BREAKING NEWS: GNOSIS STRANDED, GALNET NEWS!

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You know, I really think it might be an idea to keep all the crap about other franchises, flagship games, financial reports and so on in the threads we already have about them and restrict posting in this one to just expressing opinions about this specific occurrence.

Partly because all the other crap is off topic anyway, but mainly because I think it might be illuminating for FDev to see just what level of engagement there actually was with this event and just how p'd off people are about it standalone, without the need to season it with everybody's favourite conspiracy theories. It adds nothing at all, in fact it actually detracts from the point to be made, which is simply don't bait and switch us like this because it absolutely blows as a way to treat your players. Or customers if you prefer.
 
Leave it to the Elite: Dangerous FDev team to not only disappoint the entire community by chopping an update set for the end of the year in half.

But managing to bring back some lingering commanders back into the game for an event.

And then ruin the event; all within a 7 day period.

Time to uninstall, and never buy anything from Frontier Developments again.
 
A bit of a cork-up on the Galnet posting front.

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I can only assume that this happened because someone needed to get the article posted before going home, since he/she would not be back in the office before the server cycle.
 
Leave it to the Elite: Dangerous FDev team to not only disappoint the entire community by chopping an update set for the end of the year in half.

But managing to bring back some lingering commanders back into the game for an event.

And then ruin the event; all within a 7 day period.

Time to uninstall.

Not to mention that the cat was let out of the bag by their web guy, who's probably completely oblivious to all of this.
 
[video=youtube;VIliZvuvirs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIliZvuvirs[/video]

Coincidentally, the ship I have on the Gnosis is rigged for Mining.

Riôt
 
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Does it not seem that perhaps the developers locked the region out with a plan for future content, and just haven't finished the stuff they were planning on putting there?
That much seems obvious, but the system we were going to is probably EMPTY anyway. If not, who cares. It would have progressed the "story" in a player-determined way, which would have been a great PR move. "our players decide the fate of the galaxy"

But nope. [mad]
 
From what I understand, the journey of the Gnosis was a player initiated decision, to bypass a region of space frontier boarded off, yes? And frontier responded by locking down the destination area, but the player group insisted on the destination?

Does it not seem that perhaps the developers locked the region out with a plan for future content, and just haven't finished the stuff they were planning on putting there? I mean, development doesn't happen on the player's timetable. Expecting a player-initiated event to encounter new content on the scale of an entire new region seems a little off base. Letting them try, fail, and get to face off against new thargoids for their trouble is already pretty impressive for player driven narrative, compared to the alternative of just saying "no, you don't get to try, the thargoid station-motherships aren't ready yet".

No, because the systems it was supposed to be jumping to were not blocked off with permits to begin with, that was actually the original point of the trip. They were surrounded by locked systems but the Gnosis has the jump range to jump to the unlocked systems that were in the middle.

Then last Thursday (or Tuesday, I forget which) FDev decided to permit lock those systems too. That's weeks after this event was planned, announced and organised.

Then this.

Also let me ask you something. Col 70 and the surrounding area has been permit locked for what, two years now? OK, so just reflect on the events of the last two hours for a moment. Now tell me, do you honestly believe that there is some epic content going to be delivered in there one day?

If you'd have asked me that yesterday, I'd have said yes.

Right now, I'd feel like a simpleton if I said yes.
 
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So instead of having a month-long adventure inside of an epic closed-off area and building friendships through hardships..... We didn't jump and can bring cargo or whatever?!?

Thank god for DW2 coming up, don't F with that please FD.
 
Fool me once shame on you. Fool me twice....

Its time's like these that I like to type "https://www.elitedangerous.com" in my address bar just to remind myself what exactly fdev sells this game as; how they chose to differentiate themselves from the competition. Go on, do it yourself. You'll get a nice cinematic animation (featuring a lot of gameplay that doesn't actually happen) and then the 4 main "selling points" that fdev chooses as the first real substance to describe their game to new players with. The third of these selling points is "EPIC MULTIPLAYER: Blaze your own trail and experience an evolving, player-driven narrative in a 34th century galaxy of warring galactic superpowers."

Now reading that, you would think that the devs of this game would jump at the opportunity to incorporate a player lead initiative into the story of the game, would you not? And yet, when they are handed basically a blank check when it comes to player lead narratives, when they are given a rare opportunity tell any story they could possibly imagine and have the player genuinely feel as if their choices were what caused that story to take place and not just the dictations of the devs, what do they do with it? They turn it into another shipping CG. They could have put ANYTHING in that area of space. A variation of the brain trees (maybe this could be where the tube worms are if canonn hasn't found them yet), a secret thargoid installation, a guardian installation, a rouge AI, maybe even a generation ship that didn't die out (not sure if the time tables would work for that one). They could have even just made it get thrown off course to a far away system and establish a colonia 2.0 and thrown in a few of the ideas I mentioned above as a concession to the explorers if they REALLY didn't want it going to the cone sector.

But not only did they waste the perfect opportunity to deliver on their promises, they went a step further. And not just a step further, but so far that its hard to imagine how anyone could have thought this was anything but the worst possible decision unless their intent was to harm the player base. They didn't just say "no, you can't jump there," they told canonn that they could. And then canonn told people they were going to. Then people got excited. Maybe they only realized they couldn't let it happen after saying yes, which is why they permit locked all those sectors. But they didn't just say "no you can't anymore sorry," which would have been bad enough on its own but would have stopped people from getting their hopes up too much (maybe as a concession they could have given cannon a tip about a different region of space that has some undiscovered goodies). But instead they waited for everyone to get there, for everyone to invest time and money (both in game and real money) into this, only to cancel it in the dumbest way possible. They let people invest in it when they had every opportunity of stopping them from doing so, but didn't.

The only way I can see fdev salvaging this situation is if they plan on letting the gnosis actually do the jump eventually and are just buying time to make content. Now this would still indicate terrible planning on fdev's part, as they should have just told cannon "we don't have content available yet, wait a few months and we'll have something for you" or just let it happen and strand the gnosis within a small area via permit locking and slowly unlock more and more space as content is developed. The in game justification for that could have been the pilots federation not letting cmdrs enter thargoid infested areas until the thargoid's numbers had been thinned out via cmdrs killing thargoids in the area the gnossis did have access to. Regardless, there are way better ways of handling this situation.

And the beautiful irony of it all is that we only know of this massive mismanagement of the player driven story is because fdev can't even manage their news site correctly and published the story before it actually happened. Really top notch game development there.

I would like to end this with a statement. I *almost* came back to the game for this event. I'm not an explorer and have only gone more than 500 lys from the bubble to unlock palin. But I thought this would be cool and worth breaking out my DBX for. But in the end I chose not to because my past experience with fdev and E:D still leaves a sour taste in my mouth. And for that I would like to thank fdev. Thank you for screwing up so many times before this that you taught me never to give you the benefit of the doubt. Thanks for demonstrating so thoroughly that you can't follow through with your commitments that there's no point in taking you at your word. And thank you for disappointing me so many times before that this time I only laughed.
 
That much seems obvious, but the system we were going to is probably EMPTY anyway. If not, who cares. It would have progressed the "story" in a player-determined way, which would have been a great PR move. "our players decide the fate of the galaxy"

But nope. [mad]

So much for blaze your own trail.
 
I sincerely hope, with all my heart, that they get All Hands in the office tonight to fix this. Some way. Some how. Because for all my salt, the people who have stuck with Frontier through the crap they've doled out the past two years...those people deserve better than this.

As one of those people who's stuck it out, I want you to know I'm actually, genuinely touched. I dearly like Elite, and to me it feels like a heck of a letdown. I hope I can at least transfer my modules back from the Gnosis as most of my good exploration stuff is there now.
 
I feel truly sorry for all the UK and Europe players who went to bed hoping for something really special in the morning ..... and waking in a few hours to something Really Special - and a forum page count that is very likely to exceed the Zac one.

Hmmmm it takes the pressure off that one.
 
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