frontier saw this and decided to put the Carnotaurus into the Candeleros because not enough notable dinosaurs come from its actual site of discovery. I'd imagine it would be in there with dinosaurs like Giganotosaurus, Argentinosaurus, etc. Scientific accuracy is not followed 100% in this game. For example, people have said the Bissekty will have Archaeornithomimus, but it is indicated any remains of the dinosaur from that site in real life are dubious.
 
As far as the number of dig sites are concerned they obviously plan to add Dinosaurs later on. So it makes sense to have the dig sites already in the game and they might even add more digs sites using DLC later on. The number of dig sites doesn't mean anything. Cause as others have said there will be 1 Dinosaur in some dig sites, others will have the same dinosaurs from other sites and of course some sites will have multiple Dinosaurs.
 
They probably will put the Carnotaurus into the Los Candeleros Formation. I've researched what dinosaurs have been found in the formation Carnotaurus is actually found in (the La Colonia) and the only dinosaurs mentioned are Carnotaurus and indeterminate hadrosaur remains. That's it. My guess is, Frontier saw this and decided to put the Carnotaurus into the Candeleros because not enough notable dinosaurs come from its actual site of discovery. I'd imagine it would be in there with dinosaurs like Giganotosaurus, Argentinosaurus, etc. Scientific accuracy is not followed 100% in this game. For example, people have said the Bissekty will have Archaeornithomimus, but it is indicated any remains of the dinosaur from that site in real life are dubious.

All you are going to do is hype yourself up with speculation and then be disappointed when you find out Carnotaurus and the other JWFK Dinosaurs aren't in the game and will come after the movies release.
 
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