the FSS, watching paint dry....

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This is the point really. There was no need to remove the old stuff, it's not a race to scan the quickest, it only matters who sells their data first, if it matters at all and that's all on jump range.

They havent taken the honk/old stuff away, you just access the information in a more fun expanded way now. Its an additional thing not a removal.
 
Some didn't even bother to try the game in Beta but were damn vocal during Beta on how bad it is.

Was i wrong? No i wasnt. I was so sure of what it was i hung myself out, you could have all told me how wrong i was... Even people who didnt like what i said, played it for a bit and realised i was telling the truth. You know why? Ever played a game where you cant skip teh cut scene? And then you die and it makes you watch it again? Or a game with some long, long intro and it wont let you skip it? So tiresome isnt it? Just like the FSS.
 
They havent taken the honk/old stuff away, you just access the information in a more fun expanded way now. Its an additional thing not a removal.

I think you just don't understand the issue under discussion Stigbob. It's okay, you don't have to as long as the people whose opinion on this matters do. Your game won't be affected.
 
Yes, the honk is still a god-mode reveal - but just to add that little bit of classic FD aggravation, you now have to zero the throttle to see it so that your trip can be so much more enjoyable by adding another 10 secs to each jump.

Such an improvement...

A true joy when you've only got another 8KLY's to go to get back to the bubble

Well done FD
 
Was i wrong? No i wasnt. I was so sure of what it was i hung myself out, you could have all told me how wrong i was... Even people who didnt like what i said, played it for a bit and realised i was telling the truth. You know why? Ever played a game where you cant skip teh cut scene? And then you die and it makes you watch it again? Or a game with some long, long intro and it wont let you skip it? So tiresome isnt it? Just like the FSS.

I think you were wrong in your criticism and guess what, I am not the only one who like the new system - guess that makes me RIGHT :D
 
Was i wrong? No i wasnt. I was so sure of what it was i hung myself out, you could have all told me how wrong i was... Even people who didnt like what i said, played it for a bit and realised i was telling the truth. You know why? Ever played a game where you cant skip teh cut scene? And then you die and it makes you watch it again? Or a game with some long, long intro and it wont let you skip it? So tiresome isnt it? Just like the FSS.

And there are people that thought the same as you and have since changed their mind after trying it out.
 
I think you just don't understand the issue under discussion Stigbob. It's okay, you don't have to as long as the people whose opinion on this matters do. Your game won't be affected.

FDEV's opinion is the only one that matters and they go by the metrics not the screeching of the usual serial whinging edgecases.
 
Yes, the honk is still a god-mode reveal - but just to add that little bit of classic FD aggravation, you now have to zero the throttle to see it so that your trip can be so much more enjoyable by adding another 10 secs to each jump.

Such an improvement...

A true joy when you've only got another 8KLY's to go to get back to the bubble

Well done FD

So the new version isn't a God honk reveal then. Did you mean to contradict yourself?
 
I was thinking, how there are those disinformation posts about "oh 95% think FSS is engaging" whatever..

That's just the usual internet nostradamus syndrome, where imaginary numbers are pulled from rears in order to establish "me = huge majority and different opinion = vocal minority". The truth is nobody knows how many like or dislike the FSS.
 
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Nice profiling, blame it all on the console kiddies [facepalm].

Wasnt totally meant that way :) If i was making this game, it would have been alot truer to the original. I could write a book about it. Then again, im mad about new starwars, mad about the kelvin timeline, think BSG was about 70% really good and the rest wasnt and like star trek discovery? WT*? it spins around... what nonsense is this? The inside of the ship looks like the stargate parody episode and im gonna stop now before i break any forum rules. But maybe thats what people like these days... what do i know?
 
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That's just the usual internet nostradamus syndrome, where imaginary numbers are pulled from rears in order to establish "me = huge majority and different opinion = vocal minority". The truth is nobody knows how many like or dislike the FSS.

Very much like the post you replied to. Made up figures and made up quotes.

Nope we don't know, but we have a very good idea how many are complaining and it is a minuscule amount of the player base.
 
FDEV's opinion is the only one that matters

Indeed. My aim is to change their opinion. I am not trying to change yours, although it would be helpful if you took on board that what I am looking for would not affect you at all if you didn't use it. I am happy that you now enjoy exploration & discovery & have no wish to deny you any of that enjoyment.
 
That's just the usual internet nostradamus syndrome, where imaginary numbers are pulled from rears in order to establish "me = huge majority and different opinion = vocal minority". The truth is nobody knows how many like or dislike the FSS.

And just as with the 3.3 feature announcement thread, many may not express their view because they feel intimidated by the more assertive among us. To be fair I am probably considered one of those people too, but I do try to make my reasoning as clear as I can.
 
Wasnt totally meant that way :) If i was making this game, it would have been alot truer to the original. I could write a book about it. Then again, im mad about new starwars, mad about the kelvin timeline, think BSG was about 70% really good and the rest wasnt and like star trek discovery? WT*? it spins around... what nonsense is this? The inside of the ship looks like the stargate parody episode and im gonna stop now before i break any forum rules. But maybe thats what people like these days... what do i know?

Shock horror. People like different things. I'm 44 years old and played the original Elite on my ZX spectrum and I didn't mind Star Trek Discovery, I applaud them for trying something different. Kelvin timeline films, first and third movies I really enjoyed. BSG was great as was Farscape. I hated Stargate though when others loved it.

Different tastes, that is all. When it comes to things like that and this game, there is no right or wrong, just personal opinion.
 
but just to add that little bit of classic FD aggravation, you now have to zero the throttle to see it so that your trip can be so much more enjoyable by adding another 10 secs to each jump.

I've been exploring with these new tools almost exclusively since 3.3 dropped, and I am becoming frustrated with some of the "classic Frontier aggravation" mentioned. I actually started my own thread to request some modifications to what I feel are otherwise wonderful tools. To your point, and my own:

1) If I'm in normal space, I can honk from the HUD, but I can't access the FSS unless I jump to Supercruise, which requires me to throttle up. Once I hit SC, then I have to throttle right back down to zero to use the FSS. [Insert favorite profanities here]

2) I can activate the FSS in Combat Mode, happy happy! I can then honk inside the FSS, in that same Combat Mode. But I can't just honk in Combat Mode....

3) I have to be in Analysis Mode to use the surface probes. Yet I can turn off Analysis Mode immediately after firing those probes, and the probes still work just fine, in Combat Mode, yet I had to turn on Analysis Mode to be able to bring up the probe screen. BTW, that probe screen gives me everything I need, I don't need it replicated in my HUD....

In case you don't know, I absolutely hate this Analysis Mode HUD as a requirement to use these tools. I hate seeing "The Matrix" outside my glass cockpit window! It's fine when using my little probe targeting screen, but I when I'm looking out my cockpit, let me see a real planet, not some blue circle construct.

I'm also not a fan of having to sit still in supercruise to use the FSS. Heck, if I've got to sit still, let me drop to normal space so I'm not interdicted while scanning, for crying out loud!

So yes, I love all these new tools, but like so many things in this game, the "classic Frontier aggravation" is...... AGGRAVATING!

That thread is over here, in case y'all would like to bump it up to 150 pages ;)

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...ery-and-Surface-Scanners-To-Work-In-ALL-Modes
 
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