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PvP First time in the PvP League 44th in action!
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AP Birdman
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Wait, wait, wait...you won using ferdies with gimballed multis and you think you're hot stuff!? ROFL What a joke! Yeah, your "superior skill" is why you won. Hahahaha
who is CODE anyway? has anyone actually heard of them before?
scrubs ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
scrubs ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
They are anything but scrubs. They are extremely talented at ambushing unsuspecting CMDRs out in the wild and making them pay the price of complacency and laziness. I'm not sure what their "code" is except they always hunt in packs like most ganker groups. Except for shippyface, I've seen him take on wings by himself and I respect that at least.
Using technology at hand to expose the weakness of your opponents is called tactics. Small ships are hard to hit with fixed and if I know they dont use chaff I will equip gimbals for more TOT. How is that a joke? I use turrets on "fire at will" when it gives me an advantage, why not? Packhounds, you bet. Does that make me a scrub? It makes me a smart scrub.
AP Birdman
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Lol make whatever excuse you want but gimbals and turrets are for scrubs.
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I agree and wear the scrub badge with honor every time I send a griefer to the rebuy screen. It also means (by your definition) you guys were defeated by scrubs?
And here children we see a gaggle of Commanders engaging in the ancient rituals of Space Bushido. Watch as they hurl insults at each other!
We’re so lucky to see this fantastic example of Commander behavior in the wild like this.
We’re so lucky to see this fantastic example of Commander behavior in the wild like this.
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I must disagree with this. Blowing up is for scrubs. And if someone is blown up by someone using gimballed weapons, they get to win the scrublord crown for a week.
Chaff anyone?
Hax!
That's the funny thing - they all brought double chaff, which gives effective immunity to gimbals. And yet they still blame the gimbals, and not our fixed hitscan, because that would require admitting that we can aim....
The 44th didn't come up with the "gimbals are for scrubs" thing. Yet your "fearless" leader seems to get triggered by the mere fact of me pointing out the obvious: that you won due to:
A) Flying ships with bigger shields, hulls and more guns.
B) using a majority of gimbals (chaff is useless if enough gimbals are on you)
C) refusing to go for a location giving us a slight advantage, ultimately balancing the whole Medium vs Small ship thing.
And all I am asking for is a rematch in icy rings.
If you guys want to be b***hurt about me stating you won due to gear and location and not overwhelming skill, no problem for me, there are enough people who saw the fight and might agree.
If you had a little decency, you'd admit that the reason you wanted rockies and used gimbals was because it was the only way for you to win against us.
But I'm not mad, I'm not even triggered by Fly calling us sore losers. We lost, you won fair and square by staying within the rules, nobody is questioning that.
Not wanting to give the opponent an advantage might be even called skill in some way, who knows...
I read that as superior strategy and tactics. But I'm interested in your opinion: in a 1v1 match of FDL vs Vulture, similar skills, doesn't the FDL win every time due to the advantage in firepower/shields/hull ? IMO you guys (the 44th) put yourselves at a disadvantage from the start.
Overall good response from the leader of 44th.
If the match were at least somewhat close, I might agree. But it wasn't. And for the second round I switched to a full fixed PA/cannon setup, and it was even more one-sided than the first.
It is, because it leads to winning more. As has been mentioned previously in this thread, this concept is called "tactics".
In a 1v1 it all boils down to skill and tactics. in terms of raw power, an FDL will win most of the time if the two pilots are of equal skill. it's all a matter of "luck" or rather psychology. If the Vulture pilot is capable to exert pressure to push the FDL pilot for mistakes, the Vulture can win. It is also a matter of location. A Vulture will have an advantage in dense asteroid rings since its low profile and superior maneuverability allows to stay closer to the rocks than an FDL (mass/drift factor).
We fully knew we would gimp ourselves. that's what Harry Potter/Besieger asked us before our first match, if we are sure we wanna do this in Vultures.
The answer is yes, of course we know we put ourselves at a big disadvantage, but it still was fun for us and a way to see what we need to improve to play in the bigger pond.
And tbh, we will do the same thing again next year.
I will be there again next year in my Vulture, you can count on me.
If it works, it works.
If both are built for dueling, almost always.
Things get more complex in wing fights, but a Vulture wing will generally have to have flatly better pilots and/or superior coordination to best an FDL wing, no matter where it's done.
AP Birdman
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Sure it works but it doesn't change the fact that gimbals are for unskilled players that don't know how to aim.
If you wanna play that way that's fine but when you go onto a forum acting like you're hot shiz and saying that you won because of your superior skill you should expect to get called out on your bullspit.
Basically you're using an aim assist and your opponent ran out of chaff. Use what you wanna use but don't act like you're hot stuff.
And in my opinion gimbals should be heavily nerfed. It's absurd that they're even a viable option for pvp.
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