If each probe was the size of a grain of rice an imperial cutter couldn't contain an unlimited amount.
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If each probe was the size of a grain of rice an imperial cutter couldn't contain an unlimited amount.
Shoot 3, 6, 12, 48 probes, they'll get replaced by the DSS, from the passively collected materials. Effectively infinite supply but only as long as you're flying your ship through space. In a space game about flying your ship through space...
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Man you guys would hate Mass Effect 1. The guns there had unlimited ammo'.
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Overheating mechanics.
Space legs and extensive personal narrative too
Overheating? Ha. Git gud. I have a delightful combo of weapon attachments that meant my gun never overheated. It's what made my insanity play-through so easy.
I’ve been thinking the same thing for this whole thread. I miss ME1. I want my infinite ammo rifles and my Mako back!
I loved that that was possible. I converted everything I could to that configuration.
Well I for one am now going to start petitioning for the need to synthesise battery packs for lasers in ED, I’m not impressed with the infinite supply of energy for them
Visions change. Ideas change. Not everyone enjoys being miserable. I’ll wager more players see Elite as a great game with a great deal of untapped potential than a way of life.
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Both of you I ok with letting everyone have Horizon. Just remember some users can't run Horizon because they are on a Mac computer.
I think when we start Beta we can adjust the number of probes use and such. It could work.
This is the area I have been looking at. I also looking at a Manual scan. Kinda like we do before entering lower planet orbet (Load screen). It takes longer and does not use probes and you can scan from the ship. It takes time. But it could fill in the 5% 10% needed. The player could use fewer probes.
This is the area that should be talking about. The 5 Mins is not the set time. Some suggested different Surface scanner versions. I just came up with Speed plus the amount of galactic dust. Like the Galaxy Arms would have more dust so a probe could be made faster. The centre of the galaxy could also have a factor.
I don't mind the time sink I don't mind a grind for materials. What I did not like was doing 6,000 full system scans and had nothing to change my gameplay. Yes I could gone surface or mine ores. I really did not have a reason to. But I was smart to use 2 game accounts one exploration while the other account was Combat Trading and mining.
Well The best idea is talk about it. We have 9 days before beta. They might use planetary POI to collect Mats.
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Not keen on your passive aggressive tone OP but I feel I must counter for the sake of sanity. Things need to make sense in a game such as this or the overall product will descend to the level of Mario Cart.
I'm not arguing against infinite ammo. I respect the team for working with the concept, testing and modifying their approach to reflect what they found. I would like them to come up with some reasonable cost to using them though and here is a way that will make sense of the "Space Golf" conundrum too. I suggest that the probes cost energy to launch/use and using more than the "Par" for the system drains the relevant energy bank requiring a delay while it recharges.
Super excited for Q4... [big grin][big grin][big grin][big grin][big grin][big grin][big grin]
I'm not arguing against infinite ammo. I respect the team for working with the concept, testing and modifying their approach to reflect what they found. I would like them to come up with some reasonable cost to using them though and here is a way that will make sense of the "Space Golf" conundrum too. I suggest that the probes cost energy to launch/use and using more than the "Par" for the system drains the relevant energy bank requiring a delay while it recharges.
Super excited for Q4... [big grin][big grin][big grin][big grin][big grin][big grin][big grin]
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I don't think this is a good argument, you already suspend disbelief everytime you log on because you understand it's a game, it doesn't make it Mario Kart.
I could list a whole bunch of things here that are non-issues but don't make much sense in the real world.
The difference is people encountered them in game and TRIED them and it was fine because you just played the game and it was non-issue, many times people never even noticed.
As opposed to theorycrafting around imagined notions of personal immersion on a specific and minor detail.
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I think the bit you are missing is the concept of a tipping point. It doesn't hurt for things to make sense, it just takes a little effort and some imagination.
Effort, the core problem of design.
I mean yes it doesn't makse sense, that you can store infinite ammount of drones. BUT! I for one are super excited, that I can finally locate stuff, without having to eyeball a planet for hours, with nothing to show for it. And I for one don't want to be slowed down by having to gather materials, which for non-horizon players can be a mind you or look at a stupid timer, since it might be affected by systems, which would force me to make a choice for a better power distributer, which is counter to the whole striped down explorer ship.
This game already has things like space friction, sounds and so many other things, that don't make sense for realism and until everyone had the beta, we shouldn't argue if it breaks immersion. Especially if they remove that infinity counter from the hud.
This game already has things like space friction, sounds and so many other things, that don't make sense for realism and until everyone had the beta, we shouldn't argue if it breaks immersion. Especially if they remove that infinity counter from the hud.
As someone saud: infinite basic probes, synthesis for better probes.
I've decided I want a much larger "probe magazine" size.
Infinite probes or not. I don't care, but I want to launch as many probes as possible to get the full Judgement Day effect while scanning!
Infinite probes or not. I don't care, but I want to launch as many probes as possible to get the full Judgement Day effect while scanning!
It makes no sense to have infinite probes if efficiency is a game challenge variable. The "efficiency bonus" is an artificial, non-sensical add-on that would be unnecessary if probes were in limited supply, encouraging the player to be efficient in the first place.
Doesn't mean we have to be stingy; a ship could carry, say, 100 probes and more could be synthesised easily by mining some planets or asteroids --after all the whole point of probes is to map resource locations. But it would make more sense. Exploration and prospecting has a resource management aspect to it.
Doesn't mean we have to be stingy; a ship could carry, say, 100 probes and more could be synthesised easily by mining some planets or asteroids --after all the whole point of probes is to map resource locations. But it would make more sense. Exploration and prospecting has a resource management aspect to it.
I will go one better, I want really really B I G probes, massive ones that will not only map half a planet but also destroy every mat outcrop so I can just zoom around in my SRV scooping like a maniac
Yes my 'mursions love this idea. I'll definitely be taking the Probe Integration Synthesis System
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