Too much gas giants with 8 moons.
Like, literally, thousands of them, even close to the bubble.

I've seen a databse dump, for wich you can querry all bodies, ending with "H", so that kind of list is compilable, but still, i'd guess we need to at decide on a region of search. (Database dump can be found here https://eddb.io/api)

Also, there's no guarantee that system was honked and reported to EDDB/ADSM.
There was rumor about either system with DW station being honked, or ssytem, containg raxxla, being honked (if those are really diffrent systems), but that rumor never got any solid proof, the best i heared is that some dev said that on some of offline meeting, so no records of that exist.

The station on the intro screen does look like it could be the DW one, but that shot is almost 100% not an ingame shot, but a compilation of objects. And not enough info for triangulation there.

The station is rumored to be in 'silent running' mode, letting little heat escape. Therefore it will not show on any scans. You'll have to manually search for it.
 
The station is rumored to be in 'silent running' mode, letting little heat escape. Therefore it will not show on any scans. You'll have to manually search for it.

Yeah, i know, i know. And that's exactly what Stinja is suggesting - to compile a list of 8th moons near gas giants and look around them manually for that silent-running station.
That could work if that moon is already in the DB, which might not be the case.

Also a question is - will that station appear as a signal source on FSS? From the codex article it looks like "No".

So there's basically two routes we are exploring right now:
1. Route to Raxxla through Raxxla codex article, which has links to Astrophel (being it Astrophel and Stella, or another petry, written in memorial for the author of the 1st one) and greek mythology. And also that DW pledge.
2. Route to Raxxla through Dark Whell (that silent running sation might have some links to where Raxxla is), in that case we have a hint that DW is rumored to find you themself after completing a special kind of "quest".

Devs only said that Raxxla is indeed already ingame, but we don't know if the way to join darkwheel is already implemented, or if Raxxla is in permited system. And if not if there is a way to get that permit.
It might be that way to Raxxla can be found with DarkWheel. But as well it could be that Raxxla opens a way to join DarkWheel, and finding Raxxla yourself is that special quest to join DW.
 
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Quick write up - don't know how/where to post editable text files without my IRL name being connected to it, so, posting it here. Missing anything?

"To the jewel that burns on the mother of galaxies! To the whisperer in witchspace, the siren of the deepest void!
The parent's grief, the lover's wore, and the yearning of our vagabond hearts. To Raxxla!" -Dark Wheel Toast

Mother of galaxies = Cassiopeiae
Jewel = Zeta Cassiopeia
Whisperer in Witchspace - ?
Siren of the deepest void - ?
The Parent's grief - Fluk the Dog (check the inhabited heart system)
Lover's Woe - Reference to sonnet 19, Astrophel and Stella

Astrophel and the Spiralling Stars = Astrophel and Stella

1

Loving in truth, and fain in verse my love to show,
That she (dear She) might take some pleasure of my pain:
Pleasure might cause her read, reading might make her know,
Knowledge might pity win, and pity grace obtain,
I sought fit words to paint the blackest face of woe,
Studying inventions fine, her wits to entertain:
Oft turning others' leaves, to see if thence would flow
Some fresh and fruitful showers upon my sun-burned brain.
But words came halting forth, wanting Invention's stay,
Invention, Nature's child, fled step-dame Study's blows,
And others' feet still seemed but strangers in my way.
Thus great with child to speak, and helpless in my throes,
Biting my truant pen, beating myself for spite,
'Fool' said my Muse to me, 'look in thy heart and write.'

9

Queen Vertues court, some call Stellas face,
Prepar'd by Natures chiefest furniture,
Hath his front built of Alabaster pure;
Gold is the covering of that stately place
The doore by which sometimes comes forth her Grace,
Red Porphir is, which locke of pearl makes sure:
Whose porches rich (which name of cheeks endure)
Marble mixt red and white do enterlace.
The windowes now through which this heav'nly guest
Looks over the world, and can find nothing such,
Which dare claime from those lights the name of best.
Of touch they are that without touch doth touch,
Which Cupids selfe from Beauties myne did draw:
Of touch they are, and poore I am their straw.

19

On Cupid's bow how are my heartstrings bent,
That see my wrack, and yet embrace the same?
When most I glory, then I feel most shame:
I willing run, yet while I run, repent.
My best wits still their own disgrace invent:
My very ink turns straight to Stella's name;
And yet my words, as them my pen doth frame,
Avise themselves that they are vainly spent.
For though she pass all things, yet what is all
That unto me, who fare like him that both
Looks to the skies and in a ditch doth fall?
Oh let me prop my mind, yet in his growth,
And not in Nature, for best fruits unfit:
"Scholar," saith Love, "bend hitherward your wit."

20

Fly, fly, my friends, I have my death wound; fly!
See there that boy, that murthering boy I say,
Who like a thief, hid in dark bush doth lie,
Till bloody bullet get him wrongful prey.
So tyrant he no fitter place could spy,
Nor so fair level in so secret stay,
As that sweet black which veils the heav'nly eye:
There himself with his shot he close doth lay.
Poor passenger, pass now thereby I did,
And stayed pleas'd with the prospect of the place,
While that black hue from me the bad guest hid:
But straight I saw motions of lightning grace,
And then descried the glist'ring of his dart:
But ere I could fly hence, it pierc'd my heart.


Cupid's bow - bow's need an arrow. O-stars through NGC 7822 are known as Cupid's Arrow.

"Scholar," saith Love, "bend hitherward your wit." - Search for love. Love is associated with the heart and the soul - H&S nebulae.

As that sweet black which veils the heav'nly eye: Veil? Veil nebulae? A heaven'ly eye must be spherical (eye), so it's definitely a planet or star. Alternatively and more literally, Cat's Eye nebula is a possibility, but it's very distant in the galactic top, not sure if it's reachable. The spanish codex description of Raxxla's location, en la cima, means at the top - making this more likely.

Sonnet 20 refers to an ambush. Someone will likely obstruct our path. The last person to put there nose in the wrong place - Salome - died.

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The portal on Raxxla is named the Omphalos Rift. An Omphalos mean's 'navel', or in Ancient Greek mythology, a 'center'. In Greek lore, Zeus sent two Eagles around the world at equal speed and opposite direction, and where they converged he laid down the Omphalos stone, to mark the center of the world. This real-world location was of great importance to the ancient Greeks, who called it 'Delphi'. The Pleaides Sector IR-W D1-55 was recently (after 3.3) renamed to Delphi, and it was the center of the Thargoid attacks on humans, and the location of both the Aegis defense program, and the Eagle Eye thargoid detection program. Coincidence?

Some people think that the two Eagles might be of importance. There are two nebulae named after eagles - the Eagle nebula, and the Aquila nebula (latin for eagle). They speculate that the midpoint between these two nebulae might hold a clue.
 
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"To the jewel that burns on the mother of galaxies! To the whisperer in witchspace, the siren of the deepest void!
The parent's grief, the lover's wore, and the yearning of our vagabond hearts. To Raxxla!" -Dark Wheel Toast

Mother of galaxies = Cassiopeiae
Jewel = Zeta Cassiopeia
Whisperer in Witchspace - ?
Siren of the deepest void - ?
The Parent's grief - Fluk the Dog (check the inhabited heart system)
Lover's Woe - Reference to sonnet 19, Astrophel and Stella

IMO
Whisperer in Witchspace = Siren of the deepest void
Still they must be something, the sound of witchspace, i guess, was already spectrum-analyzed, but may be we should do it once again, there could be subtle changes in it (or they could appear depending on your jump, another theory to check).
How do you do that? Need to grab the sound (finding it in resources might not work), and then use some tool?

As for Fluk the dog - don't really think that's the one, that pledge is older (in ingame terms) then Fluk's memorial, so must be smth else.
Lover's Woe = why exactly number 19? That one doesn't really look like a wov.

I think it's mostly like that:

To the jewel that burns on the mother of galaxies! = To Zeta Cassiopea
To the whisperer in witchspace, the siren of the deepest void = ?Where? (Spectrum analysis of withspace sound during jump from Cass-Z?)
To The parent's grief, the lover's wore, and the yearning of our vagabond hearts. = ?Where? (Here comes the link to Astrophel, either to the Philip Sidney's one, or to Edmund Spenser's one)

Can someone screenshot exactly how that pledge is spelled in Codex in english?
 
IMO
Whisperer in Witchspace = Siren of the deepest void
Still they must be something, the sound of witchspace, i guess, was already spectrum-analyzed, but may be we should do it once again, there could be subtle changes in it (or they could appear depending on your jump, another theory to check).
How do you do that? Need to grab the sound (finding it in resources might not work), and then use some tool?

As for Fluk the dog - don't really think that's the one, that pledge is older (in ingame terms) then Fluk's memorial, so must be smth else.
Lover's Woe = why exactly number 19? That one doesn't really look like a wov.

I think it's mostly like that:

To the jewel that burns on the mother of galaxies! = To Zeta Cassiopea
To the whisperer in witchspace, the siren of the deepest void = ?Where? (Spectrum analysis of withspace sound during jump from Cass-Z?)
To The parent's grief, the lover's wore, and the yearning of our vagabond hearts. = ?Where? (Here comes the link to Astrophel, either to the Philip Sidney's one, or to Edmund Spenser's one)

Can someone screenshot exactly how that pledge is spelled in Codex in english?

It could've just been me, but witchspace seems very different near Heart and Soul - more moving green spots and odd noises.

Don't know what a wov is. Sonnet 19 describes the frustration Sidney feels when he attempts to make clear his love for Stella in words, which is a form of woe, I think.

wore = woe, I misspelled, sorry. I wrote the toast from memory, but I believe I wrote it just about perfectly. I'll be playing Elite later, if you want a screenshot.
 
Hello Commanders!
I have to say this forum has been an excellent source of entertainment for me since the update came out. I love all of the different ideas that have been posted on here and I would like to add my two cents.

I would like to talk about this passage from the codex:

"It is futile to attempt to contact the Dark Wheel of one's own initiative. However - it is they who always initiate contact, initially in disguise, revealing their true identity once a suitable test of courage and skill has been discreetly administered, and passed."

It seems like a lot of people see what the codex says as law except for this passage, I think most of the clues discussed here are correct (Polaris, Delphi, heart and soul, F Rift, etc) but all lead to permit locked systems. So I think maybe we should be focusing on how to get a message or something from the dark wheel instead of trying to find a station that is most likely in a permit locked system anyway. I stumbled upon a novella that apparently came out in 1984 with the original game called Elite: The Dark Wheel by Robert Holdstock. Now I’m sure many of you have heard about it and possibly even read it but I’m curious if you guys think that the journey Alex Ryder had to go through is possibly something we would have to do now. In the story he had to be elite in combat to get an invitation from the dark wheel and from the way the codex entry sounds in the newest update that’s spot on. I also wonder if an elite rank in CQC is also necessary as, if I’m not mistaken, there was at least one system permit gained from CQC in the past. I definitely don’t think that’s all it would take but it might be a good first step. If you had to be elite in something to get to Shinrarta Dezhra then there’s no reason why it wouldn’t be something similar to be invited to the Dark Wheel station especially considering how they talk about only taking the best of the best. I doubt a secretive group like this would have an open front door near the bubble for anyone to find if that was the case.

Thanks for reading my long post and best of luck in the search for Raxxla!

P.S- also saw something about a planet named Soontill that the Dark Wheel found instead of Raxxla don’t know if it’s canon or if there’s any truth in it
 
IMO
Whisperer in Witchspace = Siren of the deepest void
Still they must be something, the sound of witchspace, i guess, was already spectrum-analyzed, but may be we should do it once again, there could be subtle changes in it (or they could appear depending on your jump, another theory to check).
How do you do that? Need to grab the sound (finding it in resources might not work), and then use some tool?

As for Fluk the dog - don't really think that's the one, that pledge is older (in ingame terms) then Fluk's memorial, so must be smth else.
Lover's Woe = why exactly number 19? That one doesn't really look like a wov.

I think it's mostly like that:

To the jewel that burns on the mother of galaxies! = To Zeta Cassiopea
To the whisperer in witchspace, the siren of the deepest void = ?Where? (Spectrum analysis of withspace sound during jump from Cass-Z?)
To The parent's grief, the lover's wore, and the yearning of our vagabond hearts. = ?Where? (Here comes the link to Astrophel, either to the Philip Sidney's one, or to Edmund Spenser's one)

Can someone screenshot exactly how that pledge is spelled in Codex in english?

I've been following this thread for awhile and also have been obsessed ingame searching for both Raxxla and The Dark Wheel...but from the bit about the Sirens I tried to use this as a reference https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siren_(mythology)#List_of_Sirens but came up short as I didn't notice any systems or stars with the names of sirens...unless I overlooked them
 
It could've just been me, but witchspace seems very different near Heart and Soul - more moving green spots and odd noises.

Don't know what a wov is. Sonnet 19 describes the frustration Sidney feels when he attempts to make clear his love for Stella in words, which is a form of woe, I think.

wore = woe, I misspelled, sorry. I wrote the toast from memory, but I believe I wrote it just about perfectly. I'll be playing Elite later, if you want a screenshot.

Thought it was vow, not woe, and misspelled too.
Where do i change ingame language?
My game is in Russian, and can't find that in options.

In russian version of the codex that DW pledge is intrestingly spelled to mean not "to" (which can be understood 2 ways), but directly mean "for", but that might be bad translation.
As for the woe part - it's translated in a way so it's not the one who loves is frustrated (astrophel in our case), but the one who is loved (Stella), is there a part of those sonnets in which Stella would be sad?

Reading that codex artice in russian once again and i really doubt that Astrophel and Stella is the thing we need.
"Princess Astrophel and Spiralling Stars" might be some kind of metaphorical link to a real tale, which shouldn't be taken literally.

So, IMO, our path to Raxxla (if that pledge is indeed the path, which very much looks so) would be split in those parts (backwars translation from russian, so correct me where it's wrong):
1. To the Jewel in the crown of mother of galaxies = Cass Z, and here we have no doubts.
2. To the whisper in witchspace, siren of the deepest void = to be found out, would be heading to Cass Z to check theory about witchspace sounds.
3. To the father's grief = To be found out, but let's say for now that it's indeed that nice doggy memorial.
4. To the lovers woe = Again, need to find where we are heading
5. To the yearning of our vagabond hearts = ???

The last three might actually be one in 3 parts. The best guess we have for now - it's Astrophel and Stella, and we need to chose the right sonnets from it.
Part 5 might be linking to sonnet 20, which reads:
"Fly, fly, my friends, I have my death wound; fly!"

In that case Previous two logically might be earlier, but can't be sure, and part 3 would be something like: To XX XX 20
Might end up as some kind of coordinates or a link to where we need to go.

Pass me tinfoil, while i travel from eagle nebula (awesome, but nothing here, and i lost my Asp...) to Cass Z...

Also, speaking of Astrophell and Stella, there's one version which is partly adapted, can be found here, it has original part on one page, and then adpated version on another. Might be easier for understanding: https://www.poetryintranslation.com/klineassidney.php
 
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Good ideas, CyberTribe.

Cat's Eye has no star - therefore it is impossible to reach. However, this doesn't make any sense - for there to be a planetary nebula there, there must have been some stellar event to create that nebula, which must result in either a neutron star, black hole, or white dwarf - none of which is exists there. NOTHING exists there. Perhaps, referencing A&S Sonnet 20 again,

"As that sweet black which veils the heav'nly eye:"

Something veils, or hides, the star from us, and the eye is literally the Cat's Eye.
 
Ok, here comes CODEX screenshots of what is important in my opinion:

At first, it's the DW article about joining DW:
HcmhaZN.jpg

So, you "unknowingly" follow some path, and afterwards you are contacted by DW.

Next one is that spacestation part:
In CODEX:
z9qdDxu.jpg

In main menu video:
zp1vu9L.jpg

We safely can assume that in this video we see that darkwheel station (if we forget about lower part of the video, with SRV)
Not much data for triangulating the exact location, but the star seems to be at least F-class, and it's rather close. Can't decide on the type of a planet, someone with better experience in exloration could give a hand here.

Now that toast/pledge part:
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That one looks exactly like a path somewhere:
1. To the jewel that burns on the brow of the mother of galaxies! = Cass Z
2. To the whisperer in witch-space, the siren of the deepst void = ??? (may be should be split in two, bt most likely is one)
3. The parent's grief, the lover's woe, and the yearning of our vagabond hearts. = ??? (may be should be split in 3 parts).

I'll check the theory about part 2 when i get to cass Z (and find out needed apps to do spectrum-analysis)
Part 3 puzzles me most.

As for other clues from the CODEX:
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Artifact - Omphalos Rift (Greek mythology link?) That myth about 2 eagles and all that. Either another myth about stone which was given to Kronos instead of feedig him Zeus (that one was called Omphalos too).
Children's story "Princess Astrophel and the Spiralling stars" (Link to Sydneys' sonnets?).
Also, "Hints for those with eyes to see" in that Astrophel story.

The best we got is "Princess Astrophel and the Spiralling stars" = "Astrophel and Stella", but personally i doubt that's the one.
IMO most likely it's some other story that we should find, and that "Princess Astrophel and the spiraling stars" is a metaphorical link to some other story. Could be a story from greek mythology also.
Any children's stories about princess and stars that come to mind? May be some short animation film, for example? I'd guess it also should be connected with the next part:
D0lUt2O.jpg

And that one is intresting because of that "fernweh" sensation, which is a german world: "From fern (“far”) +‎ Weh (“pain”). Can be literally translated as farsickness or longing for far-off places, as contrasted with Heimweh (“homesickness, longing for home”)." (quote from wikitionary).

If the Princess Astrophel and the spiralling stars = Astrophel and Stella theory is correct, then the key to part 3 of the Raxxla path is hidden in those sonnets (and songs also), but it's possible that understanding it is possible only after exploring part 2 of the path.
 
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Has it been noted, that the Codex entry regarding Universal Cartographics contains a strange ,,mistake''? The written text says, that Universal Cartographics arose from a merger of Omphalos Infotech and Devaine-Bright Interstellar. The speaker reads instead ,,Unified Infotech'' - in every occasion, where the word ,,Omphalos'' is written. It seems, the ,,mistake'' is quiet systematic. Alas, I have no idea, what this should mean :-/

[Update] typo ;-)
 
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Has it been noted, that the Codex entry regarding Universal Cartographics contains a strange ,,mistake''? The written text says, that Universal Cartographics arose from a merger of Omphalos Infotech and Devaine-Bright Interstellar. The speaker reads instead ,,Unified Infotech'' - in every occasion, where the word ,,Omphalos'' is written. It seems, the ,,mistake'' is quiet systematic. Alas, I have no idea, what this should mean :-/

[Update] typo ;-)

Now, that's a thing to take a note of.
In that case the system, containing Raxxla or/and DarkWheel might be there, but not in the Galaxy Map, because of UC being connected with Dark Wheel.
If tha't s the case - there's no point in goind through all 8th moons of gas giants - it won't be there anyway.

Now, need to read through all other CODEX articles, there might as well be some connections.


As a side note, are those articles accessible without Eite running?
 
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Ive noted in this thread time and two interviews where DBraben uses that word oddly when talking about raxxla... I think there is something to that
 
Has it been noted, that the Codex entry regarding Universal Cartographics contains a strange ,,mistake''? The written text says, that Universal Cartographics arose from a merger of Omphalos Infotech and Devaine-Bright Interstellar. The speaker reads instead ,,Unified Infotech'' - in every occasion, where the word ,,Omphalos'' is written. It seems, the ,,mistake'' is quiet systematic. Alas, I have no idea, what this should mean :-/

[Update] typo ;-)

Omphalos - a religious artifact - in ancient Greek meaning navel. In Greek lore Zeus sent two eagles across the world... (sound familiar)...

Agreed simply a typo....

There is of course a real children's story: Stella Princess of the Sky; Marie Louise Grey. There are so many interpretations.

As time goes on I'm more inclined to hope the intro to the Codex is just that, I'd hate to think Raxxla could be found just by figuring out a series of pen and paper puzzles.

I may never tire of this tinfoilery but if I do the DW wheel missions activation is next on my priority, as with the older missions, I hope their the primary and more fulfilling journey.
 
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Hi all, have been reading the thread with interest for a while now, anyway just something In noticed in the Codex today and thought I'd see what you lot make of it.
So in the Codex regarding the Dark Wheel, Felicity Farseer says,

"Now think about how easy it would be for some two-bit band of hucksters to pass themselves off as the Dark Wheel and start trading on their reputation. Doesn't happen, does it? Not for long, anyway. Whenever someone tries to usurp the Dark Wheel name, sooner or later they quietly get shut down, And thats how I know."

So does this mean that the Dark Wheel in Shinrarta Dezhra are in fact the genuine Dark Wheel? and if not then why have they not yet been "shut down"?
 
Quick write up - don't know how/where to post editable text files without my IRL name being connected to it, so, posting it here. Missing anything?

"To the jewel that burns on the mother of galaxies! To the whisperer in witchspace, the siren of the deepest void!
The parent's grief, the lover's wore, and the yearning of our vagabond hearts. To Raxxla!" -Dark Wheel Toast

Mother of galaxies = Cassiopeiae
Jewel = Zeta Cassiopeia
Whisperer in Witchspace - ?
Siren of the deepest void - ?
The Parent's grief - Fluk the Dog (check the inhabited heart system)
Lover's Woe - Reference to sonnet 19, Astrophel and Stella

Astrophel and the Spiralling Stars = Astrophel and Stella

Cass Zeta wouldn't be a bad choice given how the constellation is classically depicted, but 14 lambda Cassiopeia wouldn't be a bad choice either.

Regarding "Princess Astrophel and the Spiralling Stars = Astrophel and Stella", "spiralling stars" might be a literal reference to the jagged shape of the Cassiopeia constellation?

Alternatively, Princess Astrophel and the Spiralling Stars could be a reference to the Pleaides seven stars? Given "the Omphalos Rift", the renaming of Pleaides Sector IR-W D1-55 to Delphi, and the "Omphalos" reference in the Universal Cartographics, this seems likely too.

Need more tinfoil.
 
"To the Jewel that burns on the brow of the Mother of Galaxies"
The Star In Cassiopeia's (Mother of Princess Andromeda) Brow is Zeta Cassiopeia and that is the believed starting point. This would be fitting given the meaning of Zeta Cass has been defined as a by-path or auxillary road.

Guru, would you (or anyone else) be willing to clarify how you arrived at Zeta Cassiopeia being the "Jewel that burns on the brow"? I understand "Mother of Galaxies" = "Cassiopeia" but I'm not 100% on why "Jewel" = Zeta Cassiopeia. From what I've seen of classical depictions of the constellation (e.g. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6b/Sidney_Hall_-_Urania%27s_Mirror_-_Cassiopeia_%28image_right_side_up%29.jpg), ζ Cass would be no more fitting than, say, v Cass, in terms of distance from the "actual brow". Was it just a matter of "close enough"? Not trying to be disparaging, I'm genuinely curious. I also remember you mentioning a road map of checkpoints and having some sort of confirmation that ζ Cass was absolutely the correct first step, but I'm not seeing as concrete of a connection as you are. Would you mind clarifying? I'd like to help out with this but I think I need more confidence in the correct place to start.
 
Strange as it may seem, "To the whisperer in witch-space, the siren of the deepest void" sounds like Thargoids to me.

"the whisperer in witch-space" - Thargoids are the only thing we know of that can navigate witch-space (able to pull players out of hyperspace)
"the siren of the deepest void" - Far more of a stretch, but the sounds they make could pretty adequately be described as a siren of a deep void.
 
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