The Star Citizen Thread V10

[Alien]

Wow ... 580 posts in 6 days!
Please tell me that people on Frontier's General Gaming Forum section are nice, unbiased, non-toxic, pleasant folk who will look at other space games, which in the past may have deserved criticism, as all games may or may not do, but here do at least stay opened minded enough, and honest enough to admit when things they may have said or thought in the past are not what they may say or think now and can at least appreciate that things have changed and a certain other space simulation game is reaching a point now where it's actually showing some return on investment, even if you put the level of return fairly low, but still worth looking at now regardless of the fact several years have passed in development, but at least now, finally, they seem to making progress at a steady rate?

I don't think I've ever worded such a long question, so bravo if you read all of that.
TL;DR - anyone here still open to playing Star Citizen?

 

[Backer42]

anyone here still open to playing Star Citizen?

It's currently not free to play. Have to wait another two weeks.

 

[Navigare Necesse Est]

Wow ... 580 posts in 6 days!
Please tell me that people on Frontier's General Gaming Forum section are nice, unbiased, non-toxic, pleasant folk who will look at other space games, which in the past may have deserved criticism, as all games may or may not do, but here do at least stay opened minded enough, and honest enough to admit when things they may have said or thought in the past are not what they may say or think now and can at least appreciate that things have changed and a certain other space simulation game is reaching a point now where it's actually showing some return on investment, even if you put the level of return fairly low, but still worth looking at now regardless of the fact several years have passed in development, but at least now, finally, they seem to making progress at a steady rate?

I don't think I've ever worded such a long question, so bravo if you read all of that.
TL;DR - anyone here still open to playing Star Citizen?

Sure thing - I expect the MVP - the most valuable product -emerge from the pipeline some time.

 

[MTBFritz]

Wow ... 580 posts in 6 days!
Please tell me that people on Frontier's General Gaming Forum section are nice, unbiased, non-toxic, pleasant folk who will look at other space games, which in the past may have deserved criticism, as all games may or may not do, but here do at least stay opened minded enough, and honest enough to admit when things they may have said or thought in the past are not what they may say or think now and can at least appreciate that things have changed and a certain other space simulation game is reaching a point now where it's actually showing some return on investment, even if you put the level of return fairly low, but still worth looking at now regardless of the fact several years have passed in development, but at least now, finally, they seem to making progress at a steady rate?

I don't think I've ever worded such a long question, so bravo if you read all of that.
TL;DR - anyone here still open to playing Star Citizen?

Welcome to the thread Alien, dont be ashamed to post more then a snarky one-liner, people here post quite a lot on a regular basis so if you are up for reading I m sure you ll have a great time


As for my first question....do you think that Star Citizen needs an "adjustment speech" to justify its current state (you know...only started development 2016 for real and all that) or does the game currently stands solid enough to compete with established and released games?

 

[Alien]

It's currently not free to play. Have to wait another two weeks.

Are you waiting for another Free Fly Event?
I backed SC during its kickstarter, which was happening at the same time as Elite's kickstarter. I've only backed at the $60 level, only have an Origin 300i, only have 34k in-game money and have not spent any more than the $60 during the kickstarter. I may have waited 6 years, but I am happy to finally have been proved wrong, and am mature enough to admit it.

 

[Alien]

Welcome to the thread Alien, dont be ashamed to post more then a snarky one-liner, people here post quite a lot on a regular basis so if you are up for reading I m sure you ll have a great time


As for my first question....do you think that Star Citizen needs an "adjustment speech" to justify its current state (you know...only started development 2016 for real and all that) or does the game currently stands solid enough to compete with established and released games?

I don't think they should adjust anything, there is no shame in being honest.

 

[Starbreaker]

Are you waiting for another Free Fly Event?
I backed SC during its kickstarter, which was happening at the same time as Elite's kickstarter. I've only backed at the $60 level, only have an Origin 300i, only have 34k in-game money and have not spent any more than the $60 during the kickstarter. I may have waited 6 years, but I am happy to finally have been proved wrong, and am mature enough to admit it.

3.5 by the end of March should be interesting for you, your ship will have a rework and the new flight model is scheduled to be ready by then.

 

[Backer42]

Are you waiting for another Free Fly Event?
I backed SC during its kickstarter, which was happening at the same time as Elite's kickstarter. I've only backed at the $60 level, only have an Origin 300i, only have 34k in-game money and have not spent any more than the $60 during the kickstarter. I may have waited 6 years, but I am happy to finally have been proved wrong, and am mature enough to admit it.

I was smart enough to get my money out almost half a decade ago. This happened after I read an article in the Escapist with lots of allegations, which in hindsight turned out all being nothing but the truth. I only found out about the article due to Chris Roberts (or more likely Ortwin) publishing a very long response letter full of lies on the RSI website, which I read in its entirety.

Since then I play Star Citizen for free. As it is a P2W "game", the whales are responsible for paying Chris Roberts golden parachute - not me.

BTW: You sound like you've been out of the loop for awhile. So say Hello to your new boss of Star Citzen:

 

[Agony_Aunt]

Wow ... 580 posts in 6 days!
Please tell me that people on Frontier's General Gaming Forum section are nice, unbiased, non-toxic, pleasant folk who will look at other space games, which in the past may have deserved criticism, as all games may or may not do, but here do at least stay opened minded enough, and honest enough to admit when things they may have said or thought in the past are not what they may say or think now and can at least appreciate that things have changed and a certain other space simulation game is reaching a point now where it's actually showing some return on investment, even if you put the level of return fairly low, but still worth looking at now regardless of the fact several years have passed in development, but at least now, finally, they seem to making progress at a steady rate?

I don't think I've ever worded such a long question, so bravo if you read all of that.
TL;DR - anyone here still open to playing Star Citizen?

Well, if you are talking about Star Citizen, i think it still deserves criticism, and of course, there are things i consider black marks against CIG that cannot be forgotten no matter how good the game becomes. However, they could be at least be absolved... *cough* sorry, should have said overlooked, if they do deliver something worth playing.

As I recall (IIRC), you spent many years criticising FD for what they delivered, and i've never seen you change your opinion on that (i could be wrong!), despite FD having actually released a playable game and continued to interately improve on it over the years.

As for being open to playing SC, i did so, last free fly, it was rubbish in my opinion. I will try it again in the future during another free fly i'm sure. Maybe one day they will make release, and at that point, i'll take a long hard look at it, because it is technically speaking a space game, so of interest. Whether i will give CIG any money will very much depend on what is actually released though. I don't pay for dreams and marketing.

 

[Alien]

I was smart enough to get my money out almost half a decade ago. This happened after I read an article in the Escapist with lots of allegations, which in hindsight turned out all being nothing but the truth. I only found out about the article due to Chris Roberts (or more likely Ortwin) publishing a very long response letter full of lies on the RSI website, which I read in its entirety.

Since then I play Star Citizen for free. As it is a P2W "game", the whales are responsible for paying Chris Roberts golden parachute - not me.

BTW: You sound like you've been out of the loop for awhile. So say Hello to your new boss of Star Citzen:

What I've spent so far ($60) is no more than I'd spend buying any other game. I paid €65 for X4 and don't regret any of it. I paid £150 to back Elite Dangerous, then upped that to £200 then I have bought paintjobs and bobbleheads and a 2nd account and don't regret any of it. I backed Limit Theory for a small amount, didn't get anything and don't regret it.

That Star Citizen will not get another penny from me, for as long as they sell ships for real world cash, I don't regret paying $60.

 

[Alien]

As I recall (IIRC), you spent many years criticising FD for what they delivered, and i've never seen you change your opinion on that (i could be wrong!), despite FD having actually released a playable game and continued to interately improve on it over the years.

Fair comment, and I won't deny it. I have been critical of Frontier and unless we start getting specific, which isn't for this thread, I can't say if my opinion has changed.

 

[MTBFritz]

What I've spent so far ($60) is no more than I'd spend buying any other game. I paid €65 for X4 and don't regret any of it. I paid £150 to back Elite Dangerous, then upped that to £200 then I have bought paintjobs and bobbleheads and a 2nd account and don't regret any of it. I backed Limit Theory for a small amount, didn't get anything and don't regret it.

That Star Citizen will not get another penny from me, for as long as they sell ships for real world cash, I don't regret paying $60.

I m with you on that. That being said, have you played Star Citizen recently? And if not, when was your last hands-on experience with it?

 

[Alien]

I m with you on that. That being said, have you played Star Citizen recently? And if not, when was your last hands-on experience with it?

I've been playing SC for the last few days now. The 3.4 PTU runs better on my PC than 3.3.7

 

[Ian Skippy]

TL;DR - anyone here still open to playing Star Citizen?

Some are. Others have repeatedly stated they want CIG and SC to fail as spectacularly and publicly as possible.

 

[Mole HD]

Wow ... 580 posts in 6 days!
Please tell me that people on Frontier's General Gaming Forum section are nice, unbiased, non-toxic, pleasant folk who will look at other space games, which in the past may have deserved criticism, as all games may or may not do, but here do at least stay opened minded enough, and honest enough to admit when things they may have said or thought in the past are not what they may say or think now and can at least appreciate that things have changed and a certain other space simulation game is reaching a point now where it's actually showing some return on investment, even if you put the level of return fairly low, but still worth looking at now regardless of the fact several years have passed in development, but at least now, finally, they seem to making progress at a steady rate?

I don't think I've ever worded such a long question, so bravo if you read all of that.
TL;DR - anyone here still open to playing Star Citizen?

There's a few of us they keep in the cellar...they let us out now and then, give us a keyboard and tell us what to type...then they all laugh.

We mostly float down here...

 

[Ian Skippy]

Are you waiting for another Free Fly Event?
I backed SC during its kickstarter, which was happening at the same time as Elite's kickstarter. I've only backed at the $60 level, only have an Origin 300i, only have 34k in-game money and have not spent any more than the $60 during the kickstarter. I may have waited 6 years, but I am happy to finally have been proved wrong, and am mature enough to admit it.

many haven't been proven wrong though. The big promises are still completely absent, and many of them not even on the planning. It is a far cry from the '100 systems, massive 1000+ players battles, countless lifelike NPC with never-seen before AI, player-hosted servers with full mod capability' etc etc.

 

[Tuub t Tute]

many haven't been proven wrong though. The big promises are still completely absent, and many of them not even on the planning. It is a far cry from the '100 systems, massive 1000+ players battles, countless lifelike NPC with never-seen before AI, player-hosted servers with full mod capability' etc etc.

The modding handbook is still for sale on the website though

 

[Cobra1984]

Some are. Others have repeatedly stated they want CIG and SC to fail as spectacularly and publicly as possible.

I'll hold my hands up to that. I have said repeatedly that I will take great pleasure in watching them shutter the project for good.

I believe beyond any shadow of doubt that it is a scam because they cannot and will not deliver the product they have sold and crowdfunded for.

 

[Cobra1984]

Guard Frequency have posted a tl;dr of their ep242 podcast covering both Star Citizen development and the new CIG part owners.

https://old.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/a7ckwb/guard_frequency_episode_242_floppy_rocket/

 

[VR Golgot]

TL;DR - anyone here still open to playing Star Citizen?

Not personally, mainly because I've joined the cult of VR and haven't been back to pancake since

Even if I was still flat-gaming though, I wouldn't be in at the moment. I can see that it's getting closer to a potentially-amusing janky sandbox, and that could be fun, especially as I love me some infantry+vehicle mucking about, and space. But I would need a good reason to pay AAA prices for a janky unfinished sandbox even then. And there are still too many issues hanging over it, like:

Will the flight model ever get nailed down?; Will the performance gains be walked back by further additions to the game?; Will the game only ever hit an MVP level or get shipped in a broken / messy / uninspiring state?; Will the P2W roots of the game ever get dug up and cast out?; Will Chris's worryingly dull ideas like peeing requirements make it into the game?; Will the thing where you turn into an 'eyeball' ever get fixed, along with other recursive bugs? Etc etc etc etc.

I mean I'm not even asking: 'Will they achieve all their Kickstarter goals?', or 'Will all Chris's Ten for the Chairmen pitches come true?'. I"m not unreasonable . I get that lots of that is la-la land. I just genuinely don't see the game's future as nailed on functional or fun at the moment. So ponying up AAA cash (let alone significantly more for extra ships) wouldn't be the way for me.

Seems like waiting to see what the hell they end up with is the best plan. If you're deeply sceptical about the design mind driving the project, and the pragmatics of their overall pitches, that is.

But hell yeah, if you've already bought in go hunt bugs in the sand, enjoy what's currently there