News Removal of 'UA Bombing'

lol.

Having not played the game for ages I come onto the forums to see whats new and this appears. Come on, we're not idiots, the real reason is the same old people moaned and moaned and you guys caved in.

You haven't been around in ages and yet somehow know why UA bombing was removed?

Impressive.

Anyway, good riddance. I won't miss the mechanic. Did like the lore wrap-up very much.
 
No, they're demonstrating an astonishing lack of imagination in regards to BGS conflict.

most of the applications in BGS conflict given in this thread besides locking down random stations to annoy the people that call them home appear to be centred around locking down the BGS so there won't be any conflict for them to deal with
 

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I'll ask again - is there anyone who was actually on the "wrong" end of UA bombing really happy this has changed?

And by the wrong end I mean repeatedly having stations from the factions they manage UA bombed rather than fail to notice that a station was shut before docking at some random spot.
 
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i'm disappointed that this has been removed, just another case of making the 'universe' safer.
Exploration dangers have been killed off also, on the whole due too the 'cotton wool' syndrome in that you will be unlikey to cook jumping into a 'hot ' system where the entry point was close to a couple of suns. Where is the danger in Elite Dangerous ?
Cobra IV with 4 x 16T corrosion resitant racks and a little effort would garner you around 18-19Million. You also got the thrill from hoping the Thargoids didn't hyperdict you (you can still be the hyperdiction once its happened) they were more worrying than the normal npc pirates which are frankly a damp squib, not had as much fun since before the long range smuggling missions from Sothis etc back to the bubble.
What is worse is now they have been made 'safe' the galactic average value has gone up from 288K to 302K.
 
i'm disappointed that this has been removed, just another case of making the 'universe' safer.
Exploration dangers have been killed off also, on the whole due too the 'cotton wool' syndrome in that you will be unlikey to cook jumping into a 'hot ' system where the entry point was close to a couple of suns. Where is the danger in Elite Dangerous ?
Cobra IV with 4 x 16T corrosion resitant racks and a little effort would garner you around 18-19Million. You also got the thrill from hoping the Thargoids didn't hyperdict you (you can still be the hyperdiction once its happened) they were more worrying than the normal npc pirates which are frankly a damp squib, not had as much fun since before the long range smuggling missions from Sothis etc back to the bubble.
What is worse is now they have been made 'safe' the galactic average value has gone up from 288K to 302K.

You're still at danger for hyperdiction and pirates for carrying them and you can still make mad bank, that side of things hasn't changed in the slightest.
 
I'll ask again - is there anyone who was actually on the "wrong" end of UA bombing really happy this has changed?

And by the wrong end I mean repeatedly having stations from the factions they manage UA bombed rather than fail to notice that a station was shut before docking at some random spot.

I have no idea. But considering the people you exclude from your question are most certainly the overwhelming majority it seems a rather biased question. If a handful of people like bombing each other stations, and thousands of people are annoyed by that, we need a new mechanic for those folks that doesn't irritate the heck out of people for no good reason. It is mental you get to shutdown massive stations with impunity, it is thoroughly imbalanced, it takes zero skill and it directly aggravates loads of people who never asked for this.
 

Jane Turner

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I have no idea. But considering the people you exclude from your question are most certainly the overwhelming majority it seems a rather biased question. If a handful of people like bombing each other stations, and thousands of people are annoyed by that, we need a new mechanic for those folks that doesn't irritate the heck out of people for no good reason. It is mental you get to shutdown massive stations with impunity, it is thoroughly imbalanced, it takes zero skill and it directly aggravates loads of people who never asked for this.

The people most opposed to the change are the ones who "suffered" most from being UA bombed.... which does suggest that there is a bit of a pitch forks and torches thing going on. The internet is great for people getting outraged on behalf of others.


It was really simple to unlock stations if them being a shut was an issue... c 100th of the effort required to close them
 
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The people most opposed to the change are the ones who "suffered" most from being UA bombed

Just don't, Jane, figures are important, the sample is too small and doesn't even cover people who might have suffered UA Bombings and is not in the forum, or is in the forum and they just miss this post, or people that suffered UA Bombing, and deliberately ignore this thread.
 
I'll ask again - is there anyone who was actually on the "wrong" end of UA bombing really happy this has changed?

And by the wrong end I mean repeatedly having stations from the factions they manage UA bombed rather than fail to notice that a station was shut before docking at some random spot.

My former faction had their stations UA bombed from Solo Play (I have the screenshots from the offending party's Discord to prove it). Won't miss that!
 
Haha. This is so pathetic I can only laugh. Every time I get nostalgic and start considering my return to Elite FD provide me with a free reality check. This game has no cojones, no consequence, no freedom to trully "blaze your own trail", no place for a pirate or a bad guy but it does an amazing job as fanboy timesink.

Have you ever seen anyone among fdevs who talk or discuss proactively about introducing new PVP content, nah they're pretty much all carebear explorers or truckers. No offense to fdevs but that's just how I perceive them in general from all the videos, livestreams and posts on the forums.

Most of other MMO's usually have defined staff members who work really hard on the PVP aspect of their game. It doesn't seem to really happen here, at least not from the look of it.
 
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FD have done many things that appeal to me lately, so I just got six bobbleheads and a string light.
 
The people most opposed to the change are the ones who "suffered" most from being UA bombed.... which does suggest that there is a bit of a pitch forks and torches thing going on. The internet is great for people getting outraged on behalf of others.


It was really simple to unlock stations if them being a shut was an issue... c 100th of the effort required to close them

Have a look at post #242 to see a good reason why UA bombing was removed.
 

Jane Turner

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Just don't, Jane, figures are important, the sample is too small and doesn't even cover people who might have suffered UA Bombings and is not in the forum, or is in the forum and they just miss this post, or people that suffered UA Bombing, and deliberately ignore this thread.

Ok to be accurate the people who have commented in this thread that are most opposed to the change are the ones who have been extensively UA bombed.
 
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Ok to be accurate the people who have commented in this thread that are most opposed to the change are the ones who have been extensively UA bombed.

Nah', I just think it's stupid end of.

Good riddance to bad rubbish I say.

Having to fly to Maia just to get a station running was a bit of a urine-take for regular players like me.
 
Ok to be accurate the people who have commented in this thread that are most opposed to the change are the ones who have been extensively UA bombed.

Newton's Fusiliers were bombed twice - at least once from Solo Play. That's not extensive.

While we didn't complain and just got to the business of fixing our stations we certainly rolled our eyes at the whole affair. As I've said - I hope UA bombing doesn't let the door hit it where the good Thargod split it.
 
I'll ask again - is there anyone who was actually on the "wrong" end of UA bombing really happy this has changed?

And by the wrong end I mean repeatedly having stations from the factions they manage UA bombed rather than fail to notice that a station was shut before docking at some random spot.

Yes. Extremely happy.

Especially if the people doing it had no consequences for themselves.
 
Those of you wanting this protection are killing the game. BGS play is now like oatmeal. Now being a player faction means nothing. No challenges. Bra...vo.

Having a PMF should mean something to those playing for that PMF. If you define your whole existence or purpose playing the BGS as a Wing by trying to aggravate people to wreck your places so you can wreck theirs (assuming they have any to start with), well...you sure have a interesting definition of playing the BGS.

And no challenges? If you keep your PMF in your home System and don't expand out, that might be the case yes. Otherwise - no.
 

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If you look at that objectively, that's coming off as mocking and spiteful - and personal - and is likely to be one of the factors involved in deciding to end UA bombing.

So for the players who genuinely liked the mechanic and treated it as part of their fun gaming in the spirit it was intended (i.e. not personal/spiteful/mocking), then have all my sympathies. But instead of having a go at those who support the mechanic's removal, perhaps blame those players who used UA bombing in this more personal/micking/spiteful way?

You must be an absolute hoot at parties.

I think context was key here. Dont forget at the time this occured we lived in the time where vitriolic 'pvp is /ingame pirates are griefers and gankets/anyone who does something I dont like is a socioapth with RL mental issues/killing fuel rats is like shooting rl aid workers' posters were numerous and unchecked, and really dragging the quality of the forum community down, and it was interesting to see how bait far they could go/would be allowed to go with their responses to posts like that.
 
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