BREAKING NEWS: GNOSIS STRANDED, GALNET NEWS!

[Sunleader]

If this is true I am Dissappointed.
Not because of the Leak. Mistakes can Happen.
But because of how Poor that Story is.

So Science Vessel got Interdicted by Aliens and now is Stranded and needs Help ???
I mean even if we ignore just how Goddamn Obvious this....
Why wasnt it Destroyed like stuff usually is when Attacked by Aliens.
Why are Aliens not Attacking it anymore now that its Helpless.

Well doesnt matter.
Frontier has Proven many Times that they really got no Talent for Story Writing

 

[Exeider]

There is no need to blame canonn for this. Neither FD. This is part of a story. And i don't understand why people are so upset with it.

Let's look to it from an RPG view: The Playergroup decides they want to go into the castle of lord badmofo. The Dungeonmaster throws in some npc who clearly say this will be dangerous and the group could be attacked on the way to the castle by some of the horrors living there. The group decides they want to go anyway. So the Dungeonmaster wants to throw in some action and let the group be attacked on the way.

This is what frontier has done here and honestly, they did it quite good here. The only sad thing is the galnet news that came out to early and spoiler it. Thats very sad because it could be really cool to see the Gnosis get hyperdicted and the players have to fight for survival of the ship. And maybe even learn something about the thargoids (meta alloys to lure them away from the ship or something).

Don't see any bad move here from any side.

The problem, which you're missing, is canonn nor the player base was made aware we were jumping into the lair of king badmofo until literally hours before.

Alot of the folks on the gnosis are explorers, people who likely wouldn't have gone if they knew that upfront, or the fact that the event was to be COMBAT focused.

 

[krautbernd]

There is no need to blame canonn for this. Neither FD. This is part of a story. And i don't understand why people are so upset with it.

The bugged thargoids, the no-fire-zone debacle and the premature galnet-article might have something to do with it...

 

[Damocles]

Last point from me, the actual event isn't making too much sense, I keep trying it out and get a different spawn each time. Sometimes its scouts, then interceptors, then a mix - none of them are attacking the Gnosis, although I have seen her firing back a few times. So not sure what is actually happening. Its pretty exciting in a sorta Conflict Freespace kinda way with the potential for a big slug fest, but its a bit confusing. So putting all the fess ups to one side beforehand - I actually had quite a bit of fun for a couple of hours chasing scouts with the Gnosis as the backdrop - but the execution just isn't there really. If this was a big battle, its fallen flat. And the technology should be there now as Conflict Freespace was doing epic battles years ago.

 

[Blackcompany]

There is no need to blame canonn for this. Neither FD. This is part of a story. And i don't understand why people are so upset with it.

Let's look to it from an RPG view: The Playergroup decides they want to go into the castle of lord badmofo. The Dungeonmaster throws in some npc who clearly say this will be dangerous and the group could be attacked on the way to the castle by some of the horrors living there. The group decides they want to go anyway. So the Dungeonmaster wants to throw in some action and let the group be attacked on the way.

This is what frontier has done here and honestly, they did it quite good here. The only sad thing is the galnet news that came out to early and spoiler it. Thats very sad because it could be really cool to see the Gnosis get hyperdicted and the players have to fight for survival of the ship. And maybe even learn something about the thargoids (meta alloys to lure them away from the ship or something).

Don't see any bad move here from any side.

Fdev screwed the pooch. This is a COLOSSAL failure. They didn't even bother testing their content. They DO NOT CARE anymore.

 

[PeLucheuh]

OMG! I can't believe the Vagnosis got hyperdicted by a Thargoid for no reason and dropped only 12 Ly away from its initial location. Now people are getting ganked by Thargoids for no reason even when they are not interested in combat. This game is ded. /s

Waiting for the post claiming that this stuff has been QA tested and that hundred of devs play the game

 

[ExoForce]

I love the fact that I disagree with you on this 100%, and I will actually defend FDev on that I think they have reacted like Agile practitioners and decided to roll with it And I appreciate as a dev It might happen that they also bought time to prepare a surprise in the permit locked sector. Or not. Anyhow I'm liking the fact that they decided to try a live thargoid attack in station instance, irregardless of outcome.

I approve every word there. I was expecting this:

[video=youtube;tN5NIO2jCrs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tN5NIO2jCrs[/video]

 

[Rob At Work]

Hats off to you Canonn, well played.

 

[krautbernd]

Gnosis is a remote megaship. There's logically only so much space aboard. Allow more Commanders to board it that't fine, it's free to ride, but full AAA insurance ship replacement services? Like every other station in the Galaxy when this is supposed to be a deep space expedition?? I don't think so.

The Detention Centre should be renamed as a Rescue Facility. If you're on a moving ship then it should be tough to stay on it. That's the challenge. Not shoot die rinse repeat.

Kind of odd how you're being rescued 1400 ly away though, when the ship isn't moving and has working search&rescue services...

 

[Kaltern]

I don't see how they are blameless when they said on their Discord they were contacted by Aegis (I assume Frontier) and the Canonn Council made the decision to jump anyway.

Seriously? You think that's how it works?

It's LORE. STORY. Canonn have used the foundations Frontier have been laying out for the last 5 years and tried to make a story out of it. Aegis is not real - they're not Frontier.

You're assuming that Canonn and Frontier sit together and hammer out lots of details. That isn't what happens. Frontier gave them the Gnosis. Canonn submit a flight plan in order to further their own mystery-related goals. If Frontier have no objections, they go ahead and move the Gnosis every tick (if required).

In this case however, it's clear that the Galnet news stories have led up to this moment. Canonn probably submitted a flight plan to visit the systems in question due to previous events, and Frontier decided themselves to make something of it - which would not have required discussion with Canonn to do it. I suspect Frontier were just having some fun with it, but it went very wrong.

Canonn have absolutely no say in the direction the game goes - they just react to it, same as any other group. There is no conspiracy, or favouritism, nor do they suggest storylines. They simply react, and in this case, built their own little story arc which Frontier seem to have borrowed and ultimately ruined.

 

[Viperbane]

Sounds like BAU to me

I'm more surprised that people are surprised at this event.

Admit it...

You knew The Gnosis was NOT going to go to the intended sector!

Since when have any of the planned alien encounters gone to plan in ED lore?

As for the fire zone issues, did everyone collectively forget the game mechanics between patches?

Judging from the massive amount of salt, this sounds like a planned and staged slaughter-fest. You were meant to get fragged. The Gnosis didn't even turn the ignition keys before it got ganked by what sounds like a full on Thargoid fleet.

Where I do agree with most posts here is, please don't be another run-of-the-mill CG.


Give us something new!

 

[VR StarLightPL]

How much more of a klaxon is required?

You misspelled Klaxxons which were (are?) all over Gnosis today ;-)

 

[Eymerich]

Ahh

But ed is actively developed. ...

 

[hobblygobbly]

The game is so... disengaging.

“There’s no doubt that we would have been destroyed if not for some of the Commanders travelling with us. They lured the Thargoids away while ejecting meta-alloys from their holds. The aliens were more interested in scooping up the meta-alloys than attacking us. The Commanders later reported that the Thargoid vessels were the recently identified Hydra Interceptors.”

No Commanders did this. Why is this not part of actual gameplay, with the possibility of commanders *not* being able to save the Gnosis if nobody worked together or came up with that idea. This is the major problem I have with the game, the narrative is so disengaged from the player, even EVE which is all player-driven narrative, when the devs have setup live story-related events, players actually get to engage and shape its outcome, not a blurb of text saying what players did (when they didn't even do anything).

 

[Dizzy B High]

Yes, we're sure, a canonn councilor issued a apology and statement several pages back.

He is especially angry at the fact that fdev sabotaged what was supposed to be a exploration focused event.

The whole point in exploring is to go somewhere no one has been before to see what's there, There's no guarantee your gonna find unicorns wanting to love you.

You've gone there, there being a sector of space which canon has believed there to be something relating to thargoids in a section of the galaxy that is all cordoned off,
You find one place in the middle of it all and ask to jump there.

I can remember loads of star trek episodes where they go to some section of space to explore and then find it to be rather hostile.

Don't see why jumping into the middle of thargoid territory would be any different.

 

[krautbernd]

I approve every word there. I was expecting this:

Kind of funny in hindsight:

Can't say i'm surprised by how things turned out.

 

[loki12345]

The problem, which you're missing, is canonn nor the player base was made aware we were jumping into the lair of king badmofo until literally hours before.

Alot of the folks on the gnosis are explorers, people who likely wouldn't have gone if they knew that upfront, or the fact that the event was to be COMBAT focused.

Pretty shure i have read about the danger of thargoids about a week ago or so.

I know there are a lot of explorers and i am currently not in the game so i don't know if they are stuck somewhere without any change but still, it was pretty shure that something like this would happened there. If the explorers are stuck and can do nothing, this would be bad and i hope that there will be some help for them soon.

The problem here is, again, the own expectations. If i made up for my self "woah, we are jumping into unknown, there will be awesome stuff! Something new, never seen!"...well, not in that short amount of time i guess.

And about "FD doesn't care, that is the worst thing evaaaaaa! The game is dooooooooomend". Oh my, because i don't like this tiny thing here?

What is valid is: BUGS and LEAKED GALNET NEWS! FD Guys, this really should not happened in such an situation!

 

[Goose4291]

With respect frontier made it abundantly clear the gnosis was jumping into a hot-zone. Canonn probably didnt entirely want this. But they went to a lot of trouble to warn people.

Even galnet went live early. How much more of a klaxon is required? Half the forum called it for god's sake.

I demand an instant promotion to Elite Explorer, unlimited credits and an i-win stick for killing Thargoids in a sidewinder by way of recompense.

 

[-VR- Max Factor]

The whole point in exploring is to go somewhere no one has been before to see what's there, There's no guarantee your gonna find unicorns wanting to love you.

You've gone there, there being a sector of space which canon has believed there to be something relating to thargoids in a section of the galaxy that is all cordoned off,
You find one place in the middle of it all and ask to jump there.

I can remember loads of star trek episodes where they go to some section of space to explore and then find it to be rather hostile.

Don't see why jumping into the middle of thargoid territory would be any different.

Its the reason why when I go exploring I make sure I am shielded and armed as I have no idea what is out there.

 

[Archduke]

No Commanders did this. Why is this not part of actual gameplay, with the possibility of commanders *not* being able to save the Gnosis if nobody worked together or came up with that idea.

Ehhh...OI was out there trying and encouraging others too. A few did here and there.- It did work on some of the Thargoids if they'd targetted you, but the MA are in such short supply. None were on station.