carrabiers too
Come on. Why do you want a computer game more saftly than your life ?
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cant it not be open size ?
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carrabiers too
Come on. Why do you want a computer game more saftly than your life ?
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cant it not be open size ?
It seems some humans get it, others don't. I still maintain EVE is for the sociopaths, Elite is for the grown ups.
Or, you know...when you fancy being either.
Seems like quite a few people who are either just stupid or opposed for the lulz.
I'll assume it's the former and type slowly.
Mobius doesn't cut it as the Open PvE mode.
There are 3 Mobius groups and maybe other groups I don't know about with a similar ethos.
They are divided and fragmented populations.
Open PvE would bring them all together for warm hugs and cocoa before bedtime.
I'll assume it's the former and type slowly.
Mobius doesn't cut it as the Open PvE mode.
There are 3 Mobius groups and maybe other groups I don't know about with a similar ethos.
They are divided and fragmented populations.
Open PvE would bring them all together for warm hugs and cocoa before bedtime.
..Opens a thread about a special new gameplay mode, doesn't want solo vs open discussion...
The truth is an OPEN PVE environment would be welcomed by a huge chunck of the player base. I imagine it would be the most populated mode.
It would be good for the game. It wouldn’t brake the three modes equal.
There are problems with breaking the spirit of the game. Wanted CMDRs shouldn’t be immune from attack. CMDRs with high value goods in Anarchies shouldn’t be immune from piracy.
I think those edge cases can still be worked around in a PvE environment with rules of engagement and damage dependent on CMDR status and system security.
It would be good for the game. It wouldn’t brake the three modes equal.
There are problems with breaking the spirit of the game. Wanted CMDRs shouldn’t be immune from attack. CMDRs with high value goods in Anarchies shouldn’t be immune from piracy.
I think those edge cases can still be worked around in a PvE environment with rules of engagement and damage dependent on CMDR status and system security.
Fleetcomm for one. I believe it is the largest Exploration centered PG, and it is going to hit the limits with the DW2 expedition to where multiple PG's will have to be used.
You mean 2 open modes, 1 without player damage.
This sounds fair and would not seperate the game more than it is.
But i would like to have my changes above to the open mode with player damage.
ok, ya got me. what's a carrabiers? Is that french for carebear or something?carrabiers too
Repped. This is a good example of constructive criticism with alternative suggestions and not just a shouting down for lulz.
Seriously, credit where it's due.
I think it'll never happen because, if it did, the only thing left in Open for PvPers to shoot at would be tumbleweed.
Repped. This is a good example of constructive criticism with alternative suggestions and not just a shouting down for lulz.
Seriously, credit where it's due.
Indeed.
Even I would leave Solo.
But leave the taunts on. I want to see them, but not feel them.
That would be the telling part.
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First of all, thanks for your comments all, seemingly we are perfectly capable of constructive discussion. Please keep it that way
I would not be opposed to that. More risk = more reward. Other people's profit does not affect my game
Trolls and griefers (not to be mistaken with gankers) will ALWAYS find a way to disrupt other people's game, regardless of PVE, PVP, Group mode or whatever. I wouldn't dismiss a good (IMO) solution that benefits all (or most) just "because trolls".
If you want to play with others but want to have PVP experience, it's already there. It's called Open. In my proposed solution it would be called Open PVP.
What I want does not already exist - Private Group mode is way to inconvenient to use to be fit for what I propose. User management, finding a right group for your needs, limited number of users are just the first 3 things that come to mind. Open PVE eliminates all those problems.
What is the difference to you as a PVP player if I would be playing in Open PVE mode or Group mode? There is NONE, because you wouldn't see me at all in your game anyway.
What is the difference to me as a PVE player if I would be playing in Open PVE mode instead of Open PVP mode? Colossal, because I would be 100% sure that other players cannot be hostile towards me and if that is my preferred play style, I don't see why I shouldn't have it available to me.
Good stuff, he's said "I would love it"
Come on, David, make it happen!
Any solid source or any stats? Otherwise is just an assumption. I can also say: "I feel that most people would really want Open PVE mode, because a lot of them say that they play in Solo due to being ganked in Open. Conclusion - they want social PVE experience, but there is no suitable environment to provide that for them"
Which would also be just an assumption. Only FDEV have any sort of solid stats, everything else is just speculation, ergo not really an argument that you can reasonably use in the discussion IMHO.
Those polls are not worth much, because they only provide the views of a small part of the community, not to mention that they can be easily rigged. Sorry, not an argument to me. Unless there is an official poll accessible directly from the launcher by all players.
You're just being silly now for the sake of arguing. We all know how PVE mode works and it has nothing to do with NPC ships. They are there regardless of any mode.
IMHO Open PVE would not divide players. It would bring them together. People who do want to have a Open PVP experience, would be able to do that. Likewise - people who would like to have Open PVE experience would be able to do that. Currently the latter group doesn't have that choice and this is what creates most of the vitriol and division in the community. It's most often a PVE player complaining they were ganked in Open, then gankers say "git gut" and the fight begins.
If PVE players had their own Open mode, there would be much less complaints of that nature and less vitriol and division in the community.
I would not be opposed to that. More risk = more reward. Other people's profit does not affect my game
Trolls and griefers (not to be mistaken with gankers) will ALWAYS find a way to disrupt other people's game, regardless of PVE, PVP, Group mode or whatever. I wouldn't dismiss a good (IMO) solution that benefits all (or most) just "because trolls".
If you want to play with others but want to have PVP experience, it's already there. It's called Open. In my proposed solution it would be called Open PVP.
What I want does not already exist - Private Group mode is way to inconvenient to use to be fit for what I propose. User management, finding a right group for your needs, limited number of users are just the first 3 things that come to mind. Open PVE eliminates all those problems.
What is the difference to you as a PVP player if I would be playing in Open PVE mode or Group mode? There is NONE, because you wouldn't see me at all in your game anyway.
What is the difference to me as a PVE player if I would be playing in Open PVE mode instead of Open PVP mode? Colossal, because I would be 100% sure that other players cannot be hostile towards me and if that is my preferred play style, I don't see why I shouldn't have it available to me.
Good stuff, he's said "I would love it"
Come on, David, make it happen!
Any solid source or any stats? Otherwise is just an assumption. I can also say: "I feel that most people would really want Open PVE mode, because a lot of them say that they play in Solo due to being ganked in Open. Conclusion - they want social PVE experience, but there is no suitable environment to provide that for them"
Which would also be just an assumption. Only FDEV have any sort of solid stats, everything else is just speculation, ergo not really an argument that you can reasonably use in the discussion IMHO.
Those polls are not worth much, because they only provide the views of a small part of the community, not to mention that they can be easily rigged. Sorry, not an argument to me. Unless there is an official poll accessible directly from the launcher by all players.
You're just being silly now for the sake of arguing. We all know how PVE mode works and it has nothing to do with NPC ships. They are there regardless of any mode.
IMHO Open PVE would not divide players. It would bring them together. People who do want to have a Open PVP experience, would be able to do that. Likewise - people who would like to have Open PVE experience would be able to do that. Currently the latter group doesn't have that choice and this is what creates most of the vitriol and division in the community. It's most often a PVE player complaining they were ganked in Open, then gankers say "git gut" and the fight begins.
If PVE players had their own Open mode, there would be much less complaints of that nature and less vitriol and division in the community.
You either don't understand the topic or you are trolling the thread. I'm just not sure which it is....
And TBH, I think that's one reason why FD won't do it... because it would seriously expose the reality of the matter- which is PvE is indeed the preferred play style.
Rather they "hide" that fact in a no-hold-barred FFA Open as it currently is, else it would expose the true underlying flaw with the design of this game.
"Single Shared Universe" "Cutthroat Galaxy", etc.
Sounds good, but you should overthink, every exclusion, needs alot of programing. Not sure it can be done in short time . And it needs €$
It already has money. TONS of it. And every customer who's already paid for this game contributed to that. PvE and PvP alike.
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